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This needs to stay syncronized with [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]] unless we ditch one of them. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:14, 22 May 2006 (EDT) | This needs to stay syncronized with [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]] unless we ditch one of them. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:14, 22 May 2006 (EDT) | ||
:: I think there should be just one [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:45, 22 May 2006 (EDT) | :: I think there should be just one [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:45, 22 May 2006 (EDT) | ||
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== revert of delete tag == | == revert of delete tag == | ||
Please see the [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community Portal]] button for adding new wikis. Test it out. This page is needed and cannot be deleted. Also, it is not mis-named, because it's for the NewWiki function. It's not a new "Wiki boilerplate", it's a "NewWiki" boilerplate. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 02:55, 10 November 2006 (EST) | |||
Please see the [[Community Portal]] button for adding new wikis. Test it out. This page is needed and cannot be deleted. Also, it is not mis-named, because it's for the NewWiki function. It's not a new "Wiki boilerplate", it's a "NewWiki" boilerplate. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 02:55, 10 November 2006 (EST) | |||
: I don't understand. | : I don't understand. | ||
: Are you saying that ''we need a boilerplate to help people add wiki to the WikiIndex, and that we better not delete this "NewWiki boilerplate" as long as it is in use by the "add new wiki" button on the [[Community Portal]]''? In that case, I totally agree. | : Are you saying that ''we need a boilerplate to help people add wiki to the WikiIndex, and that we better not delete this "NewWiki boilerplate" as long as it is in use by the "add new wiki" button on the [[WikiIndex:Community portal|Community Portal]]''? In that case, I totally agree. | ||
: Or are you saying that, ''for some reason, we need at least two boilerplates -- both a "Wiki boilerplate" and also a "NewWiki boilerplate"''? | : Or are you saying that, ''for some reason, we need at least two boilerplates -- both a "Wiki boilerplate" and also a "NewWiki boilerplate"''? | ||
: (In other words, ''There is a reason we need both a [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]] and also a [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]].''?) | : (In other words, ''There is a reason we need both a [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]] and also a [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]].''?) | ||
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== deletion nomination == | == deletion nomination == | ||
78.32.143.113 nominated this boilerplate for deletion. I think we should keep the boilerplate, unless there's a new boilerplate for the "Create a New Wiki Page" feature at [[Community Portal]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 06:35, 24 December 2011 (PST) | 78.32.143.113 nominated this boilerplate for deletion. I think we should keep the boilerplate, unless there's a new boilerplate for the "Create a New Wiki Page" feature at [[Community Portal]]. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 06:35, 24 December 2011 (PST) | ||
:The 'delete' tag is there because (a) this is NOT an acutal 'boilerplate', and (b) the actual boilerplate for the wiki template is here: [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]]. This template was previously nominated for deletion back in 2006! Furthermore, this boilerplate is not actually used - by looking at the [http://wikiindex.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NewWiki_boilerplate Special:WhatLinksHere] for this NewWiki boilerplate, you will see either links to talk pages of the actual [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]], or empty redirects. I'd support the delete, along with the deletion of all the empty redirects. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 08:00, 2 January 2012 (PST) | :The 'delete' tag is there because (a) this is NOT an acutal 'boilerplate', and (b) the actual boilerplate for the wiki template is here: [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]]. This template was previously nominated for deletion back in 2006! Furthermore, this boilerplate is not actually used - by looking at the [http://wikiindex.org/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:NewWiki_boilerplate Special:WhatLinksHere] for this NewWiki boilerplate, you will see either links to talk pages of the actual [[Template:Wiki Boilerplate]], or empty redirects. I'd support the delete, along with the deletion of all the empty redirects. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 08:00, 2 January 2012 (PST) | ||
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:but I assume one edit to that Portal will switch it to the next boilerplate. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 09:53, 7 May 2012 (PDT) | :but I assume one edit to that Portal will switch it to the next boilerplate. --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 09:53, 7 May 2012 (PDT) | ||
===misunderstanding . . .=== | |||
There seems to be some misunderstanding (on all sides!) - and especially so on 'boilerplates'.<br> | |||
Firstly, as I understand it, a '[[:Category:Boilerplates|Boilerplate]]' is simply (and ONLY) a method of 'copy and paste' - for experienced wiki editors who can copy/paste said boilerplate into a new or existing article, and manually enter all field data. A boilerplate will definately NOT contain any actual coding or syntax to render a true article - what a boilerplate WILL contain is effectively a 'link' to the specific template. So to take the [[:Template:Wikia Boilerplate]] as a specific example, it contains 'copy & paste' info, along with hidden text, and [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]]-specific pre-formated URLs (along with Wikia standard edit mode and wiki licence) - but it also contains the 'link' to the [[:Template:Wiki]] - and it is this specific [[:Template:Wiki]] (and NO other template) which renders the correctly formated 'infobox' (with all its category links - status, language, edit mode, recent changes, etc) on an article page. To prove this point, create a new blank page (from a direct URL edit in your browsers address bar - WITHOUT using any of the 'create new wiki' type of pages), copy & paste the Wikia boilerplate, click on 'Show preview' button, then scroll to the bottom of the page, and under 'Templates used in this preview:' - it will list - 'Template:Wiki' (and NOT any other template)!!! | |||
Quite simply, it is ONLY [[:Template:Wiki]] which contains all of the specific syntax and coding. It is ONLY [[:Template:Wiki]] which is used to render ALL articles here on WikiIndex (well, those which are an article page on a wiki!) - and this is irrespective of which 'boilerplate' may be used, or whatever 'create a new wiki' page or button is used. As proof of this, open up (ideally in a new window or tab) [[Template:NewWiki boilerplate]], then click on its 'edit' tab. At the very top of the edit box window, you will see <pre>{{Wiki</pre>, and again, scroll down to the bottom of the page, look under 'Templates used in this preview:' - it will list - 'Template:Wiki' (along with three/four other templates - but none of those alone will render the correctly formated right-aligned 'infobox' for wiki articles). It will NOT list 'Template:NewWiki boilerplate' (or indeed any 'boilerplate' template) under the Templates used listing. | |||
I'm gonna be BOLD, and amend the [[WikiIndex:Community portal]] section to use the standard [[:Template:Wiki]] - and we can monitor it to see if it makes any changes. If it turns out to be a disasterous edit, then it can be reverted. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:50, 8 September 2012 (PDT) | |||