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:::I don't get it. In the case of suicide, the person who is directly affected is in a position to make the decision. The resource actually promoted safety by encouraging methods such as pentobarbital that were safer to would-be rescuers than, say, carbon monoxide poisoning. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 03:21, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | :::I don't get it. In the case of suicide, the person who is directly affected is in a position to make the decision. The resource actually promoted safety by encouraging methods such as pentobarbital that were safer to would-be rescuers than, say, carbon monoxide poisoning. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 03:21, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::'''"I don't get it."''' Yes. And when L. doesn't get it, the world is wrong, and he will tell them at great length and with high persistence. He was not ordered to "disengage" on Wikiversity, he was not threatened with a block. If he was, he'd see it on his User talk page. I'm giving up trying to explain to him, it goes nowhere. Our topic here is "WikiIndex entries." There are some proposals, that might be turned into guidelines or policy. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | :::'''"I don't get it."''' Yes. And when L. doesn't get it, the world is wrong, and he will tell them at great length and with high persistence. He was not ordered to "disengage" on Wikiversity, he was not threatened with a block. If he was, he'd see it on his User talk page. I'm giving up trying to explain to him, it goes nowhere. Our topic here is "WikiIndex entries." There are some proposals, that might be turned into guidelines or policy. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 14:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::'''Argumentation''' it should be obvious, to anyone who accepts the ideas of inalienable rights and a right to life, that no one has a right to kill themselves. I don't think you understand that not every page is an excuse for argumentation. I've [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk:Prohibited_content&diff=prev&oldid=186882 pointed this out] before but it [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal&diff=prev&oldid=186776 fell on deaf ears then], so I'm going to be explicit about it now: WikiIndex isn't your platform for discussing having sex with children or killing yourself. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 17:30, 12 January 2015 (UTC) | |||
'''Commentary''' For what it's worth, I agree completely that WikiIndex shouldn't just be empirical--we give a better impression of the WikiSphere by discussing things more colloquially (in addition to hard numbers). [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 18:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | '''Commentary''' For what it's worth, I agree completely that WikiIndex shouldn't just be empirical--we give a better impression of the WikiSphere by discussing things more colloquially (in addition to hard numbers). [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 18:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:Yes. That is, we are not *only* a directory, with basic wiki information. However, the question is how to handle this "colloquial" discussion -- by which I think Koavf means "informal." My suggestion is this: mainspace pages are places to hold information about a wiki. What is placed on such pages should not be mere opinion or judgment, generally. I can think of exceptions, but they all fall into something that, if push comes to shove, is a collective assessment, made for protective purpose. Such as "covers ideas that are offensive to many," "NSFW," etc. In line with this is our practice of not signing comments on mainspace pages. They are not supposed to be "personal comments," but rather text added in service of the community purpose, anticipating consensus. I am not suggesting requiring the full panalopy of verifiability standards used by Wikipedia, though their guidelines can sometimes be useful. | :Yes. That is, we are not *only* a directory, with basic wiki information. However, the question is how to handle this "colloquial" discussion -- by which I think Koavf means "informal." My suggestion is this: mainspace pages are places to hold information about a wiki. What is placed on such pages should not be mere opinion or judgment, generally. I can think of exceptions, but they all fall into something that, if push comes to shove, is a collective assessment, made for protective purpose. Such as "covers ideas that are offensive to many," "NSFW," etc. In line with this is our practice of not signing comments on mainspace pages. They are not supposed to be "personal comments," but rather text added in service of the community purpose, anticipating consensus. I am not suggesting requiring the full panalopy of verifiability standards used by Wikipedia, though their guidelines can sometimes be useful. | ||