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User talk:John Stanton
Hello
Requerimos saber ¿como hacer para que mi wiki : www.wicodatos.org pueda tener implementada la caja de creación de artículos? debido a que hemos tratado de crearle una propia, inclusive copiandola de otros wiki-sitios y no lo hemos conseguido.
We need to know: as doing so that my wiki: could www.wicodatos.org have implemented the box of creation of articles? because we have tried to create the proper one to him, inclusive copying it of other wiki-places and have not obtained it.
--Wicodatos Colombia 17:55, 21 June 2006 (EDT)
- My translation: Wicodatos would like the add box for their wiki, but they don't know how to do it. :-) TedErnst | talk 01:33, 22 June 2006 (EDT)
tagging
check out Add a Wiki and How do tags work. I jiggered it a bit, let me know what u think, thx --Ray 02:44, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)
WSR3
hi John, WSR3 is becoming active. see http://www.wikisym.org/wiki/index.php/WSR_3 -- Max
future wiki-nodes
Hello John, I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question. Can we currently sort on a no for URL_wikinode? Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. The_league_of_scarybirds with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, MarkDilley | talk
List of wikis by size
Is it possible to introduce another categorization criteria, by size (conservative pages count)? 84.177.187.236 04:17, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
- Page count would be interesting, but difficult to keep up-to-date. It would also be interesting to measure other things, like the edit rate of wikis, which will vary over time. And the number of active users. But we wouldn't want to be measuring these things by hand. We could try to build a tool to automate some wiki analysis. Visiting wikis as a web-bot. It could also present the figures on the wikiindex wiki by updating the wiki as bot, but it might be easier to implement as a seperate display, as least initially. -- Harry Wood 06:26, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
At least for Mediawikis with more than 7000 articles and Wikimedia Projects a batch process like this alredy exists. http://s23.org/wikistats/ You should contact the author in offering aid to extend his efforts. 84.177.187.236 07:51, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
Hi, im the author. Do you already check the wikis automatically to some extent or is this all manual still? Do you already get data from the Special:Statistics?action=raw pages? Mutante 08:25, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
- Still pretty much a manual operation with a thought to future automation. Welcome any suggestions and/or help along this line John Stanton
Could you extract a list of all Mediawiki URLs, something like "select old_text from text where old_text LIKE "%Recentchanges%"; hmm,or make a mysql dump file and grep it from there? If we had a list with all Special:Statistics URLs of the listed Mediawikis that would be the key to make automated statistics. Mutante 16:02, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
Main Page
Hi John, Sean over at Meatball pointed us in this direction: How do I change the main page for whenever you get around to it. Best, MarkDilley | talk (uhhh, wait, that didn't tell us anything... )
- I'm pretty sure that what that means is that (and an admin will have to do this as the page is protected) the page MediaWiki:Mainpage just needs to edited to say the name of another page. 158.135.241.100 02:43, 1 Mar 2006 (EST)
- Exactly what is it that we want to do here? John Stanton 15:11, 2 Mar 2006 (EST)
- Map the upper left logo to Wiki Index
- Then Wiki Index is going to have to be set as the main page. Clicking that logo is meant to be a shortcut back to the main page. Right now it is mapped there, but that's only because the page it's really mapped to redirects there. —User:Sean Fennel@ 02:03, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)
- I just notced that mediawiki.org has their main page set up exactly the way we've been discussing here: "main" page is page with same name as the wiki itself. —User:Sean Fennel@ 02:06, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)
- Then Wiki Index is going to have to be set as the main page. Clicking that logo is meant to be a shortcut back to the main page. Right now it is mapped there, but that's only because the page it's really mapped to redirects there. —User:Sean Fennel@ 02:03, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)
- Hope that does the trick John Stanton 15:16, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)
Cool John!!! MarkDilley | talk
upgrading
Sean Fennel has been discussing the merits of an upgrade here. How does it look from your end? TedErnst | talk 00:11, 12 Apr 2006 (EDT)
We are in the planning stage for an upgrade from MediaWiki 1.4.5 to 1.6.3 which is the stable current version. If 1.7.X becomes the stable version before we upgrade we will use that version. This promises to be a difficult upgrade for the following reasons: (1) the database schema changes significantly and that nearly always creates problems, (2) a variety of modifications that we have made to enable things like editable menus will have to be redone, and (3) the pretty URL hack may break the whole upgrade process. We have an unused wiki to practice on to refine the process and I hope to have all the wikis in our stable upgraded by 15 May 2006 barring any really tough problems. I tell you all this so that you can understand my reluctance to introduce any more variables into this process before we upgrade. Let us see what the status of the RSS feeds is after the upgrade and then we can decide what to do. John Stanton
new wiki button
brilliant with the pre-load! I love it! TedErnst | talk 15:30, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
- Thanks Ted John Stanton 18:52, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
clickpic
John!!
I think I know what this might mean! The images in the structured data might be able to be mapped to the wiki, right!?!!?! This is awesome!! MarkDilley
- Exactly! 67.160.171.38 20:32, 11 May 2006 (EDT)
- I tried it. It didn't work. TedErnst | talk 13:44, 12 May 2006 (EDT)
- May require some tinkering to work inside another template. It is meant to get an external logo and point it to a wiki page. I think you reversed the usage trying to get a local wiki image and point to an external site. Anyhow play with it and see if you can put it to good use. It could serve as a model for your usage. Another advantage to getting the external Logo is that you can always tell when the wiki is dead :-) John Stanton 18:56, 12 May 2006 (EDT)
no follow on links?
Hi John, check this out. Best, MarkDilley
- The NoFollow setting is a default anti-spam setting in mediawiki and essentially makes spam postings a useless exercise because it makes links on the wiki "no counters" for Google ranking (and other indexers). There should be a policy decision made as to its use or non-use! John 11:59, 19 May 2006 (EDT)
monobook.js
John,, could you please comment on User talk:Sean Fennel#monobook.js? I don't really know much about this, other than that it could help us automate repetitive tass a bit more. TedErnst | talk 13:25, 28 May 2006 (EDT)
- I replied on User talk:Sean Fennel John 13:51, 28 May 2006 (EDT)
.htaccess
John, I've just installed mediawiki at http://chicagocoop.net/wiki and I'd like to have the urls show up like they do here, http://chicagocoop.net/wiki/PageName without the index.php and such. How do I do that? Thanks! TedErnst | talk 14:16, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
- This is what our .htaccess looks like John 16:17, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [ornext] RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d RewriteRule .* - [last] RewriteRule ^([^?].+)$ /index.php/$1 [L] RewriteRule ^(.+)$ /index.php/$1 [L,QSA] AddDefaultCharset utf-8
This operation was way more complicated than I realized, just because I don't know what I'm doing. You .htaccess didn't work for me, likely because my directory structure is different. I ended up re-installing in the /w directory (instead of /wiki) and then following these instructions so my wiki does appear to be at http://chicagocoop.net/wiki and without the index.php http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url#Using_a_rewrite_rule_in_a_.htaccess_file THanks much for geting me started! TedErnst | talk 01:04, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
- Yeah, there are many ways to do this and it does depend alot on your server configuration and your hoster. Be aware that some hosters (like ours) periodocially overwrite .htaccess as a security measure causing you to lose connectivity to your site. I check all our wikis first thing every morning (even before my first cup of coffee) to make sure they are still up. Keep a copy of your .htaccess handy at all times!!! John 12:08, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
Another mediawiki question for you. I can't figure out how to edit the sidebar on my new install. I see that here at WikiIndex it's MediaWiki:MyNavMenu, but that page doesn't exist on my new install. Any suggestions? TedErnst | talk 14:44, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
- AhHa now you are after the secrets of the trade :-). The two menus on the side require a modification to the skin code in Monobook.php. We have several different Monobook.php files for differing configurations of Google AdSense as well as one that does not use any ads. Let me know which one you want & I'll send it to you. John 16:25, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
The no-ad version would be great. Thanks! TedErnst | talk 19:15, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
- Sent it by GMail John 20:46, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
This works great! Thanks! TedErnst | talk 01:54, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
- It has worked well for us but you must remember that is a custom file when you update. Sometimes they modify the skin files during an update (as they did massively between versions 1.4.x to 1.6.x) and I have to reprogram it. Just keep in sync with us and you should be ok! Your next questions should be about the extensions we use (CharInsert and InputBox), I'm ready when you are :-) John 11:57, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
More potential
This wiki is great, but I honestly believe if it turned into a wiki of websites, instead of just wikis, it could be all that better. You already would have a good start on other wikis attempting this, as you already have users and info about lots of wikis. --Elliot Goodrich (not a member here)16:37, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
- Funny you should mention that because within a week or so our sister wiki, AboutUs.com will launch with that exact concept pre loaded with 2 million+ web sites. Keep checking it. John 16:48, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
Talk:WikiProject:Recent Changes Patrol
check it out please - is this an option we need to turn on? TedErnst | talk 01:34, 22 June 2006 (EDT)