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:::'''Policy''' There are two pages that were created on [[Vanity wiki]]s and [[WikiIndex:Vanity wiki]]s. Why? A glossary entry would be reasonable if I had ever seen this term anywhere other than here in a recent discussion and a policy page would be useful if there was some agreed policy. Nathan can just make userspace drafts and some of his recent creations have been moved to his userspace for this purpose. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 01:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
:::'''Policy''' There are two pages that were created on [[Vanity wiki]]s and [[WikiIndex:Vanity wiki]]s. Why? A glossary entry would be reasonable if I had ever seen this term anywhere other than here in a recent discussion and a policy page would be useful if there was some agreed policy. Nathan can just make userspace drafts and some of his recent creations have been moved to his userspace for this purpose. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 01:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::::There are two separate issues, which L. conflated. There is the term "vanity wiki," which he did not invent. That's a glossary entry. Then there is the issue of a WikiIndex policy, and L. was claiming that the defacto policy was that such pages were to be deleted. I don't think so, but that's not the point here. If the content of the two pages was the same, then there was certainly no harm in deleting one. There is no requirement, to my understanding, that policy pages be drafted in user space. The difference is this: in user space, the user will be allowed defacto admin privileges, and may accept other edits or not, whereas in WikiIndex space, anyone may edit it (the same as in mainspace), there isn't such a special author privilege. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:24, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::::There are two separate issues, which L. conflated. There is the term "vanity wiki," which he did not invent. That's a glossary entry. Then there is the issue of a WikiIndex policy, and L. was claiming that the defacto policy was that such pages were to be deleted. I don't think so, but that's not the point here. If the content of the two pages was the same, then there was certainly no harm in deleting one. There is no requirement, to my understanding, that policy pages be drafted in user space. The difference is this: in user space, the user will be allowed defacto admin privileges, and may accept other edits or not, whereas in WikiIndex space, anyone may edit it (the same as in mainspace), there isn't such a special author privilege. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:24, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::::'''Policy''' It's not required but as you know, Nathan is making proposed policy pages and marking things for deletion to prove a point. It's just disruptive and isn't making this a better site or one that's more useful for navigating the wikisphere. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 01:33, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yes. I agree. Nathan often, however, identifies weak points in policy and practice. We can take advantage of the opportunity and, in fact, he may even help. Dealing with Nathan can be frustrating. Having clear concepts of policy and guidelines helps. Steady on. Meanwhile, I'm treating this page a bit like a Deletion Request page, and I am going to add a proposed close here. (This page has no official status, this is just an exploration.) --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
:*'''Proposed close.''' Deletion harmless. Undelete upon request from any established user and review page for lack of harm, edit if necessary. I am not requesting undeletion. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
== [[Ben Weiss]] ==
== [[Ben Weiss]] ==
*03:56, 25 December 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[Ben Weiss]] (content before blanking was: "<nowiki>{{User infobox |name = Ben Weiss |image =  http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb1393077475/common/avatars/thumb/1/14/5436510.png/150px-5436510.png.jpg |gender = {{tag|Male Wiki People|Male}} |mother tongue = {{language|en|N...")</nowiki>
*03:56, 25 December 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[Ben Weiss]] (content before blanking was: "<nowiki>{{User infobox |name = Ben Weiss |image =  http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb1393077475/common/avatars/thumb/1/14/5436510.png/150px-5436510.png.jpg |gender = {{tag|Male wiki people|Male}} |mother tongue = {{language|en|N...")</nowiki>
::This was apparently a bio of an asserted wikiperson. Policy on this is unclear. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::This was apparently a bio of an asserted wikiperson. Policy on this is unclear. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
== [[Loopa23]] ==
== [[Loopa23]] ==
*03:55, 25 December 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[Loopa23]] (content before blanking was: "<nowiki>{{User infobox |name = Loopa23 |image = 300px |mother tongue = {{language|en|N}} |DoB = 21 November 1999 (age 14) |nationality = American |home wiki = Loopa23 Wiki |other names = Loopa, Loop, Sp...")</nowiki>
*03:55, 25 December 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[Loopa23]] (content before blanking was: "<nowiki>{{User infobox |name = Loopa23 |image = 300px |mother tongue = {{language|en|N}} |DoB = 21 November 1999 (age 14) |nationality = American |home wiki = Loopa23 Wiki |other names = Loopa, Loop, Sp...")</nowiki>
::Underage bio. When deleting pages, check for incoming links. I delinked one. A redlink will invite recreation. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::Underage bio. When deleting pages, check for incoming links. I delinked one. A redlink will invite recreation. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
*03:55, 25 December 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[Billy Arrowsmith]] (content before blanking was: "<nowiki>{{User infobox |name = William "Billy" Arrowsmith |image = MrBlonde267.jpg |Gender = {{tag|Male Wiki People|Male}} |Mother tongue = {{language|en|N}} |Residence = NY |Nationality = {{tag|United States|American}} |DoB = 23...")</nowiki>
*03:55, 25 December 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[Billy Arrowsmith]] (content before blanking was: "<nowiki>{{User infobox |name = William "Billy" Arrowsmith |image = MrBlonde267.jpg |Gender = {{tag|Male wiki people|Male}} |Mother tongue = {{language|en|N}} |Residence = NY |Nationality = {{tag|United States of America|American}} |DoB = 23...")</nowiki>
::unknown bio. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::unknown bio. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
== [[WikiBoy]] ==
== [[WikiBoy]] ==
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::Newgon Wiki would be controversial, for sure, but I have never seen illegal content there. Definitely some *text* that is NSFW. As mentioned elsewhere, much worse on Commons. It's old, the wiki is not active, but is still up. Possible historical advocacy. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::Newgon Wiki would be controversial, for sure, but I have never seen illegal content there. Definitely some *text* that is NSFW. As mentioned elsewhere, much worse on Commons. It's old, the wiki is not active, but is still up. Possible historical advocacy. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:03, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
== [[GlWiki]] ==
== [[GlWiki]] ==
*05:57, 21 November 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[GlWiki]] (content was: "<nowiki>{{Wiki |name=GlWiki |URL=http://web.archive.org/web/20071221033453/http://www.childlover.org/index.php/Main_Page |logo=100px |wikinode URL=No |status=Dead |language=English |editmode=OpenEdit |engine=MediaWiki |maint...")</nowiki>
*05:57, 21 November 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[GlWiki]] (content was: "<nowiki>{{Wiki |name=GlWiki |URL=https://web.archive.org/web/20071221033453/http://www.childlover.org/index.php/Main_Page |logo=100px |wikinode URL=No |status=Dead |language=English |editmode=OpenEdit |engine=MediaWiki |maint...")</nowiki>
::This was an active wiki. See [http://web.archive.org/web/20070610084655/http://www.childlover.org/index.php/Special:Statistics]. Glwiki stands for Girl Love wiki.[http://web.archive.org/web/20071221033453/http://www.childlover.org/index.php/Main_Page] The current domain displays as a web forgery. Historical information on this wiki could fit the WikiIndex mission. Possible historical advocacy (I didn't see any yet.)
::This was an active wiki. See [https://web.archive.org/web/20070610084655/http://www.childlover.org/index.php/Special:Statistics]. Glwiki stands for Girl Love wiki.[https://web.archive.org/web/20071221033453/http://www.childlover.org/index.php/Main_Page] The current domain displays as a web forgery. Historical information on this wiki could fit the WikiIndex mission. Possible historical advocacy (I didn't see any yet.)
== [[BoyWiki]] ==
== [[BoyWiki]] ==
*05:56, 21 November 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[BoyWiki]] (content was: "<nowiki>{{Wiki |URL              = http://en.boywiki.org |logo              = 125px |recentchanges URL = http://en.boywiki.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges |wikinode URL      = https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:WikiNode...")</nowiki>
*05:56, 21 November 2014 Koavf (Talk | contribs) deleted page [[BoyWiki]] (content was: "<nowiki>{{Wiki |URL              = http://en.boywiki.org |logo              = 125px |recentchanges URL = http://en.boywiki.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges |wikinode URL      = https://www.boywiki.org/en/BoyWiki:WikiNode...")</nowiki>