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This project aims to add size categorization to WikiIndex.  The page is where we'll develop the internal categorization scheme as well as where we'll share what we know about how to get size information from wikis running on various engines.  Please jump in and help!
{{Wiki size navigation}}
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==Categorization by Size - Reloaded==
'''WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size''' — this [[:Category:Wiki project|project]] aims to add [[:Category:Wiki Size|size]] categorization to {{tag|WikiIndex}}This page is where we will develop the internal categorization scheme, as well as where we will share what we know about how to get size information from wikis running on various [[:Category:Wiki engine|wiki engines]].  Please jump in and help!
According to the [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:WikiProject:By_Size discussion contribution of] [[User:69.87.199.67]], I think, we should establish a way for auto-categorisation of size in certain way(s):
 
* Wiki with 201 to 500 pages
==Size categories are being renamed==
According to the [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Talk:WikiProject:By_Size&diff=prev&oldid=41366 discussion contribution of] [[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|user:69.87.199.67]], I think, we should establish a way for auto-categorisation of size in certain way(s):
*Wiki with 201 to 500 pages
by typing
by typing
  wiki_size=349
  pages= 349 (in our [[Template:Size|Size template]])
in the [[Template:Size]], the date can be obtained by
in the [[template:Size]], the date can be obtained by
  <nowiki>{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}</nowiki> // ({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}) [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Time]
  <nowiki>{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}</nowiki> // ({{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}}) [https://www.MediaWiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Date_and_time]
or similar (year-month-day).
or similar (year-month-day).
Using the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions parser funcions extension] <tt>#if</tt> or <tt>#switch</tt>, size and size categorization time could be auto-categorized for maintainance. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 14:11, 21 February 2007 (PST)
Using the {{WMF-Meta|Help:Extension:ParserFunctions|parser functions}} extension <tt>#if</tt> or <tt>#switch</tt>, size and size categorization time could be auto-categorized for maintenance. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 14:11, 21 February 2007 (PST)


==Categorization scheme==
==Categorization scheme==
Now we have a new mechanism of caterorization von wikis by size. the [[Template:Size|size template]] has a new parameter <tt>wiki_pages</tt> the should be set to the page count, the wiki_size parameter is obsolete now. The size categories are moving now (i stroke moved (emptied) categories):
We now have a new mechanism of categorization of [[wiki]] sites by [[:Category:Wiki Size|size]]. The [[Template:Size|size template]] has a new field parameter <code>pages=</code> – which should be used to set the actual 'good' page count (ie, not stubs, redirects, talk pages, etc).  The original 'wiki_size' field parameter is now obsolete.
 
The size [[Special:Categories|categories]] have also moved; the original categories will initially be transformed into [[redirect]]s.  In the following list, categories that have already emptied are striked out; and once they are emptied, will be deleted (and will therefore appear as [[red link]]s if they were to be repopulated) to avoid any future misuse:
 
<s>Category:Wiki Size (old style)</s> → [[:Category:Wiki Size]]
*Wikis with unknown size — '''U'''
**<s>Category:YourWikiSize</s> → [[:Category:Unknown size]] – the wiki size was not entered yet
**[[:Category:No realtime statistics]] – 'esoteric', the wiki engine provides no real time statistics (that we can determine)
*Small wikis — '''S'''
**<s>Category:Empty</s> → [[:Category:Empty wiki]] – ie, 0 pages
**<s>Category:LessThan10</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 1 to 10 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan10</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 11 to 20 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan20</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 21 to 50 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan50</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 51 to 100 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan100</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 101 to 200 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan200</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 201 to 500 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan500</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 501 to 1,000 pages]]
*Medium wikis — '''M'''
**<s>Category:MoreThan1000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 1,001 to 2,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan2000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 2,001 to 5,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan5000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 5,001 to 10,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan10000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 10,001 to 20,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan20000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 20,001 to 50,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan50000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 50,001 to 100,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan100000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 100,001 to 200,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan200000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 200,001 to 500,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan500000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 500,001 to 1,000,000 pages]]
*Large wikis — '''L'''
**<s>Category:MoreThan1000000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 1,000,001 to 2,000,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan2000000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 2,000,001 to 5,000,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan5000000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 5,000,001 to 10,000,000 pages]]
**<s>Category:MoreThan1000000</s> → [[:Category:Wiki with 10,000,001 to 100,000,000 pages]]
**and a new top-level category — [[:Category:Wiki with more than 100,000,000 pages]]


[[:Category:Wiki Size (old style)]] &rarr; [[:Category:Wiki Size]]
===size classes===
* Wikis with unknown size '''U'''
The size classes are for better orientation against zero-blindness.
** uncategorized jet
:'''L''' — Large
** [[:Category:UnknownSize]] ''(it's well-known that the size is unknown)''
:'''M''' — Medium
** [[:Category:No realtime statistics]]
:'''S''' — Small
* Small wikis '''S'''
:'''U''' — Unknown
** ([[:Category:Empty]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{Empty}}]])
According to the following size-class-independent ordering scheme, the size classes can be changed easily.
** [[:Category:LessThan10]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{LessThan10}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan10]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan10}}]]
** [[:Category:MoreThan20]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan20}}]]
** [[:Category:MoreThan50]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan50}}]]
* Medium wikis '''M'''
** [[:Category:MoreThan100]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan100}}]]
** [[:Category:MoreThan200]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan200}}]]
** [[:Category:MoreThan500]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan500}}]]
** [[:Category:MoreThan1000]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan1000}}]]
** [[:Category:MoreThan2000]] &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan2000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan5000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan5000}}]]
* Large wikis '''L'''
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan10000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan10000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan20000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan20000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan50000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan50000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan100000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan100000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan200000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan200000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan500000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan500000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan1000000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan1000000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan2000000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan2000000}}]]
** <s>[[:Category:MoreThan5000000]]</s> &rarr; [[:Category:{{MoreThan5000000}}]]


=== "size classes" ===
===subcategory ordering scheme===
The size classes are for better orientation against zero blindness.
;category name format: "Wiki with " + ''lower_bound_page_count'' + " to " + ''upper_bound_page_count'' + " pages"
;L: Large
;M: Medium
;S: Small
;U: Unknown
According to the following size-class-independend ordering scheme the size classes can be changed easily.


=== subcategory ordering scheme ===
;category order: (digits of ''lower_bound_page_count'' -1) &times; "0" + ''letter''
;category name:   "MoreThen" + digit + n x "0"


;category order:   n x "0" + letter
;where ''letter'' depends on the most significant digit of ''lower_bound_page_count'':
* A if most this digit is 5
* B if most this digit is 2
* C if most this digit is 1


;where letter is
==[[:Category:Templates|Templates]]==
*A if digit is 5
===Size data===
*B if digit is 2
We now have [[template:Size]].  Its draft boilerplate was on its [[Template talk:Size|talk page]].  Please add it to the bottom of a couple wiki entry pages to see if it works.  We still need to figure out the categorization issues. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:22, 9 Mar 2006 (EST)
*C if digit is 1


== new template ==  
===Size navigation===
We now have [[Template:Size]]. It's draft boilerplate is on it's talk page.  Please add it to the bottom of a couple wiki entry pages to see if it works.  We still need to figure out the categorization issues. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:22, 9 Mar 2006 (EST)
For category navigation, the [[template:Wiki size navigation]] has been developed.


==How to get size information==
==How to get size information==
Most wiki engines provide statistics somewhere including a page count. Here's how to find them for various wiki engines (although it can also depend on version)
See the instructions at [[template:Size]].
#[[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]]: Replace <i>Special:Recentchanges</i> with <i>Special:Statistics</i>
:: We can also [http://s23.org/wikistats/addwiki/ add] MediaWiki listings to the http://s23.org/wikistats/mediawikis_html.php system which tracks various wiki stats
#[[:Category:MoinMoin|MoinMoin]]: Replace <i>RecentChanges</i> with <i>SystemInfo</i> or <i>System_Info</i>
#[[:Category:UseModWiki|UseModWiki]]: Replace <i>?RecentChanges</i> with <i>?action=index</i>
#[[:Category:PhpWiki|PhpWiki]]:
#[[:Category:ProWiki|ProWiki]]: Replace <i>?RecentChanges</i> with <i>?action=spx</i>
#[[:Category:PmWiki|PmWiki]]: Search for / and scroll to the bottom (maybe searching for <tt>main/</tt> would be better)
#[[:Category:Tikiwiki|Tikiwiki]]: Replace ending <i>/tiki-lastchanges.php</i> with <i>/tiki-stats.php</i>
#[[:Category:Twiki|Twiki]]: Replace <i>/WebChanges</i> with <i>/WebIndex</i>
#[[:Category:Oddmuse|Oddmuse]]: In <i>RecentChanges</i> click on <i>1 day</i> and replace <i>?action=rc;days=1;all=0;showedit=0</i> with <i>?action=index</i>
#[[:Category:Wikispaces|Wikispaces]]: replace <i>/changes</i> ending the recent changes url with <i>/pagelist</i>


[[Category:WikiProjects|Size]]
{{Category discussions}}
[[Category:Wiki Size| ]]

Latest revision as of 14:09, 11 January 2023

wiki sizes •
list of top 500
tens & hundreds
of pages
thousands & hundreds
of thousands of pages
millions & hundreds
of millions of pages
about...
('esoteric' • unknown) • empty ≤10 • 10+ • 20+ • 50+ • 100+ • 200+ • 500+ 1k+ • 2k+ • 5k+ • 10k+ • 20k+ • 50k+ • 100k+ • 200k+ • 500k+ 1M+ • 2M+ • 5M+ • 10M+ • 100M+

WikiIndex:WikiProject - By Size — this project aims to add size categorization to WikiIndex. This page is where we will develop the internal categorization scheme, as well as where we will share what we know about how to get size information from wikis running on various wiki engines. Please jump in and help!

Size categories are being renamed[edit]

According to the discussion contribution of user:69.87.199.67, I think, we should establish a way for auto-categorisation of size in certain way(s):

  • Wiki with 201 to 500 pages

by typing

pages= 349 (in our Size template)

in the template:Size, the date can be obtained by

{{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} // (20241227083626) [1]

or similar (year-month-day). Using the parser functions extension #if or #switch, size and size categorization time could be auto-categorized for maintenance. --Wolf | talk 14:11, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Categorization scheme[edit]

We now have a new mechanism of categorization of wiki sites by size. The size template has a new field parameter – pages= – which should be used to set the actual 'good' page count (ie, not stubs, redirects, talk pages, etc). The original 'wiki_size' field parameter is now obsolete.

The size categories have also moved; the original categories will initially be transformed into redirects. In the following list, categories that have already emptied are striked out; and once they are emptied, will be deleted (and will therefore appear as red links if they were to be repopulated) to avoid any future misuse:

Category:Wiki Size (old style)Category:Wiki Size

size classes[edit]

The size classes are for better orientation against zero-blindness.

L — Large
M — Medium
S — Small
U — Unknown

According to the following size-class-independent ordering scheme, the size classes can be changed easily.

subcategory ordering scheme[edit]

category name format
"Wiki with " + lower_bound_page_count + " to " + upper_bound_page_count + " pages"
category order
(digits of lower_bound_page_count -1) × "0" + letter
where letter depends on the most significant digit of lower_bound_page_count
  • A if most this digit is 5
  • B if most this digit is 2
  • C if most this digit is 1

Templates[edit]

Size data[edit]

We now have template:Size. Its draft boilerplate was on its talk page. Please add it to the bottom of a couple wiki entry pages to see if it works. We still need to figure out the categorization issues. TedErnst | talk 12:22, 9 Mar 2006 (EST)

Size navigation[edit]

For category navigation, the template:Wiki size navigation has been developed.

How to get size information[edit]

See the instructions at template:Size.

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