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:'''Reasons''' Statuses exist just as helpful guides. If you can think of more categories that would be useful, that's fine. If a community stops editing because it peters out, that's one thing--someone else can come along and begin editing. If a community stops editing because of a technical restriction, that's quite another. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 03:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | :'''Reasons''' Statuses exist just as helpful guides. If you can think of more categories that would be useful, that's fine. If a community stops editing because it peters out, that's one thing--someone else can come along and begin editing. If a community stops editing because of a technical restriction, that's quite another. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 03:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
'''Consensus''' To edit one article in the [[BRD cycle|BRD]] style is one thing, to ignore discussion of community another: [[Category talk:Wiki Status]]. If You think there should be 'Locked' as Status, why don't You bring it in the discussion? I had proposed "Halted" long ago. So, let us continue there. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | '''Consensus''' To edit one article in the [[BRD cycle|BRD]] style is one thing, to ignore discussion of community another: [[:Category talk:Wiki Status]]. If You think there should be 'Locked' as Status, why don't You bring it in the discussion? I had proposed "Halted" long ago. So, let us continue there. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 10:53, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
:'''Consensus''' I didn't create [[:Category:Locked]]. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 15:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | :'''Consensus''' I didn't create [[:Category:Locked]]. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 15:51, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
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:'''Status''' It already ''was'' a status of a sort: it just wasn't categorized as one. As long as it exists, it should be categorized properly for navigation. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:36, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | :'''Status''' It already ''was'' a status of a sort: it just wasn't categorized as one. As long as it exists, it should be categorized properly for navigation. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 19:36, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
2010 this category was created without asking anybody or even trying to introduce it to the community or giving it a definition and only for the purpose to mark a very limited set of 8 wikis of the WikiMedia foundation. This was already a mistake. It was ignoring the requirements of well functioning database and ignoring the community of this wiki. You did not correct this mistake, You engraved it. The definition which You created aligned the use on [[MeatballWiki]] and ignored the original use for which it was created. So You created more confusion and contradiction. And now You are doing Your very best to defend that rather than trying to understand that it should be coordinated with the rest of us. You also made no attempt at all to introduce Your change to the community. On 17 October 2013 You assigned the not defined status Locked and did not care that it was no member of WikiStatus. In August we had this discussion [[Category talk:Wiki Status]] which You took part in shortly about another aspect. You know pretty well that it was not finalised. You also did not contribute in a fashion to finalize it, did not make a suggestion that could have helped to solve the puzzle. You saw my Invitation2Invitations which is pointing to this unfinished discussion and actively went on to ignore this discussion for doing YOUR own thing in spite of it. If I would do such things and mess up WikiStatus matters just according to my discretion I think I would get blocked again. Your mission statement "I like the idea of fostering community between wikis and the larger movement for free and open culture..." is not reflected in Your edits here. Or should that be translated as: "I like the idea but will not actively contribute to it." ? | 2010 this category was created without asking anybody or even trying to introduce it to the community or giving it a definition and only for the purpose to mark a very limited set of 8 wikis of the WikiMedia foundation. This was already a mistake. It was ignoring the requirements of well functioning database and ignoring the community of this wiki. You did not correct this mistake, You engraved it. The definition which You created aligned the use on [[MeatballWiki]] and ignored the original use for which it was created. So You created more confusion and contradiction. And now You are doing Your very best to defend that rather than trying to understand that it should be coordinated with the rest of us. You also made no attempt at all to introduce Your change to the community. On 17 October 2013 You assigned the not defined status Locked and did not care that it was no member of WikiStatus. In August we had this discussion [[:Category talk:Wiki Status]] which You took part in shortly about another aspect. You know pretty well that it was not finalised. You also did not contribute in a fashion to finalize it, did not make a suggestion that could have helped to solve the puzzle. You saw my Invitation2Invitations which is pointing to this unfinished discussion and actively went on to ignore this discussion for doing YOUR own thing in spite of it. If I would do such things and mess up WikiStatus matters just according to my discretion I think I would get blocked again. Your mission statement "I like the idea of fostering community between wikis and the larger movement for free and open culture..." is not reflected in Your edits here. Or should that be translated as: "I like the idea but will not actively contribute to it." ? | ||
:'''Okay''' You need to calm down. I was busy in August and didn't get around to those discussions except (as you pointed out) briefly as an aside. This site is an informal repository of wikis: sometimes, a strict definition is not possible or useful or necessary. If you want one here, fine. I respect that you're trying to bring more structure here but you're frankly being rude to me and it's not going to accomplish anything positive. Take a minute and think about how you want to act toward me: I haven't done anything disrespectful to you. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | :'''Okay''' You need to calm down. I was busy in August and didn't get around to those discussions except (as you pointed out) briefly as an aside. This site is an informal repository of wikis: sometimes, a strict definition is not possible or useful or necessary. If you want one here, fine. I respect that you're trying to bring more structure here but you're frankly being rude to me and it's not going to accomplish anything positive. Take a minute and think about how you want to act toward me: I haven't done anything disrespectful to you. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
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I may be more ''direct'' in my style of discussion than many people like. But I do not want to engage in an edit war with anybody, admin or not. Regarding the Category:Locked I would prefer to remove it completely and replace the status of the 8-10 Wikis by C:Dormant for now. And the discussion about the status question should continue. If You think Locked is a good term for any status You could bring it in this discussion with supporting arguments. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | I may be more ''direct'' in my style of discussion than many people like. But I do not want to engage in an edit war with anybody, admin or not. Regarding the Category:Locked I would prefer to remove it completely and replace the status of the 8-10 Wikis by C:Dormant for now. And the discussion about the status question should continue. If You think Locked is a good term for any status You could bring it in this discussion with supporting arguments. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:34, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
:'''Done''' [[Category_talk:Wiki_Status#Category:Locked]]. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:47, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | :'''Done''' [[:Category_talk:Wiki_Status#Category:Locked]]. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 21:47, 9 October 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns == | == Request for [[WikiIndex:ServerMove|ServerMove]] concerns == | ||
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Now, in case of Y. my edit was: | Now, in case of Y. my edit was: | ||
<nowiki>{{language|en|N}} | <nowiki>{{language|en|N}} | ||
Summary: Please adjust and add as appropriate, see [[Category:EnglishSpeakers]] and [[Category:Language]]. | Summary: Please adjust and add as appropriate, see [[Category:EnglishSpeakers]] and [[Category:Language]].</nowiki> | ||
His user page started English. If that is not his first language, he can change that himself. There is not need whatsoever for You to do anything there. And there is no danger ahead that forces You to take immediate action. | His user page started English. If that is not his first language, he can change that himself. There is not need whatsoever for You to do anything there. And there is no danger ahead that forces You to take immediate action. | ||