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 "Entries in WikiIndex shouldn't exist for the sole purpose of defaming or promoting a site, though: this is neither free hosting space for other wiki communities nor is it a message board for gripes and sniping about problems with other wikis." What is the solution when one encounters a listing that solely defames or promotes a site? Deletion so that the page can be rewritten from scratch, or editing to add balancing information so that other points of view have due weight? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 04:54, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
 :'''Deletion''' I'd imagine that we should rewrite before delete because if nothing else maybe an infobox would be correct. I would play fast and loose with tone--this isn't an academic encyclopedia or a newspaper, so we don't have to have professional writing. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 04:56, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
+:The biggest problem with deletion is that it hides the material from users. Revision deletion is avoided on Wikipedia because it can create suspicion of censorship. However, page deletion does the same. Traditionally, on Wikipedia, anyone can get deleted page content by request to an administrator, if the administrator is willing to serve in this way. However, L. was a proponent of WP:PWD, pure wiki deletion, which is blanking with a note. (And possibly protection.) It was a great idea that Wikipedia ignored. If there is a wiki page here, with problematic content, normally it would seem that it could be blanked as an immediate action. It could be replaced with a speedy deletion tag. A simple infobox might be substituted.
+:One of the problems is lack of rapid attention to speedy deletion tags. Wikis work well when there are administrators who regularly watch for such. They work well when there are process pages to handle specific kinds of requests. (And admins can have those pages watchlisted and receive email notifications.) An admin, seeing a speedy deletion tag, should ideally make a decision: remove the tag, delete, or refer the topic for discussion. Generally, any user may remove a speedy deletion tag -- not necessarily anonymous users --, but there is then, on Wikiversity, and other wikis, a "proposed deletion" tag, and those tags are not to be removed by a page creator. There are various ways of handling the situation, but *efficiency is important.* On Wikiversity, we have many alternatives to deletion. As an example that might apply here, if I see an inappropriate wiki listing, I *could* move it to user space. That leaves it visible. It turns out that people don't get nearly as upset by a page move like that as they do about deletion!
+:If I see what I consider inappropriate discussion of a wiki or wikiperson, I could move it to the Talk page, or create a subpage with attribution to the author. The real issue, though, is how much detail we want to encourage on WikiIndex.
+:I don't know if WikiIndex has RevHide available. It should. Some content should not remain visible to the public. Outing is an example. Libel can be one. RevHide provides an alternative to page deletion.
+:Rewrite is the classic solution (WP:SOFIXIT). However, it can be a lot of work. It's quick to blank a page and it leaves the content available. Then there can be discussion and possible compromise.