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Hello and [[welcome]] back to [[WikiIndex]]!  Looks like you know your way around the place. Great!  Let me know if you have any ideas or questions about this wiki.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
Hello and [[welcome]] back to [[WikiIndex]]!  Looks like you know your way around the place. Great!  Let me know if you have any ideas or questions about this wiki.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:Nice to hear some words from real humans...
:Nice to hear some words from real humans... Thanks for the offer - I'll remember it! --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 17:12, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
:Thanks for the offer - I'll remember it!--[[User:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 17:12, 23 May 2007 (EDT)


Welcome to WikiIndex.
Welcome to WikiIndex. I see you've made many good edits already. I hope you enjoy contributing to and exploring the WikiIndex. (I agree that [[OneBuckWiki]] doesn't look like a wiki.) --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:49, 22 November 2007 (EST)
I see you've made many good edits already.
:Question about OneBuckWiki (and similar websites) at [[:Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#Pay to edit.3F]] --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:40, 17 December 2007 (EST)
I hope you enjoy contributing to and exploring the WikiIndex.
(I agree that [[OneBuckWiki]] doesn't look like a wiki.)
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:49, 22 November 2007 (EST)


Question about OneBuckWiki (and similar websites) at [[:Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#PayToEdit.3F]] --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:40, 17 December 2007 (EST)
==Curious==
I like the tags and am wondering why you are removing all of them?
: I do not simply remove all of them. Those tags are there to categorise pages - and if a page is already categorised more precisely in a subcategory I remove them from the main category. I think it's more clear and logical this way. (Curious: Does this make sense to you?) --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 09:53, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
 
==Wiki license parameter==
Hi Speckmade. I reverted your changes to the {{Template|Wiki}} template. For some reason, it was breaking the infobox in some articles, but not in others. I left a note about it on the talk page of the template. I like the idea, though. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 18:40, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
:I added a note about removing the "Wiki" from the license name in the Wiki license category notes. That was the primary reason why I edited the boilerplate template. It seemed a little counter-intuitive that the category name did not match the text you have to put in the infobox (I was confused by it intially), so I wanted to try to help other people by spelling it out. Hopefully, the note will serve that purpose. However, if you have a better way of doing it, please do. Thanks, [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:03, 4 December 2008 (EST)
:: :-D - ...and I thought, that I eased things with the template adding the prefix "<code>Wiki </code>" automatically...
:: Yeah, nice to clarify this there. - But: I wouldn't get it from this "sentence" you added [https://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category:Wiki_YourWiki%27sLicense&diff=prev&oldid=60668 there] - did you maybe mess up the sentence? --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 07:59, 6 December 2008 (EST)
:::Yep, I sure did. I meant "if", not "in". Thanks for catching that. Naturally, feel free to change it if it's still unclear, despite my fix. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 22:26, 8 December 2008 (EST)
 
==Overcategorization==
Hi Speckmade. Thanks for creating all of those categories! However, it seems to me that we ought to consolidate some of them. For example, do we really need the three categories [[:Category:Blog|blog]], [[:Category:Blogs|blogs]], and [[:Category:Blogging|blogging]]? What's the difference between them? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:50, 4 December 2008 (EST)
:Yesyesyes, please do it! ''I'' didn't create those categories - I just categorized them because it just was the easier solution for the moment; for me the chaos was too big to get everything fixed in one go. So: Yes, I also see the problem you mention - and there are many more cases like this one. One may argue though that for example blogging is a more general thing than just blogs... --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 18:17, 14 December 2008 (EST)
::''I think of it as a Tagsonomy - where those categories might be tagged with their peer cateogories.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:::Heh. Tagsonomy. Alternatively, if there are no differences between them but we don't want to eliminate them, should the appropriate wikis be in all three categories? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 22:20, 8 December 2008 (EST)
::::Oh no! That would just look confusing with no practical use I can see. --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 18:20, 14 December 2008 (EST)
 
==Two questions==
I am concerned that the edit to the list on the front of [[Welcome|WikiIndex]] is going to slow down people adding links to it - I do like the focus for adding wikis being highlighted, I wonder if highlighting the one click create button would be good?


== Curious ==
Secondly, I am interested in exploring a two column solution for topics and new wiki showing up 
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What do you think?
:I'm not into it... --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 15:08, 4 February 2009 (EST)
::Do you still feel that way? Best, [[MarkDilley]]


I like the tags and am wondering why you are removing all of them?
==Wiki language==
: I do not simply remove all of them.
Hi Speckmade. I don't object to the changes you made to the ''<nowiki>{{Wiki}}</nowiki>'' template. However, I wanted to point out that as a result of some of your changes there are now several miscategorized wikis. For example, in the repurposing of [[:Category:English]] to be used for wikis ''about'' the English language rather than ''in'' the English language, those wikis which are multilingual and include English as one of those languages have not been transitioned to [[:Category:Wiki English]]. Also, many of the less-represented languages do not have a corresponding "Wiki [Language]" category, which means that most of the non-English versions of Wikipedia now have a red link in the language field where once they had a blue link. I'll endeavor to fix this. Maybe you could fix some of the multilingual wikis? Thanks, [[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:55, 6 March 2009 (EST)
: Those tags are there to categorise pages - and if a page is already categorised more precisely in a subcategory I remove them from the main category. I think it's more clear and logical this way.
:I see that you already fixed the more well-known languages. This is something I hadn't noticed when I posted my last message. Thanks for doing that. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:03, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
: (Curious: Does this make sense to you?)--[[User:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 09:53, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
::I am glad you are improving the categories here at WikiIndex. Would you mind commenting on a proposed "improvement" to the category system at [[Category talk:Wiki language]]? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:32, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
 
==Non-free wiki licenses==
Hi Speckmade. How should we categorize wikis which are copyrighted? For example, all [[Neoseeker]] wikis are "Copyright Neo Era Media Inc." It seems like we ought to let potential contributors know that their work will become the property of the site. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:14, 13 March 2009 (EDT)
:True...  Dunno - maybe mark them as "proprietary" or something? Explaining stuff on the corresponding category page? --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 23:03, 13 March 2009 (EDT)
::Proprietary sounds good. And an explanation on the category page is even better. :-) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:24, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
:::I see that when people add their wiki to the Wikiindex by going to the [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki]] page and hitting the "Create a new wiki page" button, it now automatically creates a default boilerplate with a "Wiki license" line. Is the appropriate thing to do with such "Non-free wiki" is to edit that line in that wiki's Wikiindex page to "Site retains copyright", placing that wiki in the [[:Category:Wiki Site retains copyright]]? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 22:43, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
::::I made that last category up after discussing it with... someone. Mark Dilley, perhaps? Feel free to change the name (or the paradigm) if you think it needs improvement. :-) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:24, 29 May 2009 (EDT)
 
==dead vs inactive==
Have you seen the "dead vs inactive" discussion at [[Category talk:Wiki status#dead vs inactive]]?  In particular, you switched the WikiIndex page on [[WhoIsBehind.org]] to use the "wiki dead" template. Then I switched it to the "inactive" template -- am I making a big mistake? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 09:52, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
 
==Unblock request==
Hello. [[User:Proxima Centauri]] blocked me for [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=RationalWiki&diff=69045&oldid=69043 this] and she locked the article afterwards. Her main problem seems to be that I have removed her advertising of her own wiki, [[Liberapedia]], but she also removed factual corrections and other improvements. She also gave me no justification except that removing content is a blockable offense, which is frankly absurd. Look at the article in its current state: First it says the site went down on Aug 22, then it says Aug 20 (neither of which is correct), then it says it will be down for two weeks, then it says "we" don't know how long it will be down. Can you help me please? Thank you [[User:Nx]] 17:34, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:Come on, please. There's nothing wrong with undoing the craziness of another admin. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 03:48, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
::Come on, for the love of goat! [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 04:21, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
 
==[[Interwiki]] link==
Hi - I want to add [[Interwiki]] prefix to the main {{Template|Wiki}} template, in a way that if it isn't there, it doesn't show - much like [[WikiNode]].  Is that something you could do, I looked at it and got lost.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:He - sorry for the delayed answer. I'll look into it. Probably I'm able to do it. --[[User talk:Speckmade|Speckmade]] 20:21, 26 January 2010 (EST)
 
==ProjetWikira==
Question at [[Talk:ProjetWikira]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 11:42, 11 December 2011 (PST)
 
[[Category:Orphaned talk page]]
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Latest revision as of 08:53, 20 July 2023

Hello and welcome back to WikiIndex! Looks like you know your way around the place. Great! Let me know if you have any ideas or questions about this wiki. Best, MarkDilley

Nice to hear some words from real humans... Thanks for the offer - I'll remember it! --Speckmade 17:12, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Welcome to WikiIndex. I see you've made many good edits already. I hope you enjoy contributing to and exploring the WikiIndex. (I agree that OneBuckWiki doesn't look like a wiki.) --DavidCary 01:49, 22 November 2007 (EST)

Question about OneBuckWiki (and similar websites) at Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#Pay to edit.3F --EarthFurst 16:40, 17 December 2007 (EST)

Curious[edit]

I like the tags and am wondering why you are removing all of them?

I do not simply remove all of them. Those tags are there to categorise pages - and if a page is already categorised more precisely in a subcategory I remove them from the main category. I think it's more clear and logical this way. (Curious: Does this make sense to you?) --Speckmade 09:53, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

Wiki license parameter[edit]

Hi Speckmade. I reverted your changes to the {{Wiki}} template. For some reason, it was breaking the infobox in some articles, but not in others. I left a note about it on the talk page of the template. I like the idea, though. --MarvelZuvembie 18:40, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

I added a note about removing the "Wiki" from the license name in the Wiki license category notes. That was the primary reason why I edited the boilerplate template. It seemed a little counter-intuitive that the category name did not match the text you have to put in the infobox (I was confused by it intially), so I wanted to try to help other people by spelling it out. Hopefully, the note will serve that purpose. However, if you have a better way of doing it, please do. Thanks, MarvelZuvembie 16:03, 4 December 2008 (EST)
:-D - ...and I thought, that I eased things with the template adding the prefix "Wiki " automatically...
Yeah, nice to clarify this there. - But: I wouldn't get it from this "sentence" you added there - did you maybe mess up the sentence? --Speckmade 07:59, 6 December 2008 (EST)
Yep, I sure did. I meant "if", not "in". Thanks for catching that. Naturally, feel free to change it if it's still unclear, despite my fix. --MarvelZuvembie 22:26, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Overcategorization[edit]

Hi Speckmade. Thanks for creating all of those categories! However, it seems to me that we ought to consolidate some of them. For example, do we really need the three categories blog, blogs, and blogging? What's the difference between them? --MarvelZuvembie 14:50, 4 December 2008 (EST)

Yesyesyes, please do it! I didn't create those categories - I just categorized them because it just was the easier solution for the moment; for me the chaos was too big to get everything fixed in one go. So: Yes, I also see the problem you mention - and there are many more cases like this one. One may argue though that for example blogging is a more general thing than just blogs... --Speckmade 18:17, 14 December 2008 (EST)
I think of it as a Tagsonomy - where those categories might be tagged with their peer cateogories. ~~ MarkDilley
Heh. Tagsonomy. Alternatively, if there are no differences between them but we don't want to eliminate them, should the appropriate wikis be in all three categories? --MarvelZuvembie 22:20, 8 December 2008 (EST)
Oh no! That would just look confusing with no practical use I can see. --Speckmade 18:20, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Two questions[edit]

I am concerned that the edit to the list on the front of WikiIndex is going to slow down people adding links to it - I do like the focus for adding wikis being highlighted, I wonder if highlighting the one click create button would be good?

Secondly, I am interested in exploring a two column solution for topics and new wiki showing up

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What do you think?

I'm not into it... --Speckmade 15:08, 4 February 2009 (EST)
Do you still feel that way? Best, MarkDilley

Wiki language[edit]

Hi Speckmade. I don't object to the changes you made to the {{Wiki}} template. However, I wanted to point out that as a result of some of your changes there are now several miscategorized wikis. For example, in the repurposing of Category:English to be used for wikis about the English language rather than in the English language, those wikis which are multilingual and include English as one of those languages have not been transitioned to Category:Wiki English. Also, many of the less-represented languages do not have a corresponding "Wiki [Language]" category, which means that most of the non-English versions of Wikipedia now have a red link in the language field where once they had a blue link. I'll endeavor to fix this. Maybe you could fix some of the multilingual wikis? Thanks, MarvelZuvembie 19:55, 6 March 2009 (EST)

I see that you already fixed the more well-known languages. This is something I hadn't noticed when I posted my last message. Thanks for doing that. --MarvelZuvembie 17:03, 12 March 2009 (EDT)
I am glad you are improving the categories here at WikiIndex. Would you mind commenting on a proposed "improvement" to the category system at Category talk:Wiki language? --DavidCary 01:32, 17 March 2009 (EDT)

Non-free wiki licenses[edit]

Hi Speckmade. How should we categorize wikis which are copyrighted? For example, all Neoseeker wikis are "Copyright Neo Era Media Inc." It seems like we ought to let potential contributors know that their work will become the property of the site. --MarvelZuvembie 16:14, 13 March 2009 (EDT)

True... Dunno - maybe mark them as "proprietary" or something? Explaining stuff on the corresponding category page? --Speckmade 23:03, 13 March 2009 (EDT)
Proprietary sounds good. And an explanation on the category page is even better. :-) --MarvelZuvembie 20:24, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
I see that when people add their wiki to the Wikiindex by going to the WikiIndex:Add a Wiki page and hitting the "Create a new wiki page" button, it now automatically creates a default boilerplate with a "Wiki license" line. Is the appropriate thing to do with such "Non-free wiki" is to edit that line in that wiki's Wikiindex page to "Site retains copyright", placing that wiki in the Category:Wiki Site retains copyright? --DavidCary 22:43, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
I made that last category up after discussing it with... someone. Mark Dilley, perhaps? Feel free to change the name (or the paradigm) if you think it needs improvement. :-) --MarvelZuvembie 15:24, 29 May 2009 (EDT)

dead vs inactive[edit]

Have you seen the "dead vs inactive" discussion at Category talk:Wiki status#dead vs inactive? In particular, you switched the WikiIndex page on WhoIsBehind.org to use the "wiki dead" template. Then I switched it to the "inactive" template -- am I making a big mistake? --DavidCary 09:52, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

Unblock request[edit]

Hello. User:Proxima Centauri blocked me for this and she locked the article afterwards. Her main problem seems to be that I have removed her advertising of her own wiki, Liberapedia, but she also removed factual corrections and other improvements. She also gave me no justification except that removing content is a blockable offense, which is frankly absurd. Look at the article in its current state: First it says the site went down on Aug 22, then it says Aug 20 (neither of which is correct), then it says it will be down for two weeks, then it says "we" don't know how long it will be down. Can you help me please? Thank you User:Nx 17:34, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Come on, please. There's nothing wrong with undoing the craziness of another admin. Phantom Hoover 03:48, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
Come on, for the love of goat! Phantom Hoover 04:21, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

Interwiki link[edit]

Hi - I want to add Interwiki prefix to the main {{Wiki}} template, in a way that if it isn't there, it doesn't show - much like WikiNode. Is that something you could do, I looked at it and got lost. Best, MarkDilley

He - sorry for the delayed answer. I'll look into it. Probably I'm able to do it. --Speckmade 20:21, 26 January 2010 (EST)

ProjetWikira[edit]

Question at Talk:ProjetWikira. --EarthFurst 11:42, 11 December 2011 (PST)