User talk:Proxima Centauri: Difference between revisions

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== Wikiindex ==

 

Hello. I'm BobaCartman. You are a User of Wikiindex and I wan't with the [http://kuwikis.npage.eu/ KUW] make a German Version. Did you know, that we allowed to? Gruß, <span class="plainlinks">[http://de.wikia.com/wiki/Benutzer:BobaCartman <span style="color:#0000CD;"> BobaCartman </span>]</span> 12:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

 

== [[:Category:ReadOnly]] ==

 

== I edited your work ==

 

== vandal? ==

 

or someone with much different opinion from ours?  Is there a way to collaborate with them?  Maybe give them their language in description section, but keep critique section and maybe let the questions in the critique stand stronger than the other things?

 

Best, [[MarkDilley]]

== Category:Pseudoscience ==

 

Good idea for a category. There are a good proportion of the wikis in ''Category: science'' that could be shifted to ''Category:Pseudoscience''. --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 07:01, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

== Let's chat ==

 

== Nice to meet you ==

You have just been made an admin on this wiki <b>Elassint</b>, 11 3 2008 ^{[[User talk:Elassint|talk]]}

Thanks! I didn't expect that. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 14:54, 5 November 2008 (EST)

 

Hello, I made you a [[sysop]] because, through your efforts here, you care about this [[wiki]].  Work here is open - much of it is a reference (like [[Wikis to Add]] - not exactly what I had envisioned - but cool none the less :-)  I hope to highlight some cool things that are happening within wiki communities here - give it some warmth.  But really - you can build it in a direction you want.  One thing I think is lacking is [[welcoming]].  Several years ago, many of us got together at [[WikiSym]] in Denmark and we set up [[WikiOhana]] - one of the first things we thought needed to happen in wikis - was to welcome people.  What also needed to happen was to welcome wikis to the [[WikiOhana]].  Look forward to more.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

 

Thanks for the welcome. I'm already used to fighting on several wikis, so that doesn't actually bother me. Also, if an edit war occurs and everyone keeps reverting and stuff, protection may be recommended. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 11:40, 19 November 2008 (EST)

:I know. Before I became a sysop I promised that I wouldn't use sysop buttons over the Conservapedia RationalWiki issue. I'm stuck.  I can't easily do anything. I think we're all used to fighting on other wikis. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:36, 19 November 2008 (EST)

== Sorry for my tardiness ==

 

== Introduction ==

Hi, I'm [[User:ForestForTrees|ForestForTrees]]. I'm way too busy right now seeding [[TMS_Wiki|The TMS Wiki]] to do much editing here, but thought it would be good to introduce myself. [[User:ForestForTrees|ForestForTrees]] 12:13, 19 January 2009 (EST)

 

== username/password ==

 

Hello Proxima Centauri, I have a problem. Wikiindex doesn't recognise my password. I always use the same one on wikis, so i'm sure i didn't type it wrong. My username is [[User:D. G. Neree|D. G.Neree]]. is there a way to solve this? [[User:80.101.117.19|80.101.117.19]] 08:18, 15 February 2009 (EST)

 

I don't know what to do but I've contacted several other administrators. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:46, 15 February 2009 (EST)

 

:Thanks Proxima, I've posted my reply to User talk:D. G. Neree --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 23:04, 25 February 2009 (EST)

 

== Bureaucrats ==

 

== RE: Slow Wikia ==

 

Which skin do you use? If you're using Monaco, then it's not Wikia that's slowing you down; it's the Monaco skin that's slowing you down. Monaco has too many elements and graphics that need extra loading time. Try switching to Monobook; less thing load and such. I'm using the computer at one of my university's library, and it's not slow. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:28, 24 February 2009 (EST)

 

 

 

I have just started the page [[Proposal:wikiFactor]], and it would be wonderful if you would take a look. All the best  --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 05:55, 4 March 2009 (EST)

== Main namespace ==

 

== New problem ==

 

Dear Proxima Centauri,

 

Thank you for fighting spam.

 

I am mystified at something I see in the Recent changes:

As far as I can tell from [[Special:Contributions/]], this user has edited 2 pages, and I don't see any "links to external sites" in those edits.

 

While I am in favor of blocking people "Spamming links to external sites", I fail to see how blocking people who don't do that accomplishes that goal.

 

Therefore I unblocked this user.

 

Please tell me if I am making a horrible mistake :-).

 

--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 08:49, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

 

 

What about [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk%3AActive_administrators_of_this_wiki&diff=67216&oldid=67198 this]? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 16:09, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

: Please, have a look[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki&oldid=67235#Request_for_admin_intervention]! --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:40, 29 June 2009 (EDT).

== Really? ==

So is the solution to revert every edit you don't like and lock the article? Too bad there's no active bureaucrat around...

 

The bureaucrats here know that I work hard defending the site. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:51, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 

:I see. And why does the RationalWiki article need "defending", especially after another sysop has already agreed to unlock it and remove the cyberbullying section? Or do you define vandalism as conservapedia does - anything that disagrees with you?

::Sadly, PC, you act in the way your "enemies" do when you have "power".  Please reflect on this. [[User:Huw Powell|Huw Powell]] 02:00, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

This is very obviously a troll.  The delusions of grandeur displayed there are beyond even him.  Don't be fooled.  [[User:86.46.210.2|86.46.210.2]] 19:51, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

 

== block length ==

 

Dear Proxima Centauri,

thank you for fighting spam and otherwise doing so much to make this WikiIndex a better place.

 

I suspect you have more experience with blocking users than I do -- would you mind sharing your knowledge at [[WikiIndex:Blocking Policy]] ?

--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 08:30, 10 July 2009 (EDT)

 

== Chess ==

 

Thanks for the addition to Chess Wiki. I decommercialized it a little more and added a bit of clarification from a quick look at the WP article. Then (after several overdue improvements there) I came here and improved the entry here.  One thing leads to another! [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 05:31, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

Hi, noticed the WikiSynergy page.  Funny!  How did you find us?  You seem to know Rationalwiki and have done some research on recent edits (he may or may not have been trolling, and was otherwise a bit useful). [[User:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 03:18, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

Why did you think [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiSynergy&oldid=68093 this?] It is not true, but I am very interested to know why you thought it.  I once tried to get a username on Conservapedia, and I won't go near the place again, though they are welcome to bring their controversies to WikiSynergy. [[User:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 03:32, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

[[A Storehouse of Knowledge]] was started by disatisfied Conservapedians so I thought the same aplied to [[WikiSynergy]], also [[RationalWiki]] had dscovered WikiSynergy and they study Conservapedia diligently so I thought they had found WikiSynergy through their Conservapedia contacts. I changed this the second time I edited the entry. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:10, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

:I see.  Actually, it is more accurate to say that it was started originally as a reaction to radical skepticism takeover of Wikipedia articles.  Rationalwiki came across us at the [[SCEPCOP]] forum. Thanks for putting the page up (: [[User:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 16:55, 25 July 2009 (EDT)

 

:Check this out [http://wikisynergy.com/wiki/WikiSynergy:To-do_list], see what you think we ought to do. [[User:Purple Scissor|Purple Scissor]] 02:25, 27 July 2009 (EDT)

 

 

Dear Proxima Centauri,

 

I find [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Proxima_Centauri&diff=prev&oldid=68254 this edit] a bit confusing.

Is that person -- who logs in as [[User:Jonah Musto]] here -- claiming that the Wikipedia "Jonah Musto" is not the same person?

 

Therefore, I blocked 68.81.95.145 for a while.

I'm not sure what else I should do about that.

--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:34, 29 July 2009 (EDT)

[[User:Jonah Musto]] wrote an entry about [[Bugdom Wiki]] and when I checked in Google I found no evidence that the wiki exists therefore I assumed that this entry was vandalism.  Today Google has a link to a Bugdom Wiki therefore before I checked his more recent edits there was no clear evidence against Jonah Musto. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:16, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

[[User:Jonah Musto]] requested that [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:68.81.95.145&diff=prev&oldid=68325 this] user be unblocked which he would not have done if someone else were harassing him. He created an entry for "Credit Card" which is not the purpose of this wiki so I deleted it. He asked people to send him money on his userpage which I also deleted. I've blocked him  for a week though he probably needs longer to grow up. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:59, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

== Ceiling fans ==

 

== User:Jonah Musto ==

 

Dear Proxima Centauri, I seem to be having problems with the user [[User:Jonah Musto | Jonah Musto ]]. Repeated vandalism of the Main Page, as well as  

insertion of warning templates on my [[User talk:Spud Gun#Ping | talk]] page. All the best --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 10:50, 19 August 2009 (EDT) (PS I have also copied this message on the talk page of [[User talk:Peu#User:Jonah Musto | Wolf]]).

:I also suggest the deletion of the image '''Image:2008Jul-ceiling-fan.jpg''' as it appears to be copyrighted material (taken from the page http://ramblings-from-early-retirement.blogspot.com/ --[[User:Spud Gun | <b><FONT COLOR="#8B3A3A">Carl McBride</FONT></b>]] ([[User_talk:Spud_Gun |talk]]) 11:11, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

:: Dear Proxima Centauri,

:: I am confused. Carl McBride seems to be accusing Jonah Musto of making bad edits to [[User talk:Spud Gun]].

:: However, when I look at http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Spud_Gun&action=history , I don't see any edits by Jonah Musto. (And one edit by MarvelZuvembie didn't sound at all like MarvelZuvembie to me).

:: What am I missing? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 00:43, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

:::: Ah, so that's what I've been missing.

:::: Such deletion of page history is something I used to do a lot.

:::: Until I read [http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Burning_the_Evidence "Burning the Evidence"] (one [http://web.archive.org/web/20071030070633/http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Conservapedia:Burning_the_Evidence archive]).

:::: That made me swing in the opposite direction, towards almost never deleting page history.

:::: Perhaps you can help me find a good balance between the two. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:44, 20 August 2009 (EDT)

: The "archive" link seems to be working now.

: All wiki have (ahem) "contributors" who type in stuff we don't want.

: What I'm hearing you say is that when Conservapedia removes all evidence that unwanted stuff ever existed, it's censorship, and therefore bad.

: What I'm hearing you say is that when you remove all evidence that unwanted stuff ever existed, it's deleting mindless personal abuse, and therefore good.

: I agree that "censoring criticism" and "deleting mindless personal abuse" are two different things.

: I agree that we don't need mindless abuse.

: If you delete abuse by editing the page normally, leaving the unwanted stuff in the history, then everyone can see what is happening. Some people call this "open process" [http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?OpenProcess (Meatball: "open process")].

: If you delete abuse by removing it from the history, then it is impossible for most people to tell whether you are deleting abuse or censoring criticism.

::I haven't looked at the evidence but from what little I know of DavidCary, he seems to be a sensible person. But as I have said before, it doesn't seem that editors and sysops have any instructions to go by. Two sysops didn't really know what to expect of the owners until there was a conflict. One of them says they are retiring now, and now it seems you may loose another. This may have been prevented if they had some instructions from the beginning. Blocks that are now apparently deemed illegitimate, may have been prevented, if there were rules. Actually I'm not sure when DavidCary's the block policy proposal came out in relation to this, but that is a great idea. I would suggest moving it right to the policy page. Even a half-baked policy is better than no policy. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)  

::I don't know how many people are lined up to take over the grueling work of fixing vandalism and whatnot. I don't know how much work it is, but either way why don't we make some instructions and see if whoever will follow them? That is why I made a [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines|policy development page]]. (If it seems I have been using it for my benefit or fun, I apologize.) It doesn't matter to me where or how you do it, I could move "my" policy page to my wiki, and you could start over with your own, but that seems clearly to be part of the solution. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

::If the ability to oversight could be removed, I would recommend that in Proxima's case, for the time being, especially if the other sysops can't even see what is going on. But I don't know if she wants the job anymore, anyway. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:49, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

::Actually many of DavidCary's ideas above, may as well be adapted as a guideline for sysops. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:04, 5 September 2009 (EDT)

== Unblock ip address (68.81.95.145). Visit [[user talk:68.81.95.145]] to see reason why. ==

Unblock ip address (68.81.95.145). Visit [[user talk:68.81.95.145]] and see the request I posted because he/she doesn't deserve to be blocked. All he/she did was removing vacation notice when he/she was back from vacation, and I can see that the owner of [[User:Jonah Musto]] is the same person who owns the ip address of 68.81.95.145 because I saw that user Jonah Musto requested unblock on [[user talk:68.81.95.145]].

 

== Power ==

 

Please, stop abusing your power in such a Schlaflyesque fashion. How cliché that, having started out as attempting to parody it, you have slipped further and further towards Conservapediaism. go on, block me here; I won't really care. The more you do this, the more you make people realise how childish you are. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 15:13, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Liberapedia is a place where RationalWikians can hang out during the crisis, further Liberapedia has articles critical of Conservapedia and that information should not have been removed. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:54, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

Bob's place is also mentioned as a place where RationalWikians hang out. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:58, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

== From Nx ==

 

<blockquote>Please inform miss Centauri that I have sent Mr. Stanton and Mr. Ernst emails regarding this situation. Also inform her that if I'm not unblocked by tomorrow morning 8:00 CET, RationalWiki will be down forever for her, and she will be more than welcome to read about Conservapedia or improve articles at Liberapedia meanwhile. Nx 20:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)</blockquote>

 

Will RationalWiki be down for ever for everyone? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:32, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

:If you had bothered to read my edits instead of just mindlessly reverting, you'd know. [[User:67.159.45.53|67.159.45.53]] 16:35, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

:::And I guess under you policy of removing content being a blockable offense, noone could remove that. Genius! [[User:67.159.45.53|67.159.45.53]] 16:40, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

== Please unblock me ==

 

== This is not the solution ==

 

== IRC? ==

Hey, you up for chatting in IRC to help get me up to speed? Best, [[MarkDilley]]

Several users or several sockpuppets of the same user first insisted on getting the [[RationalWiki]] article their way if they could, then when I protected that article they started general vandalism.  I hope I've cleared it all up. As far as I know they're all blocked but the user or users are experts at ban evasion and range blocks may be needed if it restarts. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:19, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

:We tried to improve the article, correct factual errors, improve your terrible writing, but most importantly, remove the blatant advertisement of Liberapedia.

== RationalWiki article ==

 

I feel there's every reason why [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Ipblocklist agressive vandalism and trolling] shouldn't succeed and I feel that's now more important than the [[RationalWiki]] article.  If that sort of thing succeeds once there may be more of it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:40, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

:If you are using firefox try installing and configuring [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/16 chatzilla].--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 14:03, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

== Thank you for reverting the vandalism to my user page ==

 

:: Well, that is a bit daft. Zapping me is an act of bad faith. And as I've got no sysop powers, there is nothing I could do to change Proxima Centauri's behavior. The only thing that vandalising my page is going to make me think to do is ask the admins to block someone's IP (or follow them around reverting their vandalism). It is a counter-productive behavior. It is going to make people think that Nx is a trouble maker.

== Quoting or paraphrasing you, in WikiIndex policy proposals ==

 

I'm suggesting we test out a [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notes_to_editors_of_this_page|policy of neutrality]] with regard to edits done on policy pages. Therefore, I propose we relocate or paraphrase any comments made there, in keeping with this policy. (So others will not be allowed to insert things you may find offensive.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 04:28, 3 September 2009 (EDT)

I can't easily object as I believe in following the scientific method.  Please remember that I'm a human being subject to human error and I sometimes revise my ideas later. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]]

:I'll keep that in mind. You have already weighed in on one of the most important subjects. (The issue of [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#How_sympathetic_or_critical.3F_.28Who_decides.3F.29|allowing criticism]].) I could ask you if I find anything I want to quote, but I don't really want to bother you especially when I don't know if anything will come of this. [[WikiIndex_talk:Policies_and_Guidelines|DavidCary had some questions/(suggestions)]] lately. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:06, 3 September 2009 (EDT)

 

:::I'm not sure who Nx is talking about but I'm gonna pretend its me cause I do enjoy are debates. However, since this is someone else's userpage I will reply [[User_talk:Lumenos#My_.22agenda.22_part_2_.28this_time_it.27s_scienticlish.29|on mine instead]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 11:27, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

Hi - can you check out, contribute if you want - [[WikiIndex:Admin_Notes#October_2010_Upgrade_Thoughts]] - best, [[MarkDilley]]

I don't know enough to contribute. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 00:30, 20 December 2010 (PST)