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 ::I guess I figured it is text so no one has to read it. It wasn't until you and Dilley told me to slow down, etc, that I realized anyone was bothered by it. I don't have a problem with relocating my comments if they are excessive. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 22:21, 22 June 2010 (EDT)
-I think DavidCary's [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk%3ABlocking_Policy&diff=70363&oldid=70362 original proposal] was much more objective and clear. (Note, Dilley suggests someone could revert the changes he made. I think someone should do so, but I feel I am [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3AThis_is_not_the_solution&diff=71649&oldid=71591 in danger of irking someone], even by posting this.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 21:42, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
+DavidCary's [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk%3ABlocking_Policy&diff=70363&oldid=70362 original proposal] begins by saying it is "is pretty much the same" as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy Wikipedia's block policy]. There was one important difference I noticed between WikiIndex' block policy, and Wikipedia's, but I don't want to mention it. If that is still the case the block policy shouldn't say it "is pretty much the same" Wikipedia. But I do think most of Wikipedia's block policy is along the lines of what is needed as a '''guide for sysops''', who are considering blocking a "troll" or editor who is "edit warring", disruptive/bickering/obnoxious/threatening/harassing, engaging in "gray spamming" (not obvious "spamming"), etc.
-:''"Don't irk our gentle editors"'' opens the door to blocking people simply because someone is "irked", not because any rule was broken. Perhaps this is the '''real''' rule, but I think there should be some sort of guide for sysops. The last time, a sysop followed Dilley's plan; they posted warnings, then blocked. But this block was not upheld by Dilley.[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 21:42, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
-:''"People may be blocked [...] to protect WikiIndex and its editors from harm."'' That sysop may have believed that they were protecting themselves from "harm". There is no definition of "harm" here. Using terms like "harm" and "nonviolence", when we are only interacting through computers, seems exaggerated and vague. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 21:42, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
+''"Don't irk our gentle editors"'' opens the door to blocking people simply because someone is "irked", not because any rule was broken. Perhaps this is the '''real''' rule, but I think there should be some sort of guide for sysops. At least one "sysop" did what Dilley's suggested; they posted warnings, then blocked. But this block was not upheld by Dilley (or maybe the owner).
-:Sysops need to know what is an appropriate reason for a block and what is not. The previous proposal addressed that more clearly. Dilley apparently prefers something "much different" from Wikipedia's block policy. I've read over both Dilley's and Cary's proposals, and any difference is not apparent unless it is really his intention to base this on a subjective feeling of being "irked". [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 21:42, 17 September 2009 (EDT)
+''"People may be blocked [...] to protect WikiIndex and its editors from harm."'' That sysop may have believed that they were protecting themselves from "harm". There is no definition of "harm" here. Using terms like "harm" and "nonviolence", when we are only interacting through computers, seems exaggerated and vague.
+Sysops need to know what is an appropriate reason for a block and what is not. I think [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy Wikipedia's block policy] is an excellent guide for sysops and they probably already know the important differences between WP's block policy and WikiIndex' block policy.
+[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 14:37, 23 June 2010 (EDT)