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→‎Open proxies: no IP block exemption privilege, apparently
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::::I agree with "amateur." There are professionals engaged in eliminating or sanctioning pedophilia, active and otherwise, and they will not be operating like those using the open proxies. For brevity, I'll call them "pedo-trolls." What that IP study showed was that the only people using open proxies to access WikiIndex, in the last three months, were the pedo-trolls. That's an argument for banning open proxies. That's what the WMF has done, though they don't necessarily enforce the policy, i.e., they often wait until there is actual vandalism/spam/disruption from an open proxy range, but then they block the entire range.
::::I agree with "amateur." There are professionals engaged in eliminating or sanctioning pedophilia, active and otherwise, and they will not be operating like those using the open proxies. For brevity, I'll call them "pedo-trolls." What that IP study showed was that the only people using open proxies to access WikiIndex, in the last three months, were the pedo-trolls. That's an argument for banning open proxies. That's what the WMF has done, though they don't necessarily enforce the policy, i.e., they often wait until there is actual vandalism/spam/disruption from an open proxy range, but then they block the entire range.
::::That sometimes catches an innocent user, -- or possibly innocent --, and so there is the user privilege, IP block exemption. Easy enough to add the privilege for the rare case. Email is not blocked by IP blocking. However, a sincere user may be unable to create an account, that's different. In that case, what I've recommended is that the user go to a library or otherwise use different unblocked access, create the account, enable and confirm email, and then it becomes possible to request IP block exemption by email, for a named account. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:04, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
::::That sometimes catches an innocent user, -- or possibly innocent --, and so there is the user privilege, IP block exemption. Easy enough to add the privilege for the rare case. Email is not blocked by IP blocking. However, a sincere user may be unable to create an account, that's different. In that case, what I've recommended is that the user go to a library or otherwise use different unblocked access, create the account, enable and confirm email, and then it becomes possible to request IP block exemption by email, for a named account. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:04, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
::::Apparently this wiki doesn't have the user privilege IP block exemption. IP soft blocks might still be usable. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 15:11, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
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