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 So is the solution to [[revert]] every edit you don't like and lock the article? Too bad there's no active [[bureaucrat]] around...
 :The bureaucrats here know that I work hard defending the site. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:51, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
-::I see. And why does the [[RationalWiki]] article need "defending", especially after another [[sysop]] has already agreed to unlock it and remove the cyberbullying section? Or do you define [[vandalism]] as [[conservapedia]] does - anything that disagrees with you?
+::I see. And why does the [[RationalWiki]] article need "defending", especially after another [[sysop]] has already agreed to unlock it and remove the cyberbullying section? Or do you define [[vandal]]ism as [[conservapedia]] does - anything that disagrees with you?
 :::Sadly, PC, you act in the way your "enemies" do when you have "power".  Please reflect on this. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 02:00, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
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 I see that the person who logs in as [[User:Jonah Musto]] here also claims [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJonah_Musto&diff=68245&oldid=68244] that [[IP editor]] [[Special:Contributions/68.81.95.145]] is not the same person.  Therefore, I blocked 68.81.95.145 for a while.  I'm not sure what else I should do about that.  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:34, 29 July 2009 (EDT)
-:[[User:Jonah Musto]] wrote an entry about [[Bugdom Wiki]] and when I checked in Google I found no evidence that the wiki exists therefore I assumed that this entry was vandalism.  Today Google has a link to a Bugdom Wiki therefore before I checked his more recent edits there was no clear evidence against Jonah Musto. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
+:[[User:Jonah Musto]] wrote an entry about [[Bugdom Wiki]] and when I checked in Google I found no evidence that the wiki exists therefore I assumed that this entry was [[vandal]]ism.  Today Google has a link to a Bugdom Wiki therefore before I checked his more recent edits there was no clear evidence against Jonah Musto. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
 :[[User:Jonah Musto]] requested that [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:68.81.95.145&diff=prev&oldid=68325 this] user be unblocked which he would not have done if someone else were harassing him. He created an entry for "Credit Card" which is not the purpose of this wiki so I deleted it. He asked people to send him money on his userpage which I also deleted. I've blocked him  for a week though he probably needs longer to grow up. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:59, 30 July 2009 (EDT)
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 ==User:Jonah Musto==
-Dear Proxima Centauri, I seem to be having problems with the user [[User:Jonah Musto]]. Repeated [[vandalism]] of the [[Main Page]], as well as insertion of warning templates on my [[User talk:Spud Gun#Ping|talk]] page. All the best --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 10:50, 19 August 2009 (EDT) (PS I have also copied this message on the talk page of [[User talk:Peu#User:Jonah Musto|Wolf]]).
+Dear Proxima Centauri, I seem to be having problems with the user [[User:Jonah Musto]]. Repeated [[vandal]]ism of the [[Main Page]], as well as insertion of warning templates on my [[User talk:Spud Gun#Ping|talk]] page. All the best --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 10:50, 19 August 2009 (EDT) (PS I have also copied this message on the talk page of [[User talk:Peu#User:Jonah Musto|Wolf]]).
 :I also suggest the deletion of the image '''Image:2008Jul-ceiling-fan.jpg''' as it appears to be copyrighted material (taken from the page http://ramblings-from-early-retirement.blogspot.com/ --[[User:Spud Gun|<b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User talk:Spud Gun|talk]]) 11:11, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
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 :::I haven't looked at the evidence but from what little I know of [[DavidCary]], he seems to be a sensible person. But as I have said before, it doesn't seem that editors and [[sysop]]s have any instructions to go by. Two sysops didn't really know what to expect of the owners until there was a conflict. One of them says they are retiring now, and now it seems you may loose another. This may have been prevented if they had some instructions from the beginning. Blocks that are now apparently deemed illegitimate, may have been prevented, if there were rules. Actually I'm not sure when DavidCary's the block policy proposal came out in relation to this, but that is a great idea. I would suggest moving it right to the policy page. Even a half-baked policy is better than no policy. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
-:::I don't know how many people are lined up to take over the grueling work of fixing vandalism and whatnot. I don't know how much work it is, but either way why don't we make some instructions and see if whoever will follow them? That is why I made a [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|policy development page]]. (If it seems I have been using it for my benefit or fun, I apologize.) It doesn't matter to me where or how you do it, I could move "my" policy page to my wiki, and you could start over with your own, but that seems clearly to be part of the solution. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
+:::I don't know how many people are lined up to take over the grueling work of fixing [[vandal]]ism and whatnot. I don't know how much work it is, but either way why don't we make some instructions and see if whoever will follow them? That is why I made a [[WikiIndex:Policies and Guidelines|policy development page]]. (If it seems I have been using it for my benefit or fun, I apologize.) It doesn't matter to me where or how you do it, I could move "my" policy page to my wiki, and you could start over with your own, but that seems clearly to be part of the solution. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
 :::If the ability to oversight could be removed, I would recommend that in Proxima's case, for the time being, especially if the other sysops can't even see what is going on. But I don't know if she wants the job anymore, anyway. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)
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 Hey, you up for chatting in [[IRC]] to help get me up to speed? Best, [[MarkDilley]]
-Several users or several [[sockpuppet]]s of the same user first insisted on getting the [[RationalWiki]] article their way if they could, then when I protected that article they started general vandalism.  I hope I've cleared it all up. As far as I know they're all blocked but the user or users are experts at ban evasion and range blocks may be needed if it restarts. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:19, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
+Several users or several [[sockpuppet]]s of the same user first insisted on getting the [[RationalWiki]] article their way if they could, then when I protected that article they started general [[vandal]]ism.  I hope I've cleared it all up. As far as I know they're all blocked but the user or users are experts at ban evasion and range blocks may be needed if it restarts. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:19, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
 :We tried to improve the article, correct factual errors, improve your terrible writing, but most importantly, remove the blatant advertisement of [[Liberapedia]].
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 Sorry to butt in, but there's no reason for that article to be protected. Also, the promotion of [[Liberapedia]] and PsyGremlin's blog don't belong in an article like that. [[User:SuperJosh|SuperJosh]] 11:30, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
-I feel there's every reason why [http://wikiindex.org/Special:Ipblocklist agressive vandalism and trolling] shouldn't succeed and I feel that's now more important than the [[RationalWiki]] article.  If that sort of thing succeeds once there may be more of it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:40, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
+I feel there's every reason why [http://wikiindex.org/Special:Ipblocklist agressive [[vandal]]ism and trolling] shouldn't succeed and I feel that's now more important than the [[RationalWiki]] article.  If that sort of thing succeeds once there may be more of it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:40, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
 :The vandalism was to get a senior admin to notice, and the trolling took place only in your mind. You could have at least turned up to the IRC meeting. Phantom Hoover 13:18, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
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 I'm not sure why I got zapped, but thanks for fixing it. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 15:59, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
 :You got zapped because Proxima was abusing her power, and Nx needed to get someone to pay attention. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 16:15, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
-:: Well, that is a bit daft. Zapping me is an act of bad faith. And as I've got no [[sysop]] powers, there is nothing I could do to change Proxima Centauri's behavior. The only thing that vandalising my page is going to make me think to do is ask the admins to block someone's IP (or follow them around reverting their vandalism). It is a counter-productive behavior. It is going to make people think that Nx is a trouble maker.
+:: Well, that is a bit daft. Zapping me is an act of bad faith. And as I've got no [[sysop]] powers, there is nothing I could do to change Proxima Centauri's behavior. The only thing that vandalising my page is going to make me think to do is ask the admins to block someone's IP (or follow them around reverting their [[vandal]]ism). It is a counter-productive behavior. It is going to make people think that Nx is a trouble maker.
 :: Surely Nx (whoever they are) should apply for some sort of medation process instead. [[User:David Shepheard|David Shepheard]] 16:59, 27 August 2009 (EDT)