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Happy New Year!
WikiIndex wishlist What would you like to see happen here in 2017? How would you like to see the site change and grow? Koavf (talk) 09:19, 31 December 2016 (PST)
Semantic MediaWiki
Do folks have any ideas on how to show off our Semantic MediaWiki? ~~ MarkDilley
- I did not know that we are here to show of. --Manorainjan 07:53, 25 January 2017 (PST)
- Showing off What do you have in mind, Mark? From what I've seen, the use of SMW is pretty "under-the-hood" rather than on display as such... Do you want to have tools to query our site like at Wikidata? Koavf (talk) 08:58, 25 January 2017 (PST)
Manorainjan
It's time to stop this once and for all. Said user has a track record of pestering and at times even insulting other users, in fact an admin left for a while because of him. It seems to me like Manor acts as though he's some sort of "mini-admin" most of the time, and frankly I think he needs to be blocked. What do you guys think? --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 09:44, 25 January 2017 (PST)
- Guidelines I have always argued that a large part of the problem is that we don't have many guidelines. I don't like rules generally but if we don't have any kind of documentation to appeal to, someone can always say, "But I didn't know I couldn't do this". (Even if the infraction is pretty obvious social etiquette.) I think that we should be more explicit about what is expected and then when it's transgressed, it's easier to point out how and why there would be some consequence. Koavf (talk) 11:06, 25 January 2017 (PST)
- I am a known wiki person, but I will not reveal my name to avoid problems with the aforementioned user. I have had several problems with him and came to the conclusion that he is a stupid provocateur. He should be blocked from the whole internet. --46.166.148.154 10:33, 26 January 2017 (PST)
- Says someone who is [This IP is globally blocked over all WikiMedia-Projects: globally blocked over all WikiMedia-projects ;-) --Manorainjan 12:06, 26 January 2017 (PST)
- You know that I am using open proxies (which is blocked on Wikimedia for obvious reasons) to avoid you to come and stalk me under my house. ;)
Manorainjan - do you really think it is appropriate to accuse people of behaving like Nazis - as you did in your edit summary of this edit - http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal&oldid=194882. Frankly, that is truly despicable behaviour, and you, as a German should know better.
As to lack of 'policy' here on WikiIndex - I think this is a red herring. Let us be very clear here. Manor has had multiple, repeated WARNINGS over his conduct and behaviour. When Manor refuses to comply with very specific requests from not only long-term and highly valued editors - and then has the utter arrogance to refuse when told buy Admins and Crats - that, to me, and I would guess the whole of the wikisphere is ABSOLUTE grounds for banning. The fact that he was so belligerently arrogant to effectively force a Crat to step away from WikiIndex - that just shows his fundamental character! And that type of character is NOT helpful in building a wiki community. And since I took my lengthy sabbatical, I have discovered MANY subsequent editors to ask that Manor be blocked for his repeated abusive behaviour.
Quite frankly, if Manor is allowed to continue here on WikiIndex, then WikiIndex will eventually self-destruct. I am again frankly shocked over the very real STAGNATION which WikiIndex has succumbed to since Manors arrival. Sure, there are a few dedicated editors here who try to do their bit - but are overwhelmed by constant fire-fighting caused by Manor. But I have looked at many of arguably the most important entries here on WikiIndex - and I was shocked to find they had NOT been updated for nigh-on THREE YEARS!
In light of the above - and particularly the blatant racist comment by Manor - I will be blocking Manor for a period of 7 days. Manor needs to use these 7 days to honestly consider if he wishes to comply with the views and requests of the remainder of the WikiIndex community. If Manor tries to bypass his 7 day block - I will DOUBLE the duration of his block - and will concurrently double his block for each and every attempt he may use to bypass the block.
To the rest of the WikiIndex community, and especially MarkDilley - I expect you to support my action to block Manor for a short period of time. It would be nice if we put the interests of WikiIndex first, rather than letting someone stay who not only has destroyed the friendly community we once had here, but who has also failed to grasp the fundamental ethos of WikiIndex.
Comments, please. :-) Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 09:53, 27 January 2017 (PST)
Support ~~ MarkDilley
Support I'll be honest, I'm shocked Manor was unblocked the first time Hoof tried to ban him. He is truly pugnacious, as evidenced by the aforementioned racist comment and his post on my talk page. --This is MY book, and I'm gonna READ IT!!! 15:34, 27 January 2017 (PST)
Support Obviously. And I will definitely support any further action you take on this. Maybe I'm too naive or too much of a nice guy but I've experienced this on another wiki as well where someone makes what are definitely constructive and useful edits (and so is not solely a troll or vandal) but additionally is so consistently rude and off-putting that he has to go. Simply put, wikis are built around communities and if we have to lose one prolific and generally knowledgeable user because he pushes away everyone else through a combination of logical fallacies, abrasiveness, and martyrdom syndrome, then it's clear which one is preferable. I honestly don't want to lose him as an editor nor did I want to lose the valuable contributions of the other person at the other wiki I mentioned but for the well-being of the community even at the risk of a small set-back in the creation of content, it has to happen. I have been too rosy-eyed in the past and I still am--I sincerely hope that Manorainjan just cools off and looks at this objectively to see that his behavior is (willfully) off-putting and that others are not ganging up on him. Too many olive branches and too much pleading--please grow up and just be a decent person. Koavf (talk) 22:49, 27 January 2017 (PST)
Support --TheTVFan (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2017 (PST)
Strong support I've had issues with this user while I was editing as an IP. I'll point to just a few out of a whole string of examples. The user refused to allow me to change the Wiki.Wiki article to "inactive" after no wiki requests had been answered for over three months, and, even after I explained my reasoning, did the same thing again. In addition, he also refused to let me blank and request deletion of my own static IP talk page not once, not twice, but three times. He also reverted my edits to the WikiBridge article that classified the wiki "dead" - my reason being that despite technically still existing, a message was left on the Main page saying "This wiki no longer exists" and the supposed replacement site archived in the page history also has been closed. I could probably find more examples, but I think I've made my point. Users like this should not be allowed to contribute to any community-based environment, especially when they don't explain half of their edit reverts! I do agree though that more policy documentation is needed. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:41, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Give him a warning and see if that suffices. If not, revisit the issue later. He might not play well with others, but he puts in a lot of work on the project. With regard to racist remarks that may or may not have been made, bear in mind that with the election of Donald Trump, the era of political correctness is over. Leucosticte (talk) 22:44, 2 February 2017 (PST)
- Comment According to the users above, he has already had multiple warnings and temporary blocks, yet has refused to listen. Also, please keep politics out of community discussions. Many people, myself included, will disagree with your point of view. Thank you. OhNoitsJamie Talk 04:19, 3 February 2017 (PST)