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Their "filter" sucks. Blocked me and told me to not use Norton. I'm on Linux. --[[User:91.145.73.38|91.145.73.38]] 08:16, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
Their "filter" sucks. Blocked me and told me to not use Norton. I'm on Linux. --[[Special:Contributions/91.145.73.38|91.145.73.38]] 08:16, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
:Who are you, and what filter? [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 08:42, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
:Who are you, and what filter? [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 08:42, 29 August 2009 (EDT)


::I'm random. When I try to visit their site they give me a 403 with a link telling me I was detected as malicious. It might be because I have a forged user agent, aka the source of all evil? fyi, below is what my request to them looks like  
::I'm random. When I try to visit their site they give me a 403 with a link telling me I was detected as malicious. It might be because I have a forged user agent, aka the source of all evil? fyi, below is what my request to them looks like
 
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GET / HTTP/1.1
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Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Connection: keep-alive</pre>
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--[[Special:Contributions/91.145.89.86|91.145.89.86]] 10:23, 29 August 2009 (EDT)


--[[User:91.145.89.86|91.145.89.86]] 10:23, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
Yeah, it was because of the user-agent. I guess it was retarded to have it begin with 'user-agent:'. --[[Special:Contributions/91.145.89.86|91.145.89.86]] 10:25, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
 
Yeah, it was because of the user-agent. I guess it was retarded to have it begin with 'user-agent:'. --[[User:91.145.89.86|91.145.89.86]] 10:25, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it has a spam filter which is designed to stop, well, spammers. I guess if you present it with something which looks spammer-like then nit blocks you. Did you get round it?--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 15:59, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
:Yes it has a spam filter which is designed to stop, well, spammers. I guess if you present it with something which looks spammer-like then nit blocks you. Did you get round it?--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 15:59, 5 September 2009 (EDT)


==Wiki factor==
==[[WikiFactor]]==
 
Why wiki-factor 2?--[[Special:Contributions/83.42.114.146|83.42.114.146]] 09:37, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
Why wiki-factor 2?--[[Special:Contributions/83.42.114.146|83.42.114.146]] 09:37, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
:Unless anybody objects I'll put it back to factor 5.--[[Special:Contributions/83.42.114.146|83.42.114.146]] 10:37, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
:Unless anybody objects I'll put it back to factor 5.--[[Special:Contributions/83.42.114.146|83.42.114.146]] 10:37, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
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::::::You seem to be fixated on the number "12".  That number is simply the one used in the example - it has no other significance to the calculation.
::::::You seem to be fixated on the number "12".  That number is simply the one used in the example - it has no other significance to the calculation.
::::::I am the same user as the other IP's and my IP is dynamic - it constantly changes.  Is there a rule against IP editors posting here?--[[Special:Contributions/81.39.126.55|81.39.126.55]] 08:37, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
::::::I am the same user as the other IP's and my IP is dynamic - it constantly changes.  Is there a rule against IP editors posting here?--[[Special:Contributions/81.39.126.55|81.39.126.55]] 08:37, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
:::::::As our esteemed leader (Mark) has replied, IP editing is fine here.  <u>However</u>, if you do have a dynamic IP, and you keep on editing the same article which has a <cough>disagreement</cough>, then that changing identity ''may'' raise suspicions - which is why it is preferable to register with a username. :)<br>And my fixation for 12 is based purely on the help given in the size template - maybe I'm being thick, but I still can not definitavly <sp?> get my head around [[WikiFactor]] :(  Kind regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 04:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::I am the same person as the other IP's.
:::::::::I'll try again on the calculation.  If a wiki has 1,000 or more views views on its first page less than 2,000 on its second then it has a wiki factor of one.  If it has 2,000 or more views on it's second page but less than 3,000 on its third page then it has a wiki factor of two.  If it has more than 3,000 views on its third page but less than 4,000 on its fourth page page then it has a wiki factor of three. And so on.
:::::::::In the example given the wiki has more then 12,000 views on its twelfth page but less than 13,000 in its thirteenth. The number "12" refers to that example and only to that example.
:::::::::I honestly can't think of a simpler way of explaining it.--[[Special:Contributions/83.42.114.79|83.42.114.79]] 06:26, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
Anonymous editing is fine here.  [[WikiFactor]] is a wee bit confusing till you get your head wrapped around it. :-) Thanks to the both of you for working productively to figure stuff out here.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

Latest revision as of 00:57, 4 June 2023

Their "filter" sucks. Blocked me and told me to not use Norton. I'm on Linux. --91.145.73.38 08:16, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

Who are you, and what filter? Phantom Hoover 08:42, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
I'm random. When I try to visit their site they give me a 403 with a link telling me I was detected as malicious. It might be because I have a forged user agent, aka the source of all evil? fyi, below is what my request to them looks like
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: teflpedia.com
User-Agent: user-agent: Epiphany (SymbianOS/9.4; Series60/5.0 NokiaN97-1/10.0.012; Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1; en-us)
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive

--91.145.89.86 10:23, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, it was because of the user-agent. I guess it was retarded to have it begin with 'user-agent:'. --91.145.89.86 10:25, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

Yes it has a spam filter which is designed to stop, well, spammers. I guess if you present it with something which looks spammer-like then nit blocks you. Did you get round it?--Bob M 15:59, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

WikiFactor[edit]

Why wiki-factor 2?--83.42.114.146 09:37, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

Unless anybody objects I'll put it back to factor 5.--83.42.114.146 10:37, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
5 is the correct wikifactor. Elassint, 09 26 2011
Huh - the popular pages link for page 12 ranking clearly lists "2,887 views" - therefore the wF should be 2 not 5. Or have I missed something (I personally don't think the explanation on Category:WikiFactor or Template:Size is very clear though - as how can a page lower in the rankings have a 'higher' page view????) !!! Needs more discussion on either the of the category talk page or preferably the template talk page. Rgds, Hoof Hearted 03:28, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
The example given for calculating a wikifactor is:
  • For example, the wikiFactor of WikiIndex is 12, i.e., page 12 in the list has had more than 12,000 visits, whereas page 13 has not yet reached 13,000 visits.
The corresponding line for Teflpedia is: "5 Business conversation questions ‎(6,019 views)". Or to out it another way:
  • For example, the wikiFactor of Teflpedia is 5, i.e., page 5 in the list has had more than 6,000 visits, whereas page 6 has not yet reached 6,000 visits.
Therefore wikifactor five. It does not seem complicated. I do not understand your comment above. What calculation method are you using?--83.60.54.0 03:45, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
Read HERE - there is very obvious 'confusion'. In MediaWiki, 'PopularPages' produces a ranking table - the article with the highest views is position '1' - the logic seems to centre around position 12, but the text seems to indicate that ranking '13' can have more page views than position 12 . . . . And your above examples do NOT match the example given on the template page! Oh, and if the the IP editor 83.60.54.0 is the same as IP editor 83.42.114.146, you really ought to register here with a username (otherwise you might get accused of sockpuppetry - but my apologies if you are two different people!) Hoof Hearted 03:59, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
You seem to be fixated on the number "12". That number is simply the one used in the example - it has no other significance to the calculation.
I am the same user as the other IP's and my IP is dynamic - it constantly changes. Is there a rule against IP editors posting here?--81.39.126.55 08:37, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
As our esteemed leader (Mark) has replied, IP editing is fine here. However, if you do have a dynamic IP, and you keep on editing the same article which has a <cough>disagreement</cough>, then that changing identity may raise suspicions - which is why it is preferable to register with a username. :)
And my fixation for 12 is based purely on the help given in the size template - maybe I'm being thick, but I still can not definitavly <sp?> get my head around WikiFactor :( Kind regards, Hoof Hearted 04:38, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
I am the same person as the other IP's.
I'll try again on the calculation. If a wiki has 1,000 or more views views on its first page less than 2,000 on its second then it has a wiki factor of one. If it has 2,000 or more views on it's second page but less than 3,000 on its third page then it has a wiki factor of two. If it has more than 3,000 views on its third page but less than 4,000 on its fourth page page then it has a wiki factor of three. And so on.
In the example given the wiki has more then 12,000 views on its twelfth page but less than 13,000 in its thirteenth. The number "12" refers to that example and only to that example.
I honestly can't think of a simpler way of explaining it.--83.42.114.79 06:26, 27 September 2011 (PDT)

Anonymous editing is fine here. WikiFactor is a wee bit confusing till you get your head wrapped around it. :-) Thanks to the both of you for working productively to figure stuff out here. Best, MarkDilley