User talk:MarkDilley

People's "talk" pages alert them to messages. Their user pages don't. Best wishes! robinp 00:46, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

Thank you for the tip Robin! - Need to write something up about that function. TalkPagesForWikiPeople - best, mark

Testing Notification for Message on Talk Page

Does it work? did you get the notification? Tedernst 16:35, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

When I first signed up for wikipedia, I was TedErnst, but then somehow couldn't get signed in again using that name so became Tedernst and started editing without realizing what was up. Now I'm attached to it. Then, since this is also mediawiki, I stuck with the strange name. I'll fix it out. Thanks!

And you can welcome Tristan by editing the talk page (not the user page directly), which is considered fine etiquete at mediawikis, as far as I know. Tedernst 16:49, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

Mark, I'm okay with whatever is going to happen here and don't need it to look any way, so please know that I love you very much and all my suggestions are just that, suggestions. I'm here to help. :-)

That said, Mediawiki has some really cool features that I think will be useful to use. Notice how MarkDilley and User: MarkDilley are two different pages? One is an article and the other is a user. I believe it'll be cleaner to not have any people in the article namespace, the space that you want to be full of wikis. When you make a comment that you'd like signed, you don't have to link to anything, you can just type 4 tildes, and it'll expand out with the datestamp and a link to your user page. Tedernst 16:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

• Ted I do not know how to redirect my page MarkDilley to user:MarkDilley, please do that if you can. I want the simplicity of wiking my name.

Oh, and I just remembered, media wiki also has a talk page connected with every other page, in every namespace. So if I want to leave a comment for you, I don't leave it on your user page, but on your talk page: User talk: MarkDilley and you'll get a notification (I'm pretty sure) that you have a new message. Tedernst 16:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

An admin can do it. First, an admin has to delete the page "User:MarkDilley" because it was nothing but a redirect. Then any registered user can move "MarkDilley" page to "User:MarkDilley". Tristram Shandy 17:48, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

So Tristam, I just MarkDilley and it goes to my user name or my article name?

On wikipedia it's really important to preserve edit histories because of the GPL licence. We don't have that issue here with the CC license, correct? So a cut and paste move isn't a problem here the way it is there? TedErnst

The purpose of moving pages with the move function is to keep the edit history for attributing the page authors. The licence of WikiIndex also requires to attribute the author properly, so the move function is still important. Tristram Shandy

Link to yourself automatically using tildas

Just sign your contributions with 4 tildes "~~~~" and you won't need to remember how to link to yourself. TedErnst 17:13, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

Yea, I just don't like the time date stamp, so I don't do that. It is not in my wiki nature :-)

If you don't like the time stamp, you can use three tildes instead. Tristram Shandy

Okay, well, we're going to have to decide the namespace issue. I just noticed that John Stanton has his page in the article space as well. Where can we have that conversation? TedErnst 17:22, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

It is cleaner to have the name of Wiki People have article pages. Thanks for the tild example Tristram! MarkDilley

Category Sorting

[[Category:Wiki People|Tristram Shandy]]

The purpose of this code is not to show up and differently on Tristram's page, it's to sort the name properly on the category page. Otherwise, we'd all end up in the U section, if we're using namespaces. If we're not using namespaces, then we could use that code to sort by last name, if we wanted to.

[[Category:Wiki People|Dilley, Mark]]

Categoriess at the top?

Why? TedErnst

It is a standard that ICANN wiki used, that we all liked, and the added bonus is that the categories sort before the template categories, giving the first ones more relevance with a folksonomy.

Okay, Hopefully I won't hate it too much. TedErnst

You wrote: "also, the standard we are trying to set is categories at the top of the page." They recommend the opposite in Wikipedia because the newbies may get confused when they see odd-looking category descriptions instead of normal text, when they start to edit a page. There used to be problems with search engines, they showed categories before the normal text in their page summaries. However, I don't know if the search engine problem is occuring any more. Tristram Shandy

Personally, I think that is not a problem with this wiki for three reasons:

• The wiki is for other wikis, so one assumes that other contributors are not newbies.
• If we do get a newbie checking out the inside, the data is structured and I think they would be able to figure it out quickly.
• I think categorys in wiki are pretty valuable and exciting things to start to be able to understand, so it is kinda cool to have them smack dab in the front. My 2 cents. :-) MarkDilley