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ByInvitation and ReadOnly

Do these really need to be seperate? If sysops can edit ReadOnly wikis, aren't those also ByInvitation, by definition? TedErnst | talk 11:34, 7 Mar 2006 (EST)

I think there is a very big difference between

• (a) a wiki where any random person can "register" with a user name and within minutes, without any human approval, immediately start to edit -- that's what LoginToEdit means, right ? -- vs.
• (b) a wiki where any random person can "register" with a user name, and after some human approves it (perhaps within a day or so), can start to edit, -- vs.
• (c) a wiki where only the Sysop and perhaps a few people the Sysop has selected ahead of time can edit, one that does not give any email address or other way for outsiders to register.

The word "invitation" in "ByInvitation" implies (c). Type (c) and ReadOnly wiki are effectively the same, to outsiders like me. What do I use to tag type (b) wiki? I would like a better name for type (b) wiki. RegisterToEdit, HumanApprovedApplicationToEdit, ... surely there's a better name? --DavidCary 22:55, 8 December 2006 (EST)

no, when for example the database is locked at a MediaWiki wiki, I don't think sysops can edit it. (I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong) so when it's ReadOnly, no one can edit it (I think), but ByInvitation it's editable by eveyone, who been invited. (gee I'm not good at explaining stuff.) – Smiddle / T·C·@ 04:53, 9 December 2006 (EST)

We discussed all of this a long time ago, and if we didn't document well our thinking at the time, I suppose we're left with David's questions. :-) Let me see if I can describe how I see things. At first, we had many different categories the we eventually collapsed down to ByInvitation. Definitely (a) above means LoginToEdit. I'm almost certain that type (c) would be ReadOnly for us, because there's no way to know who's allowed to edit when you come upon a wiki like this. All you can see is that there's no way to edit, no way to login and no way to register or apply for a login. So that's how we've been using ReadOnly. Smiddle's "lockdown" scenario isn't specifically addressed, but that would be ReadOnly as well. We're currently using ByInvitation to mean any wiki where you have to register by some publically available means, and a human has to approve you. If that needs some other name, feel free to propose one. That would be fine with me, if ByInvitation isn't cutting it. We discussed it for a long time, but I see no reason to change if there's a term that's more clear. TedErnst | talk 14:51, 9 December 2006 (EST)