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::: Sometimes? ;-) For every work there is a competence to aquire that makes it easier if not possible at all. [http://www.pmsa.de/NonviolentCommunication/ NVC] and sorry for late reply, I was busy with "work" ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | ::: Sometimes? ;-) For every work there is a competence to aquire that makes it easier if not possible at all. [http://www.pmsa.de/NonviolentCommunication/ NVC] and sorry for late reply, I was busy with "work" ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
* 了解!--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 23:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | * 了解!--[[User:Msnhinet8|Msnhinet8]] ([[User talk:Msnhinet8|talk]]) 23:39, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | ||
===How community works=== | |||
* [[Meatball:WhyWikiWorks]] is what I was so poorly trying to get to. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | |||
<blockquote> "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." is one of seven quotes inscribed on the walls at the gravesite of John F. Kennedy at Arlington National Cemetery. </blockquote> | |||
In that spirit it does not bring forward community feeling by howling that one is not part of it but by active participation and invitation for others to participate. Now, on the one hand You are acting [http://languageofcompassion.com/resources/take-a-look-at-kellys-book/#sample%20chapters 'nice'] by welcoming new users and telling <b>them</b> to [[BeBold]]. But on several occasions where I acted semi-bold and discussed a change with a 'senior' user You where howling [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Hoof_Hearted&diff=179561&oldid=179539#Template:Inactive 'I am not involved in the conversation']. So, what I did was [http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Template:Inactive to shift this topic in front] and invited the community to discuss it there. Now the question arises why didn't You do that in the first place, being more senior and obviously feeling the need for participation showing me HowTo CommunityCate? Now, I went further and [http://wikiindex.org/User_talk:Msnhinet8 informed other Users who obviously did not take note of this discussion]. Rather than supporting the unfinished discussion You started to discourage my efforts by belittling the value of discussion calling then 'endless' which is an euphemism for useless and without result and contradicting discussion with 'work' as a symbol for productivity. Also You potentially started a separation of 'me' and what I do (endless discussion) and what You call 'we' and what actually You personally allegedly are doing. this is neither 'wok' AKA little edits here and there nor promoting community AKA discussion for finding solutions with which everybody can live nicely. | |||
What You got to do now is, to find Your inner motivation what drove You to disturb constructive discussions and then redirect this motivation into a more productive strategy that supports the progress of a community. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 13:34, 14 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Ohai Mark == | == Ohai Mark == | ||
Sincerely, Johnny. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 23:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | Sincerely, Johnny. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 23:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | ||