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[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Abd&curid=42613&diff=177267&oldid=177257 That] really made my day. Unfortunately, there are some who [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AWikiIndex&diff=1297680&oldid=658264 think] that merely tolerating someone's presence and allowing facts to be documented means that the person has dominated the wiki. I tend to agree more with [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation&diff=prev&oldid=1073819 AD's sentiments], except that I would go even further than he did, and say that not only should people not be banned for posting essays (in namespaces, such as an Essay: namespace of a wiki allegedly devoted to rational argumentation, where such essays are considered on-topic), but that under those kinds of circumstances, the essays shouldn't be deleted. This is a wiki devoted to wikis, wiki people, and wiki ideas, so comprehensively accomplishing that mission requires that controversial wikis, wiki people, and wiki ideas be documented as well in mainspace articles. Avoiding bias requires that everyone at least be able to tell their side of the story without being blocked, as long as they avoid being disruptive or uncivil. Cheers, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:17, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Abd&curid=42613&diff=177267&oldid=177257 That] really made my day. Unfortunately, there are some who [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AWikiIndex&diff=1297680&oldid=658264 think] that merely tolerating someone's presence and allowing facts to be documented means that the person has dominated the wiki. I tend to agree more with [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation&diff=prev&oldid=1073819 AD's sentiments], except that I would go even further than he did, and say that not only should people not be banned for posting essays (in namespaces, such as an Essay: namespace of a wiki allegedly devoted to rational argumentation, where such essays are considered on-topic), but that under those kinds of circumstances, the essays shouldn't be deleted. This is a wiki devoted to wikis, wiki people, and wiki ideas, so comprehensively accomplishing that mission requires that controversial wikis, wiki people, and wiki ideas be documented as well in mainspace articles. Avoiding bias requires that everyone at least be able to tell their side of the story without being blocked, as long as they avoid being disruptive or uncivil. Cheers, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:17, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


== Scott Schaeffer ==
== Scott Schaefer ==


Perhaps [[Scott Schaeffer]] meant well. He had some possibly productive businesses by which he sought to support himself and [http://nathania.org/wiki/File:Rhonda-Schaefer1.jpg the woman] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/56766805@N05/7256407420/in/photostream/ he calls] "the swetest, hotest, sexiest, most beautiful wife in Dallas...in the world". Had he been unemployed, he wouldn't have mentioned a commercial business (and therefore wouldn't have seemed as spammy). Had he chosen to be an employee rather than an entrepreneur, he'd be less likely to be accused of spamming, because he would have gained little or nothing by promoting his company. But unemployed people, and non-entrepreneurs, and people who hold back information about their businesses, are not necessarily superior to others.
Perhaps [[Scott Schaefer]] meant well. He had some possibly productive businesses by which he sought to support himself and [http://nathania.org/wiki/File:Rhonda-Schaefer1.jpg the woman] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/56766805@N05/7256407420/in/photostream/ he calls] "the swetest, hotest, sexiest, most beautiful wife in Dallas...in the world". Had he been unemployed, he wouldn't have mentioned a commercial business (and therefore wouldn't have seemed as spammy). Had he chosen to be an employee rather than an entrepreneur, he'd be less likely to be accused of spamming, because he would have gained little or nothing by promoting his company. But unemployed people, and non-entrepreneurs, and people who hold back information about their businesses, are not necessarily superior to others.


True, his [[LexingtonWiki]] didn't live up to the hyperbole (or hasn't lived up to it yet), but few ambitious projects do; certainly they often take a lot more work than expected, and there are plenty of distractions. Maybe his wife distracted him with all those skimpy outfits she wears in the hot Dallas climate; who knows. I used to think that, because of how emotionally, financially, and otherwise distracting it can be to be in a relationship, I should stay single until I finished developing [[Inclupedia]], but loneliness can be as distracting as having a woman around, so I think I've broken even, perhaps.
True, his [[LexingtonWiki]] didn't live up to the hyperbole (or hasn't lived up to it yet), but few ambitious projects do; certainly they often take a lot more work than expected, and there are plenty of distractions. Maybe his wife distracted him with all those skimpy outfits she wears in the hot Dallas climate; who knows. I used to think that, because of how emotionally, financially, and otherwise distracting it can be to be in a relationship, I should stay single until I finished developing [[Inclupedia]], but loneliness can be as distracting as having a woman around, so I think I've broken even, perhaps.
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Often planned projects are abandoned when one supersedes them with an even better or more important idea. Maybe that's what happened here. Or the person simply gives in to procrastination, because there's no one around to give him the push (and/or assistance) he needs to move forward.
Often planned projects are abandoned when one supersedes them with an even better or more important idea. Maybe that's what happened here. Or the person simply gives in to procrastination, because there's no one around to give him the push (and/or assistance) he needs to move forward.


Anyway, he probably is somewhat of a spammer but maybe his intent wasn't so bad. Plus he blessed our wiki with pics of his (somewhat) hot wife; beauty makes the world a better place. I think he has done enough, simply by creating a non-Wikia wiki that shows evidence of at one time being an incubator of ambitious wiki ideas, to be regarded as a [[wiki person]]. At any rate, [[User talk:ScottSchaefer]] should probably be restored on the general principle that talk pages should remain for the sake of [[transparency]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:34, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Anyway, he probably is somewhat of a spammer but maybe he wasn't all that harmful; he was significantly less persistent and annoying than the spambots we deal with regularly, because he put work into developing the pages manually. Plus he blessed our wiki with pics of his (somewhat) hot wife; beauty makes the world a better place. I think he has done enough, simply by creating a non-Wikia wiki that shows evidence of at one time being an incubator of ambitious wiki ideas, to be regarded as a [[wiki person]]. At any rate, [[User talk:ScottSchaefer]] should probably be restored on the general principle that talk pages should remain for the sake of [[transparency]].
 
Of course, I am somewhat biased because I have some things in common with this user, such as a penchant for ambitious wiki projects (which haven't yet come to full fruition) and delighting in showing off my wife's body to the world and publicly complimenting her beauty. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:34, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
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