WikiIndex talk:How do categories work

If you do it this way with that footer, then we don't need the tag template at all. We just put the categories in anywhere on the page. The tag template is only used when we want the category to show up on the page, the way John's been talking about. peace, TedErnst 21:32, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

Yes, that's right, use tag or category template when you want it to show in the article in addition to the bottom category section, else normal category command is fine --Raymond King | talk 17:34, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

Difference between tag and category

Is there any? robinp 17:14, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

No, in this wiki "tag" is a synonym for "category" and the "tag" and "category" templates are the same. We did that because "category" sounds heirarchical whereas "tag" is not. "tag" is also shorter and easier to use. But I am concerned that the extra confusion isn't worth it and we should just stick to category since that's the mediawiki standard. Thoughts welcome --Raymond King | talk 17:34, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)

It turns out tha Tags and Categories act diffently in some situations. Look at their use within the "Category:" namespace. MarkDilley | talk

What? How are they different? The templates are identical. Maybe we're needlessly confusing things by our naming. TedErnst | talk 15:44, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)

You and I had the experience of them working differently within a category. If you change them within a category you will see that they are or are not in the automated category bar at the bottom of the page. Also I thought they were an issue for the recursive issue? MarkDilley | talk

I don't think so. Template:Tag and Template:Category are exactly the same. They're both just sorthand for

[[:Category:TAGNAME|TAGNAME]] [[Category:TAGNAME]] 

TedErnst | talk 16:00, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)

I'm thinking we should eliminate the term "tag" altogether to cut down on confusion. I think it's birth was my fault :-( --Raymond King | talk 16:52, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)

Fine with me. Here's what I discovered about what Mark's talking about: Category talk:Lizzy TedErnst | talk 17:28, 16 Feb 2006 (EST)

tag/category news

Okay, Mark and I have been working on this and here's what we've done.

• The Template: Tag

  {{tag|CATEGORYNAME}}

  and Template: Category

  {{category|CATEGORYNAME}}

  commands now should work fine in-line. You can use these when wanting to link to a category from within the description. If eliminating one of these is your desire, I'd suggest eliminating category, because of the next point.

• The mediawiki category feature

  [[Category:CATEGORYNAME]]

  can be used for any tags that do not appear in the text. The suggestion is to use this instead of a bulleted list of tags. The bulleted list of tags is not needed because all categories for a page show up in the footer anyway.

• • This is where I propose placing above the template code, to get these types of categoriy in the footer before the template category, to push back redudant categories in the footer. (I like the redundancy in this instance, just want to bury it a little to highlight other info) MarkDilley | talk

How's this sound? Is it clear? Is it a good idea? TedErnst | talk 22:27, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)

Bulleted list of tags is not necessary, but if someone wants to use them, there should be no problem with that. MarkDilley | talk

That's fine with me, but we need to decie which one to use for the add a wiki boilerplate. TedErnst | talk 22:33, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)