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:::If they're advertised on the central community forum and allowed to stand, that pretty much establishes [[Project:Consensus|consensus]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | :::If they're advertised on the central community forum and allowed to stand, that pretty much establishes [[Project:Consensus|consensus]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:00, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::Sure. If. Not allowed to stand. Q.E.D. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 18:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ::::Sure. If. Not allowed to stand. Q.E.D. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 18:06, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::So basically, it can be harder to promulgate a written policy than to impose the practices that create a de facto policy. Any user can revert a change to a policy page, but only a sysop can take the sysop actions that policies reflect. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | :::::So basically, it can be harder to promulgate a written policy than to impose the practices that create a de facto policy. Any user can revert a change to a policy page, but only a sysop can take the sysop actions that policies reflect. So we have a situation in which there are unwritten rules that don't give users fair warning of what to expect. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 18:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC) | ||