User talk:Peu

Size

I notice you've been searching for "e" or something to categorize non-mediawiki wikis. You've seen this? WikiProject:By Size#How to get size information which shows how to get statistics for other engines? TedErnst | talk 11:58, 5 November 2006 (EST)

Thank you. I'm now on a logo-size-trip and thats why I'm forgetting something, I'll have a look on it again. --Peu | talk 14:46, 5 November 2006 (EST)

Using your name

Thanks, Wolf!! TedErnst | talk 11:51, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

Yes, thanks Wolf! It is important for me to have a real person attached to a real name :-) Best, MarkDilley

tour bus

can the tour bus stops also be added as an optional field in the wiki template? TedErnst | talk 09:13, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

yes it can, but should it be??? I found it greeaat tooo, but the new wiki-box is...

...(will be) now flexible enough to add new fields if needed. Lets watch TourBusStops a little... --Peu 16:51, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

The tour bus stops in teh world are finite and known. If someone's going to be adding any of them here, they might as well be in the wiki template, even if it's just for 5 or 10 sites. They don't have to appear in the template that it's unknown, right? Let's just leave the template blank if that field doesn't appear. In fact, that might be a good thing to do for the size field as well, leave the structured data box blank. I don't have a problem with a SizeUnknown field, but I don't think there's any reason to have a TourBusStop unknown. The reason to add it now is so it doesn't have to be converted later, should we decide to add it, and many sites already have a TBS listed on their page. TedErnst | talk 18:29, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

The size was for me (personally) very important for the decision to look closer at a listed wiki or not (as a former WikiIndex user, that's why I'm here, that was my starting point on WikiIndex). I find the TBS very interesting, but I noticed it today the first time; there were only a few Pages with TBS's. Let's integrate it into the Wiki-Template. Unknown sizes should be listed, it's for quality measurement (active wikis reach from 1 pages up to 2000).

Another question about TBS, what do we do if there are 2 links native and english?

finally I would hide unknown sized and unknown TBS's but I would list at least the unknown sizes in a category. --Peu 18:49, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

To answer the language question, my question back would be "how are they used?" Are their two different tour bus routes stopping that that wiki, one for each language? What do you think we should do? TedErnst | talk 01:40, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

To your question: If there are two pages they are the translation of each other, as far as I can see - sometimes a little bit differing by mistake. In my opinion we should prefer the page in the original wiki-language (if there is one) to the english version --Peu 06:38, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

What I meant was, what links to those pages? Do you know about the TourBus system? One wiki's TourBusStop links to the TourBusStop of the wiki before and after in the chain, like a web-ring. Which page is linked from other wikis? That's the one we should use. TedErnst | talk 10:22, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Oh (-maybe my inglish is too bad to understand-) the tour bus system was an impressing discovery for me, but I really don't know the system behind. In my opinion there is a (non-2D-topology-)net of bus lines, that could be used by the interested for discovering the wiki way of life. Furthermore the bus line numbers seem to be consistent, the bus line names describe the aspect the tourists can travel along. What we see in a given wiki is the only tour bus stop (sometimes translated into english if the wiki isn't an english one). This stop is connected with 1 or 2 stops for each bus line number. This is what I can grasp. --Peu 13:33, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Can you give me links to two tour bus stops on one wiki so I can check it out? see also Meatball:TourBus TedErnst | talk 13:51, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

Have a look on these listed in Category:TourBusStop on ore more of them contain(s) a link to a TBS-decription. --Peu 13:54, 22 October 2006 (EDT)

re: wiki logo

moved to User_talk:TedErnst#re_wiki_logo

Please make sure you point Mark and Ray to your new proposal. Also, if you could solve the image linking to wiki issue in another way (other than the hard link), I can see no reason not to pursue your visual wikiindex idea. Make sure Mark and Ray know about your solution to the linking problem. Thanks! TedErnst | talk 17:12, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

Thanks for your answer, I'm working on it... --Peu 17:18, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

re: time zones

moved to Category talk:Timezone

re: is it done?

I asked because I don't understand how to use the new template. Can you show it to me on a live wiki page? TedErnst | talk 18:14, 25 October 2006 (EDT)

look at Sandbox i used the WikiIndex as test Wiki one usage without any parameter set but the URL, one usage with all parameters set. --Peu | talk 18:17, 25 October 2006 (EDT)

Ah, there are no changes to the boilerplate! Excellent. So this means we don't have to change which template to use, we only have to copy Wiki/2 onto Wiki, correct? TedErnst | talk 18:37, 25 October 2006 (EDT)

This was my first intention too, now I think it would be better to copy only the contents from Wiki/2 to Wiki. So we keep the history of Wiki and leave the Wiki/2 template for further development. ("We are never done.") --Peu | talk 02:49, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

Yes, that's what I meant. Just copy/paste of the contents as an edit in the existing Wiki template history. TedErnst | talk 18:19, 26 October 2006 (EDT)

Wiki/2, Wiki/3, Wiki/4

I created a place for discussion at talk template: wiki TedErnst | talk 12:29, 30 October 2006 (EST)

re: inactive wikis

answer to thead User talk:TedErnst#inactive wikis moved to its origin, to keep talk together. --Peu | talk 14:59, 1 November 2006 (EST)

Cleaning up spam

Hey, when spammers create bogus pages, rather than blank them, delete them and put the URLs on the spam blacklist. — User:Sean Fennel@ 21:49, 8 February 2007 (PST)

Ok, I blanked them and put it on my observed pages list for faster reverting. If the the spam blacklist makes it easier, I'll do it this way. (Am I right with copying the page title to a new line in list blacklist?) --Peu | talk 01:23, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Hey, did you make me admin? --Peu | talk 01:39, 9 February 2007 (PST)

Yes, a new line. Ted made you an admin, not me. (I'm not a bureaucrat.) — User:Sean Fennel@ 22:09, 16 February 2007 (PST)

auto-patrol yourself?

Could you please set your preferences to auto-patrol your edits? thanks! TedErnst | talk 04:25, 27 February 2007 (PST)

do you mean the following?

check Add pages I create to my watchlist
check Add pages I edit to my watchlist
check Add pages I move to my watchlist
check Add pages I delete to my watchlist

I did it, ("Add pages I edit to my watchlist" was already set) --Wolf | talk 09:28, 27 February 2007 (PST)

Actually, I meant something that I cannot find in preferences anymore. Maybe they changed it with the upgrade and now it's automatic. It's fine now. :-) TedErnst | talk 13:00, 28 February 2007 (PST)

Wiki size

I saw that you downgraded my wiki size from 200+ to 100+, stating that the wiki size was 104 pages. How did you arrive at that number? I counted all the pages in my normal namespace, dropped duplicates and non-wiki-theme pages, and still came to a number in excess of 210. And that's not including the Category: namespace, where a good deal of my content lies. --Short Circuit 19:48, 15 March 2007 (PDT)

Hi, Short Circuit, I had a look at the statistics of your wiki and there was stated that there are Number pages that are probably legitimate content pages. Thats the Problem for all wikis based on the MediaWiki software. I know that there are much more content in all these wikis. You may change the size calculation rule for all MediaWiki based wikis. Describe your generalizable method here and we will change that point. best regards --Wolf | talk 01:25, 16 March 2007 (PDT)

C++

C++ doesn't work on Rosetta Code due to HTTP limitations. I understand that it should be possible to fix it with .htacces, but I was never able to get any .htaccess rules to work. Strictly speaking, the problem is with Apache. Apache assumes that + is an encoding character for the space character, so it replaces the + with a space. MediaWiki drops the trailing spaces in the requested page name, so C++ ends up pointing to C. I upgraded to 1.9.1 from 1.6, expecting the problem to go away, but it didn't. Eventually, I couldn't afford spending any more time trying to beat it into submission. I could always try upgrading to 1.9.3, but since the problem primarily lies in Apache, I don't think it would help. --Short Circuit 14:01, 16 March 2007 (PDT)

Upgrading would not work, the problem with C++ has gone already with the upgrade to 1.8.2. I'm sure now that it's not a MediaWiki issue. --Wolf | talk 03:42, 17 March 2007 (PDT)

Here's my .htaccess

RewriteEngine on

RewriteRule ^wiki/?Special:Blog$ http://blog.rosettacode.org/ [R=permanent,L]
RewriteRule ^sitemap.xml$ /rosettacode/w/sitemap.xml

# uncomment this rule if you want Apache to redirect from www.mysite.com/ to www.mysite.com/wiki/Main_Page
RewriteRule ^$ /wiki/Main_Page [R]

# do the rewrite
RewriteRule ^wiki/?(.*)$ /rosettacode/w/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]

--Short Circuit 15:15, 18 March 2007 (PDT)

Sure. Drop me an email at (mikemol) (at) (gmail.com) --207.74.29.206 14:38, 20 March 2007 (PDT)

Please, would you Wiki-Mail me instead? --Wolf | talk 14:43, 20 March 2007 (PDT) did it myself --Wolf | talk 15:08, 20 March 2007 (PDT)

SklogWiki

Hi there Peu,

I have noticed that you have changed the "wiki_pages" variable for SklogWiki. I have a question; is this variable automatically retrieved and updated? All the best, --Spud Gun 04:56, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi Spud Gun,

no, it isn't, but the size category is (SklogWiki is the first new-style size-categorized of its size class). It would be imaginable to have automatic updated page counts, but the categorization mechanism would'nt work this way. Comparing or grouping wikis by size is more important than life updates for size. WikiIndex-People update all the aspects of a indexed wiki (the wiki software provides only services like Special:Ancientpages). Regards, --Wolf | talk 17:16, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

Ok, The chaps at S23Wiki do seem to retrieve the raw stats on a daily basis (see WikiStats by S23). --Spud Gun 06:01, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Maybe we can do this sometimes on WikiIndex by a bot. --213.23.174.67 07:00, 9 July 2007 (EDT) oh, thats me --Wolf | talk 07:02, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Template:Wiki Boilerplate

Hey, your changes to the template Wiki Boilerplate broke things in the statistics part: The links to the "wikis by size" categories don't work anymore. It's because you changed wiki_size to wiki_pages. I would have fixed it already if I only had a clear idea of what you were trying to do with your change and what exactly went wrong...--Speckmade 23:56, 14 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi Speckmade, I want to make the size category names more readable and the sizes itself too, this was a suggestion by an anonymous at Talk:WikiProject:By Size#Use real size numbers. I found the technical solution to this some days ago. I tried to describe the changes in the size project page... (In the hope you are a German speaker -- it's your nick -- I can try to answer your questions better in german). Ask your more specific questions! was it that you did not found some wiki-description in the expected size category? regards, --Wolf | talk 13:14, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Did you mean this error[1]?, it's fixed now. --Wolf | talk 13:21, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Nöö... ^__^
Hab' Dir ein Beispiel: Schau mal da. Siehtst Du den nicht(mehr) funktionierenden, roten Verweis? Das passiert, wenn man wiki_pages statt wiki_size nimmt, wie es jetzt in den Kopiervorlagen steht.--Speckmade 04:13, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Habs mal korrigiert, die Vorlage (Template:Wiki Boilerplate) sollte aber eigentlich stimmen, sprich keine Angabe von Seiten ist ok.--213.23.174.67 04:21, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Sorry, das war natürlich ich --Wolf | talk 04:22, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Okay - ich glaube zu sehen, wo das Problem lag: Das neue Modell frisst andere Parameter und ich habe es mit der gewohnten alten Form versucht... "Prima!" (Der kleine Nick) :-) Danke! --Speckmade 05:08, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

keine Ursache! Was denkst du zu der Änderung (echte Seitenzahlen gegenüber den Größenkategorien mit den eigentümlichen Namen) -- also ich konnte einfach nicht widerstehen. Gruß --Wolf | talk 05:17, 24 July 2007 (EDT)