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== possible edit code ==
{{TOC right}}
I found it confusing how to edit the box, since there's no edit link there.  This code puts an edit link in the box, as long as the pagename is the same as the wikiname.  There's probably a better way to do it, but it works.
==Removal of 2 fields and more==
<nowiki><small class="editlink noprint plainlinksneverexpand">[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:{{{wiki_name}}}|action=edit}} edit this box]</small></nowiki> 
* The [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|"Edit Mode"]] field is nice information to have, but I think difficult for the average [[user]] to figure out and enter.  Therefore it may be a barrier to people who might otherwise enter or [[edit]] our [[:Category:All|wiki pages]].  I believe that the cost outweighs the benefit and therefore this field should be removed in the interest of simplicity.
I tried it with [[User talk:TedErnst/templatetest]] as the template and [[User talk:TedErnst/articlewithtemplatetest]] as the article. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 16:23, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
* By the same toke, I believe that the "Last Reviewed" date is unnecessary.  It forces us to think about what a "Review" is, i.e. if you change anything on the record it has been reviewed?  It is also a pain to update and redundant with the [[WhatIsWiki|wikis]] existing functionality of keeping [[edit history]].  So I recommend its removal.
 
* If we decide to do this it seems that it would be best to simply edit the "Wiki List" template.  Alternatively, we could make a new [[:Category:Infobox template|template]], but I'm afraid that will cause more confusion.
:huh? [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
* Also, we should probably add [[:Category:Wikis with a WikiNode|"WikiNode"]] to this template and not create a separate template for that
 
* Also, I don't think the "[[WikiTourBus]]" is significant enough to put on the template.  Using [[WikiIndex]], the tourbus isn't really that necessary?
I mucked it up and can't seem to fix it.  The point is that there is no edit link inside the wiki info box on each wiki page (inside the box created by the Wiki List template).  So I tried to code it so there would be an edit link there.  And the code above seemed to work as long as we're VERY careful with naming the page and the wiki exactly the same.  Then I was trying to make it use the actual page name but it got all messed up. It's going to take a real techie.  And maybe no one else cares.  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 00:57, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)
 
 
:This would be something that [[John Staton]] could do, if we thought it was worth doing.  I am unsure if it is.  I like the crispness of the box... [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
 
I hate that there's an edit link next to the box (referring to the section about the wiki) that doesn't edit the box!  It's not a high priority for me, however.  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 13:52, 21 Jan 2006 (EST)
 
== Removal of 2 fields and more ==
* The "Edit Mode" field is nice information to have, but I think difficult for the average user to figure out and enter.  Therefore it may be a barrier to people who might otherwise enter or edit our wiki pages.  I believe that the cost outweighs the benefit and therefore this field should be removed in the interest of simplicity.
* By the same toke, I believe that the "Last Reviewed" date is unnecessary.  It forces us to think about what a "Review" is, i.e. if you change anything on the record it has been reviewed?  It is also a pain to update and redundant with the wikis existing functionality of keeping edit history.  So I recommend its removal.
* If we decide to do this it seems that it would be best to simply edit the "Wiki List" template.  Alternatively, we could make a new template, but I'm afraid that will cause more confusion.
* Also, we should probably add "WikiNode" to this template and not create a separate template for that
* Also, I don't think the "WikiTourBus" is significant enough to put on the template.  Using WikiIndex, the tourbus isn't really that necessary?
 
Thoughts? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 22:02, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
Thoughts? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 22:02, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)


: Any interest in pulling together a meeting for discussing the many site issues that folks have brought up?  A happening perhaps? ![[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
: Any interest in pulling together a meeting for discussing the many site issues that folks have brought up?  A happening perhaps? ![[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
* The [[EditMode]] is an important look at wiki, can we discribe it or label it differently?
* The [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|Edit Mode]] is an important look at [[wiki]], can we discribe it or label it differently?
* I could go for losing the Last Reviewed date.
* I could go for losing the Last Reviewed date.
* Adding [[WikiNode]] to the ~100 [[vibrant]] wiki to test the idea.  But am open to the idea of starting it now.
* Adding [[WikiNode]] to the ~100 [[:Category:Vibrant|vibrant]] wiki to test the idea.  But am open to the idea of starting it now.
* I wasn't aware of anyone advocating for TourBusStop on the template (a TourBusStop for WikiIndex, yes!)
* I wasn't aware of anyone advocating for TourBusStop on the template (a TourBusStop for WikiIndex, yes!)
* Can there be consideration of losing the Topic category?  adding it into the description?
* Can there be consideration of losing the Topic category?  adding it into the description?
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'''Conclusions so far'''
# Remove date of last edit (done)
# Add Wiki Node (done)
# Create new template "[[Template:Wiki]]" (done)
# Widdle down the number of edit modes from 16 to a goal of 4 (in process) '''conversation moved''' to [[Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#16 .28now 14.29 down to 4 process]]


[[category: browse]]
==Additional categories==
 
[[File:AdditionalCategories.png|right|frame|[[Wikinsider]] unsightly 'Additional Categories']]
== Additional Categories ==
Since we are talking about changing things right now, I am reasserting that we have a meeting of minds.  We did that the other night with Ray's agenda, but I would like to call for an open agenda, mostly because I have things to discuss as well, specifically the '''Additional Categories''' space.  I feel it is redundant, and I was trying to deal with that issue by placing a footer above the "natural" media wiki category strip at the bottom. Here is an example of what I am talking about, from [[Wikinsider]].
 
Since we are talking about changing things right now, I am reasserting that we have a meeting of minds.  We did that the other night with Ray's agenda, but I would like to call for an open agenda, mostly because I have things to discuss as well, specifically the '''Additional Categories''' space.  I feel it is redundant, and I was trying to deal with that issue by placing a footer above the "natural" media wiki category strip at the bottom. Here is an example of what I am talking about, from http://wikiindex.com/Wikinsider:
 
[[Image:AdditionalCategories.png]]


For me, it stikes a redundant cord.  Anyway, I would like us to have a "happeing" or something like that.  It is great that we moved on many issues over the last few days, would like to try to tackle or come up with a plan for others ideas too! :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
For me, it stikes a redundant cord.  Anyway, I would like us to have a "happeing" or something like that.  It is great that we moved on many issues over the last few days, would like to try to tackle or come up with a plan for others ideas too! :-)  Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
:I'm happy to [[WikiIndex:Happening]]. :-)  I still feel that there's no reason to have the [[Special:Categories|categories]] show up in the text.  I'd rather use the [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] category feature as written instead of using the {{Template|tag}} or [[:Category:Category templates|category templates]] we created to display those categories in the text of the page. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:40, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Let's take this conversation to [[WikiIndex talk:How do categories work]], okay? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:01, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)


: I'm happy to happening. :-)  I still feel that there's no reason to have the categories show up in the text.  I'd rather use the wikimedia category feature as written instead of using the tag or category templates we created to display those categories in the text of the page. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:40, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
[[Category:Orphaned talk page]]

Latest revision as of 23:34, 28 May 2023

Removal of 2 fields and more[edit]

  • The "Edit Mode" field is nice information to have, but I think difficult for the average user to figure out and enter. Therefore it may be a barrier to people who might otherwise enter or edit our wiki pages. I believe that the cost outweighs the benefit and therefore this field should be removed in the interest of simplicity.
  • By the same toke, I believe that the "Last Reviewed" date is unnecessary. It forces us to think about what a "Review" is, i.e. if you change anything on the record it has been reviewed? It is also a pain to update and redundant with the wikis existing functionality of keeping edit history. So I recommend its removal.
  • If we decide to do this it seems that it would be best to simply edit the "Wiki List" template. Alternatively, we could make a new template, but I'm afraid that will cause more confusion.
  • Also, we should probably add "WikiNode" to this template and not create a separate template for that
  • Also, I don't think the "WikiTourBus" is significant enough to put on the template. Using WikiIndex, the tourbus isn't really that necessary?

Thoughts? --Raymond King | talk 22:02, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)

Any interest in pulling together a meeting for discussing the many site issues that folks have brought up? A happening perhaps? !MarkDilley | talk
  • The Edit Mode is an important look at wiki, can we discribe it or label it differently?
  • I could go for losing the Last Reviewed date.
  • Adding WikiNode to the ~100 vibrant wiki to test the idea. But am open to the idea of starting it now.
  • I wasn't aware of anyone advocating for TourBusStop on the template (a TourBusStop for WikiIndex, yes!)
  • Can there be consideration of losing the Topic category? adding it into the description?

Conclusions so far

  1. Remove date of last edit (done)
  2. Add Wiki Node (done)
  3. Create new template "Template:Wiki" (done)
  4. Widdle down the number of edit modes from 16 to a goal of 4 (in process) conversation moved to Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#16 .28now 14.29 down to 4 process

Additional categories[edit]

Wikinsider unsightly 'Additional Categories'

Since we are talking about changing things right now, I am reasserting that we have a meeting of minds. We did that the other night with Ray's agenda, but I would like to call for an open agenda, mostly because I have things to discuss as well, specifically the Additional Categories space. I feel it is redundant, and I was trying to deal with that issue by placing a footer above the "natural" media wiki category strip at the bottom. Here is an example of what I am talking about, from Wikinsider.

For me, it stikes a redundant cord. Anyway, I would like us to have a "happeing" or something like that. It is great that we moved on many issues over the last few days, would like to try to tackle or come up with a plan for others ideas too! :-) Best, MarkDilley | talk

I'm happy to WikiIndex:Happening. :-) I still feel that there's no reason to have the categories show up in the text. I'd rather use the Wikimedia category feature as written instead of using the {{tag}} or category templates we created to display those categories in the text of the page. TedErnst | talk 17:40, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
Let's take this conversation to WikiIndex talk:How do categories work, okay? TedErnst | talk 15:01, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)