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::I'm personally not very sanguine on the idea discussion belongs on main pages, and even the discussion pages can turn into massive slapfights, but if we must do this, then putting it in it's own area seems like a fair compromise. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 16:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC) | ::I'm personally not very sanguine on the idea discussion belongs on main pages, and even the discussion pages can turn into massive slapfights, but if we must do this, then putting it in it's own area seems like a fair compromise. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 16:33, 6 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::"Discussion" is probably the wrong word to use, since in the wikisphere that word has a particular meaning distinct from the kinds of commentary that would appear on mainspace pages. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC) | :::"Discussion" is probably the wrong word to use, since in the wikisphere that word has a particular meaning distinct from the kinds of commentary that would appear on mainspace pages. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 17:46, 6 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::The page is called, in MediaWiki, the Talk page, but then it's displayed, commonly, as Discussion. On Wikiversity, we do allow some level of discussion on mainspace pages, but it should be signed. Otherwise someone needs to fix it in some way. More often, in a resource that is developed, there is no signed material in the mainspace page, because none of it is apparent opinion. Now, it might actually be opinion, but this is what editors work out. So, more often, opinion shows up on the Talk page attached, and the tradition is to sign things there. It's attributed. If that becomes a problem, on Wikiversity, we create subpages. If people are having a flame war, as an admin, I'd separate them. Because subpages can be created with -- say in this case -- Abd's opinion about or experience with [[RationalWiki]] which could be [[RationalWiki/Abd]], then that page is intrinsically my opinion. If that opinion is harmful to the wiki, or wrong, or whatever, that can be pointed out on [[Talk:RationalWiki/Abd]]. And I can, if I like, ignore that commentary and so can most users. But I would not allow users to change my opinion page without my consent. (The page would have a notice at the top that this is my essay.) There could be a whole family of these. I'm saying from experience that this does not create major flame wars, the opposite. Every position can be fully expressed, as long as it, itself, is not harmful to the wiki or illegal. Most people just say what they have to say and then stop. I.e., given a context where there is nothing to fight over, they stop fighting. Exceptions are rare and become quite obvious. A need for admin interference is rare. | |||
::::That such opinion pages exist about a wiki can be shown on the index page. On Wikiversity, we neutrally link them from mainspace resources. "There is discussion of this wiki on [[/subpage name]]." If there is more than one such subpage, we may create an essay subpage to link to all of them. Like all WMF wikis, Wikiversity has a neutrality policy, only we handle it through inclusion and organization rather than through the Wikipedian attempt to exclude what is not Neutral Point of View. It is that encyclopedic goal which leads to endless conflict. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 20:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
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