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WikiIndex talk: Community portal archives of older talk pages: 1 (2006), 2 (2007–13), 3 (2014–16), 4 (2017)

Pedophile

There is a pedophile at work in your wiki, I have already questioned him and it is clear to me that he is promoting perversion. One of the last things he did is change the category of pederasty into child love. Could someone check on his work and reverse the propaganda aimed at normalizing child sexual abuse? His name is User:Leucosticte. P.S. I think it is very disturbing that this wiki would allow a child molesters to set his own rules, that you want to be inclusive and add all wiki's, I do understand, but you shouldn't allow child molesters to decide how a topic is presented. --198.180.167.4 23:17, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps the users who have objections could try to actually edit constructively and dialog rather than removing information and even template parameters such as URLs? If people want to have a discussion about what censorship, if any, should go on here, it seems like there's a more constructive way than how it's been done so far (which has even included removing other users' talk page comments, making comments such as "piss off", etc.)

Some of the new users may be used to RationalWiki's norms. That site is dedicated to a leftist bias and has an anything-goes mobocratic culture in which civility is discouraged and rules are applied haphazardly, if at all. I think things work differently here. It's definitely not civil to go around calling other users child molestors because of their views, or even because of their desires; that would be like calling a gay rights activist or gay person a homosexual rapist.

The terminological problems have already been pointed out, in that "boylove" and "pederasty" are not synonymous. There is a difference between love and a sexual act. I don't mind if you leave your preferred version of the articles (minus the URL removal and any other obvious vandalism) in place temporarily, if you'll discuss these disagreements, but if you're not going to do that, then I don't think you're showing signs of participating in good faith. Leucosticte (talk) 22:53, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Size broken

Please investigate I don't know why or how--I can't seem to figure it out and I'm rapidly falling asleep. :-/ Koavf (talk) 06:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

That's because of the unexplained(?) disappearance of Semantic MediaWiki. Please see User talk:MarkDilley#Back-end changes ???? - confusion in the mad house. We could either poke someone with shell access (eg. Emufarmers or Ray King) to re-enable that extension or disable the feature completely (pro: can be done immediately & reduce server load; con: no more Semantic Forms :( ). --YiFei | talk 08:07, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

I quite like the Semantic Forms :ppp. But yes, follow the discussion on Mark Dilley's talk page as linked above. Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 15:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Computer // Computers

(moved from User talk:Koavf)

1. Category:Computers
2. Category:Computer

What is the difference? Do we need both?--Manorainjan (talk)

Good question, I believe there is a conversation about that somewhere. What do you think it should be? ~~ MarkDilley

German is my mother tongue. So I will not mess with English names of mayor categories. Therefore the two question marks.

Definitions of what it should contain is missing in both.--Manorainjan (talk) 00:41, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

They are not missing, they are invitations to be filled in. ~~ MarkDilley

as above ... --Manorainjan (talk) 21:31, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

These two categories were created LONG before I found WikiIndex. As Mark said, we have discussed this previously many times . . . and never really reached a concrete answer. From my own perspective, a category normally always contains more than one article on said subject, so from that logic, categories should be plural. However, if the singular sounds 'better' and more gramatically correct, then use the singular. How's that for some 'fence sitting'???? Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 22:01, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

OK, I settle on the no-s-side of the fence because of the "keep it simple" POV. It is not wrong to say computer as a label. But it would be wrong to say technologies, even if in America this kind of logical mistake is the norm. And apples would be definitely not something invented in Cupertino. I imagined some serious difference in between the two, but if it is only for the sake of style, cut the s and merge the two!

Do we have a written naming convention here? Manorainjan (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Not really There aren't a lot of conventions at all around here, actually. There probably should be. This is a small wiki and I'm glad that you're active lately to try to tidy up some of the fringes. Koavf (talk) 14:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Oh yes we do!!!! WikiIndex:Naming conventions is what you need to read! There are many other guidance pages in the WikiIndex meta namespace, generally found in Category:WikiIndex. Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • _{Admin / 'Crat} • talk2HH 21:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I took the 'trouble' to check English Wikipedia and found them using 'Computers' as main cat. For the most cases I would not see any need to invent the wheel again and again. Therefore I suggest as a general naming convention of categories that one takes the ones from English Wikipedia wherever one has no striking argument against it. Wiki is about collecting information collectively for that so many others can make use of it. That should apply for structure as well. Manorainjan (talk) 22:29, 5 August 2014 (UTC)