WikiIndex talk:Community talk: Difference between revisions

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==Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character ","==

==rel nofollow on links to wikis==

But on further examination, I discovered that your link to my wiki is done as rel="nofollow".  This tag causes spiders and indexers to ignore the link, so my wiki gets no benefit in return for your use of my information.  Is this fair?   

Essentially you are profiting by the existence of my wiki, along with having my keywords on your site, without giving my wiki the benefit of a real link from yours.   

:''Not sure I understand this "But there are creative ways to selectively drop the rel="nofollow" on links that you want." - If we have done this to try and prevent wiki spam, how would we do it otherwise?  No disrespect is intentioned, so thanks for bringing this issue up.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

We have decided to turn this feature off. 22-May-2006

::Yeah, the default is on, I just turned it off again. Sorry!  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:35, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

==Renaming categories==

==input requested on categorization (meta)==

==[[:Category:Wiki Language]]?==

{{CategoryDiscussions}}

==Help namespace==

:David, I looked at it, and it looks cool, but I am not sure I get it.  Please list it if you want.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

==private wiki advice needed==

:''Does your friend want a free service or can they pay?'' [[MarkDilley]]

In order of who I have known longer:

*[[:Category:Socialtext|Socialtext]] - talk to [[Sunir Shah]]

*[[:Category:Wetpaint|Wetpaint]] - Ray has met these folks.

:Thanks.  I have no idea what to do once I arrive at these links.  The last option is something you get if you sign up for a paid hosting plan?  Howard

==Questions go where? ==

How do I know if my question goes on Community talk or talk: Community talk? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 11:44, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

::I've merged the two pages now, so problem should be solved. --[[User:Singkong2005|Singkong2005]] 09:51, 30 August 2006 (EDT)

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:Yep. Pipe the external link to the full URL of the image. &mdash;[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 14:48, 27 Mar 2006 (EST)

Thanks Sean, so we can hard wire the image to the front page of the wiki being referenced?  If so, can you show me documentation?  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

==social-ism==

==technical glitch==

:I can only guess that that's a MediaWiki feature.  If you don't use the [[Special:Watchlist|watchlist]], does having something on there impact you somewhere else? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:04, 6 June 2006 (EDT)

No, just annoying! :-) [[MarkDilley]]

:I'm sorry to hear you're annoyed, my friend. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:11, 6 June 2006 (EDT)

==OpenG==

==can't save edits to [[Wikis by response time]]==

It looks like all edits are being blocked by the spam filter because the page contains  the characters '. h t m l' somewhere., edits to THIS page were blocked because it contained the letters 'x x x', I changed them to 'yyy' -- [[User:Versageek|Versageek]] 15:37, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

:I didn't even know we '''had''' a spam filter. &mdash;[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 17:49, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

==[[WikiNode]] question==

:That was me.  Have you had a chance to see anything about the WikiNodes network?  [[WikiNodes Wiki|WikiNodes]] are pretty cool, and allow you to show anyone the wikis that are "neighbors" of yours.  So that page is just a generic template that I pasted in.  It linked back to your page on [[WikiIndex]] so you'd know it was us.  Feel free to change anything on the page, including the links to your RC and mainpage.  Change those to the most important pages on your site and add links to the wikinodes of sites you consider to be your neighbors.  Please let me know if you'd like to talk more about this. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 05:36, 22 August 2006 (EDT)

::I still don't quite get it, but I also think all of my wiki is lost.  Please see my comment at [[Category talk:ElWiki]].  [[User:ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 14:10, 23 August 2006 (EDT)

Well it's back up now without explanation.  It's really hard to find a good [[wiki farm]], I find, though.  [[Editthis.info]] has a size limit.  [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] may cause you to lose control of your wiki at any time.  The rest either give you a single page or are not [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]].  [[User:ZealPalace|ZealPalace]] 21:29, 23 August 2006 (EDT)

==Sitemap==

:Hi.  I think the idea sounds good, is it possible for you to start the process, or do we have to have an administrator do it?  Cheers, [[MarkDilley]]

:Ok, I will let [[John Stanton]] know about it.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]

Hi Casper, I'm going to keep an eye on it to see what the impact is before I change the SQL but thanks for the suggestion.  The database schema had a significant change between 1.5 and 1.6 and that's what worried me but I tested it on my personal wiki and it seems to work fine.  Thanks!  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:57, 28 August 2006 (EDT)

When I do a search on "concepts", I see that #11 in the results is the page about the [[CTM Wiki]].

By default you cant have a search string less than four characgters in length in MySQL.  It's possible to change this setting however.

==OpenID==

:There's a more useful page at [[mw:Extension:OpenID]]. I would ''love'' to help someone at WikiIndex install this software, step-by-step if needed. --[[User:Evan|Evan]] 14:20, 3 February 2007 (PST)

==How are you doing hotlinking in mediawiki==

: [[Sean Fennel]] is the one that probably knows the answer to this one. [[MarkDilley]]

==For those of you who function better in UseMod==

==Broader wikis==

: This wiki is a community effort, so if you've got a plan and want to set up an project to carry it out, by all means, do so.  You are also welcome to join us for a [[WikiIndex:Happening|Happening]] if you'd like to talk things over or present a specific proposal and have a chance to get real-time feedback.  Or not.  And just get to work! :-)  No worries either way. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:02, 15 September 2006 (EDT)

::Excellent - will do this. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins/Singkong2005]] <small>^{[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]}</small> 00:36, 21 September 2006 (EDT)

==[[User:Singkong2005/The Wiki Synergy Project|The Wiki Synergy Project]]==

Sorry for your time.... Why i can't see images on this resource? My Browser is: Opera. Thank you.

:Let us know if this helps. --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins/Singkong2005]] <small>^{[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]}</small> 21:07, 10 October 2006 (EDT)

==Feedback==

=="BuildingControlsWiki"==

==Category images==

If it's not too server-painful, we can upload an image for each category, for example a French flag for [[:Category:French]], or a image of an iPod at [[:Category:iPod]]. <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:23, 7 December 2006 (EST)

==Duplicate categories==

==Research and analysis collaboration?==

==Changing username==

::[[Meta-Wiki:Renameuser|Yes it is]]. They have [[Wikipedia:Special:Version|quite a few]] pretty nifty extensions there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 15:44, 20 December 2006 (PST)

As of 2013, 'rename user' is now installed.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • _{[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]} • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:39, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

I couldn't even post this message until I removed the url in the message. This is obviously not working the way it should, if it blocks legitimate editing.  

:CAPTCHAs are rather difficult to implement effectively, and really only stop spambots. I think (hope) I've created a whitelist and added that as the first entry. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:05, 1 January 2007 (PST)

:Spambots are the source of most of the wiki linkspam at the moment, and blacklists are doing a poor job of dealing with the problems as spammers are free to just register more domain names and hide behind a long list of open proxies scattered across the net. There is an extension (ConfirmEdit) available from MediaWiki's SVN that provides a captcha (or asks for the answer to a maths problem) - I've found it to be the most effective way to stop 'bots from posting anything with any external links. This would be the majority of rubbish pages with trailing /'s, /index.php/ or other nonsense in the titles. --[[User:Carlb|Carlb]] 10:09, 14 May 2007 (EDT)

It's been brought up before, but the blacklist makes it impossible to edit the entry on [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]. I was only planning to update the statistics and the logo. Is there a way to whitelist ED such that the article can be edited by registered users? [[User:Dianoga|Dianoga]] 18:28, 19 December 2007 (EST)

==RecentChanges.info==

==WikiIndex.org==

: Don't know what happened there but I'll check it out [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:27, 20 April 2007 (PDT)

:: Could you check this again? Thank you. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 07:23, 20 September 2010 (PDT)

==Images==

:As far as I know, it still works. As for that image, I'll look through the deletion logs and see if it's there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 21:15, 1 May 2007 (PDT)

::Ah, something's linking to it as a wiki page rather than a file. Ping John on that. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Arial;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 21:18, 1 May 2007 (PDT)

==Open Call for Editors to Participate in Research Project==

My research is being carried out jointly with Melissa Terras at UCL http://www.ucl.ac.uk/slais/melissa-terras/ .  Her email address is m.terras (at) ucl.ac.uk .

==A wiki for connecting with people locally?==

Thoughts, anyone? Anyone else think this would be a massively useful thing? --[[User:Singkong2005|Chris Watkins a.k.a. Chriswaterguy]] <small>^{[[User talk:Singkong2005|talk]]}</small> 00:04, 14 February 2008 (EST)

::Have a look at [[WikiSocial]] --[[User:Matthias|Matthias]] 12:45, 14 February 2008 (EST)

==Advice on choosing a wiki platform==

:That way, if one is ever temporarily offline, people can immediately use the other one.

:Perhaps also the [[Wiki: RunningYourOwnWikiFaq]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:15, 11 December 2008 (EST)

==Vandalism==

==Spam reporting==

==Two wikis, one name==

:Hmm. This is bound to happen more in the future, so a formal policy would be a good idea.

==Namespace Org/Re-org and general ideas==

*Create seperate Namespaces for the three main subjects that WikiIndex covers. An idea for the Namespace names would be "Wiki", "Editor", and "Idea". This would give us a first step to splitting WikiIndex up into three seperate sections.

*Once we have this, we can proceed further. Each Namespace could have a main page, such as "Wiki:Contents", "Editor:Contents", and "Idea:Contents". In these content pages, we could start with splitting up individual wikis up into sections. Seperate headers for different sortations, such as "Wikis by size", "Wikis by subject" and so on.

Further organizational ideas doubtlessly exist, but what I've layed out here should, I think, provide a first basis for the WikiIndex.- [[User:Jacjohncoles|Jacjohncoles]]^{[[User talk:Jacjohncoles|Talk]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Jacjohncoles|Contribs]]} 16:53, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

:What was the reason for your proposed 'Editors' namespace? Was that something that would be used to help find people with WikiIndex user accounts? If so, then I think that categorising users would help. But most users seem to have a very chaotic attitude to their user page, so I can't see how you could do that without getting people to put some sort of template on their page. I think that ''might'' lead to people visiting other people's user pages and telling them 'you have done your user page wrong'. I think that you would need to tread lightly in any attmpt to organise users into groups. Ironically, I got specifically asked to create my user name in the main namespace (instead of the user namespace), so it looks like someone has already decided to do the opposite thing to your suggestion. You might want to find out who decided on that policy and talk to them. It is possible that your 'Editors' namespace would be better done if people were moved back to the 'User' namespace that other wiki editors would expect to see them under. (The Search page is already setup to look for pages within the User namespace, but adding an 'Editors' namespace would create a need to reprogram the Search page.)

:In fact I wonder if anything that is statistical could be something that should be put into some sort of template. If lots of wikis have advertising, then should [[Template:Wiki]] be updated to have a line that lets people know if a given wiki has adverts on it? Or would it be better to have additional templates (like you already do with [[Template:Size]]?

:::''"By basic information, I mean facts which can be verified empirically (the link, the underlying wiki engine, the statement of purpose, # of pages, etc.). I differentiate this from people's subjective experiences with the wiki. [...] --MarvelZuvembie 20:34, 16 October 2009 (EDT)" Quote is from ''[[WikiIndex talk:Policies and Guidelines#Proposal: Articles should preferably stick to facts|here]] and that is a more recent conversation. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 16:30, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

::Yes, I have.  I will try to do something.  [[User:Emijrp|Emijrp]] 02:00, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

==Non-English characters in PAGENAME==

There are several wikis in [[:Category:Wiki Korean]] for which the PAGENAME is written in Korean characters which cannot be reproduced on my computer.  I don't know Unicode from a unicorn, but my computer can display a surprising variety of characters from different languages (Chinese, Japanese, Hindi, Thai, Hebrew, Arabic, etc.), but it has trouble with Korean and Burmese.  I'm wondering if these pages should be moved to a new PAGENAME.  I'm not trying to be English-centric (or Roman-alphabet-centric), notwithstanding that this site is already pretty much that way.  But standing operating procedure seems to be to use the English name ([[wp:exonym|an exonym]]) in the namespace and then add redirects to that page for the name in the native language ([[wp:endonym|endonym]]).  Alternatively, we could leave these articles as they are but add redirects using the Roman alphabet (assuming we can find a translation).  I think I'm going to use that plan for now.  I'm just wondering what would be of most benefit for our visitors. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 19:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

==Template:New Person==

==Websites Wiki==

It may start competing with WikiIndex soon.  There are stirrings.  You folks may want to see if you can come to some arrangement, perhaps involving reciprocal links on the basis that Wikia doesn't list any more wikis.  [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 07:52, 31 January 2010 (EST)

==I'm looking for a speakeasy kinda wiki==

==Dump or backup==

Hi all.  Before starting to participate in this wiki, I would like to know if there are public dumps or backups.  I mean, I like to have copies of the free licensed projects where I collaborate.  I don't like when a fantastic projects disappear in a data disaster.  [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] contains a script for generating dumps.  You can read more about this [[mw:Manual:Backing up a wiki#XML dump|here]].  Regards. [[User:Emijrp|Emijrp]] 02:30, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

:I'd check with [[Mark Dilley]]. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:49, 4 November 2010 (PDT)

::Any updates on this? [[User:Emijrp|emijrp]] 02:31, 5 April 2011 (PDT)

==Missing wikis==

Hi all.  What do you think about [[wiki]]s which disappear?  I think that every year a lot of wikis are [[:Category:Dead|deleted]] or get [[:Category:Cannot connect|offline]].  I saw a few years ago how most of the wikis available in the [[ScribbleWiki]] hosting were lost forever.  How can we avoid this?  A lot of wikis are free licensed, and nobody cares about getting a copy or backup.  That is incredible!  [[User:Emijrp|Emijrp]] 09:57, 3 November 2010 (PDT)

:That's an interesting question. What should the lifecycle of a wiki be? Were they meant to last forever? I didn't realize just how many wikis there are until I discovered [[WikiIndex]]. Having now shallowly observed several hundred wikis, in my opinion, not all of them deserve to live forever. And clearly, some were designed with a limited-time purpose, not to be relevant a decade later. But I take your point, a lot of good information and hard work can be lost if site owners or hosts are careless. The best advice I can offer to avoid this is for people to plan their wikis carefully. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:48, 4 November 2010 (PDT)

==Where to highlight a Q&A site about wikis?==

As an initial activity, utilizing the model set by [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] staff [[Internet Relay Chat]] (IRC) office hours, MediaWiki.org's WikiProject Extensions is presenting our first MediaWiki Workshops for developers (volunteer and staff).  Preparing extensions for MediaWiki 1.19 will be held on 13 January 2012 at 19:00 UTC in IRC (#wikimedia-dev).

Everyone is invited to attend.  Developers interested in serving as "extensions" or "MediaWiki 1.19" experts are encouraged to signup as participants at: [[mw:Project:WikiProject Extensions/MediaWiki Workshops#MediaWiki 1.19 Experts]]

==Biased editing here==

::Currently I'm a wikia user (since 2008) and you seem by your profile to be anti-wikia. Perhaps a third party is in order. [[User:Devilmanozzy|Devilmanozzy]] ([[User talk:Devilmanozzy|talk]]) 23:26, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

::::Wikia continues to have such a large market share because no worthy competitor has arisen to claim that market niche. Wikia's management has had the luxury of slacking off and not adhering to high standards because people have nowhere else to go, unless they want to deal with the learning curve and other costs involved in creating and maintaining one's own MediaWiki installation. A lot of people who want to create collaborative sites just aren't very technically-inclined.

Both of you raise interesting comments and observations, and both, to a certain extent are accurate and valid.  Personally, I have no axe to grind against [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] or indeed any other host or [[wiki farm]], but I do think that it is perfectly acceptable to detail failings and criticisms against any host - providing that it is submitted here as a form of commentary, and more importantly, that it is '''fair, reasonable and accurate'''.  However, IMOVHO, I ''do'' think that Wikia have questions to answer - around many aspects of its operation, including advertising, and malicious code it hides.  And whilst it is very true that new wikis are frequently being created on Wikia, the amount of wikis which have been [[:Category:Dormant|abandoned]] on Wikia is startling!

In light of all what is said above, please respect each others' rights to free speach.  Happy editing to all, best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:52, 5 October 2012 (PDT)

==How wide is our coverage, compared to what is out there in the wikisphere?==

==Article length==

I notice that we don't actually have a lot of pages in [[:Category:WikiConcept]] and [[:Category:WikiIdea]]. To what extent is it actually encouraged to add these kinds of pages? There's a lot that one could write about wiki-philosophy, wiki norms, etc. However, I don't want to do it if it'll be frowned upon. A [[meatball wiki]] is basically one that "describes the general tendencies observed on wikis and other on-line communities; for example the life cycles of wikis, and people's behavior on them." To what extent are you cool with hosting that kind of content? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 07:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

==Citations==

:We have no ''requirement'' for citations, but if anyone feels the need to include them, especially if it supports a contentious statement, then by all means just add it as a basic inline url.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • _{[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]} • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

==Request account - real name==

I suggest to clarify this here: [[WikiIndex:Terms of Service]]

[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

: I have no idea, the request account was an anti-spam measure. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]