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==Parameters== | ==Parameters== | ||
How about an ontolgy of this metadata - expressed in [[:Category:Resource Description Framework|RDF]] it could be harvested from the wikis so people don't always have to update the pages at WikiIndex? | How about an ontolgy of this metadata - expressed in [[:Category:Resource Description Framework|RDF]] it could be harvested from the wikis so people don't always have to update the pages at WikiIndex? | ||
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;wiki_recentchanges_URL: URL | ;wiki_recentchanges_URL: URL | ||
;wiki_wikinode_URL: URL | ;wiki_wikinode_URL: URL | ||
;wiki_status: tag ([[:Category:Wiki | ;wiki_status: tag ([[:Category:Wiki status]]) - selected set | ||
;wiki_language: tag/ISO-code ([[:Category:Wiki | ;wiki_language: tag/ISO-code ([[:Category:Wiki language]]) - selected set | ||
;wiki_editmode: tag ([[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]]) - selected set | ;wiki_editmode: tag ([[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]]) - selected set | ||
;wiki_engine: tag ([[:Category:Wiki | ;wiki_engine: tag ([[:Category:Wiki engine]]) - relatively open set | ||
;wiki_maintopic: tag ([[:Category:Wiki Topic]]) - open | ;wiki_maintopic: tag ([[:Category:Wiki Topic]]) - open | ||
;''wiki_name'': tag ([[:Category:Wiki]]) - open (''this is an optional parameter. If not set the article name is used as wiki name.'') | ;''wiki_name'': tag ([[:Category:Wiki]]) - open (''this is an optional parameter. If not set the article name is used as wiki name.'') | ||
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==wiki_name== | ==wiki_name== | ||
Smiddle, can you tell me what [http:// | Smiddle, can you tell me what [http://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Template%3AWiki&diff=32303&oldid=32019 this edit] does? Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:56, 16 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
:If you don't want the link to show as the page name. Example: The page's name is "A", but you want to show the link as "B". then, you enter "|wiki_name=B". [[User:85.30.155.6|85.30.155.6]] 09:53, 17 October 2006 (EDT) | :If you don't want the link to show as the page name. Example: The page's name is "A", but you want to show the link as "B". then, you enter "|wiki_name=B". [[User:85.30.155.6|85.30.155.6]] 09:53, 17 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
::Sorry, forgot to login. – [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Search/Smiddle|S]]·[[Special:Allpages/Smiddle|A]]</small> 09:54, 17 October 2006 (EDT) | ::Sorry, forgot to login. – [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]·[[Special:Search/Smiddle|S]]·[[Special:Allpages/Smiddle|A]]</small> 09:54, 17 October 2006 (EDT) | ||
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::::: Thanks, John, for your quick reply. --[[Wolf Peuker|Peu]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 15:00, 29 October 2006 (EST) | ::::: Thanks, John, for your quick reply. --[[Wolf Peuker|Peu]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 15:00, 29 October 2006 (EST) | ||
::::: Yes, if seems to work fine for: [[Template:Iftest|Iftest]] and [http://www. | ::::: Yes, if seems to work fine for: [[Template:Iftest|Iftest]] and [http://www.WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=WikiIndex%3ASandbox&diff=33963&oldid=33824 in Sandbox] --[[Wolf Peuker|Peu]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 15:24, 29 October 2006 (EST) | ||
==Wiki/2, Wiki/3, Wiki/4== | ==Wiki/2, Wiki/3, Wiki/4== | ||
I think it would be useful if we could describe in words exactly what changes are being worked on with each alternative version of this template, and the status of each change. Could we fill this in? If you're just experimenting with something, please let us know that as well. | I think it would be useful if we could describe in words exactly what changes are being worked on with each alternative version of this template, and the status of each change. Could we fill this in? If you're just experimenting with something, please let us know that as well. | ||
=== | ===Wiki/2=== | ||
'''Editor:''' [[Wolf Peuker]], | '''Editor(s):''' [[Wolf Peuker]], {{U|Smiddle}} | ||
;Intention: | |||
# We should make the wiki size visible (as a main criterion for usability), with statistics links we can the size class keep on track. Wikis can be compared by size with the size classes. | #We should make the wiki size visible (as a main criterion for usability), with statistics links we can the size class keep on track. Wikis can be compared by size with the size classes. | ||
# The Unknown required parameters should be looked up easily for WikiIndex maintainers, thats why we should include the important unknowns into categories. | #The Unknown required parameters should be looked up easily for WikiIndex maintainers, thats why we should include the important unknowns into categories. | ||
# The layout should keep familiar to the old one. | #The layout should keep familiar to the old one. | ||
;Proposed changes: | |||
# add parameter | #add parameter <tt>size</tt> (semantics from [[Template:Size]]) - ''Complete'' | ||
# add parameter | #add parameter <tt>statistics URL</tt> (semantics from [[Template:Size]]) - ''Complete'' | ||
# make the required parameters appear in the appropriate [[WikiIndex:WikiProject - Unknowns|Unknown-category]] - ''some Complete'' | #make the required parameters appear in the appropriate [[WikiIndex:WikiProject - Unknowns|Unknown-category]] - ''some Complete'' | ||
# clicking the WikiLogo leads to the wiki URL - ''Open'', must be done by hand or by [[User:Sean Fennel]]s [[User:SeanBot|Bot]]. | #clicking the WikiLogo leads to the wiki URL - ''Open'', must be done by hand or by [[User:Sean Fennel]]s [[User:SeanBot|Bot]]. | ||
# correct the layout - ''some Complete'' | #correct the layout - ''some Complete'' | ||
(3.+4. by use of the extension ParserFunctions introduced by [[User:Dantman|dantmans]] suggestion) | (3.+4. by use of the extension ParserFunctions introduced by [[User:Dantman|dantmans]] suggestion) | ||
;Discussion: | |||
=== | ===Wiki/3=== | ||
'''Editor:''' | '''Editor(s):''' {{U|Dantman}} | ||
;Proposed changes: | |||
* Use if ParserFunctions instead of If templates - '''''Complete''''' | * Use if ParserFunctions instead of If templates - '''''Complete''''' | ||
* Adding wiki_size to the Template - '''''Complete''''' | * Adding wiki_size to the Template - '''''Complete''''' | ||
* Allowing the WikiStatistics URL to be included into the template for MediaWiki and other engines that support a statistics page - '''''Complete''''' | * Allowing the WikiStatistics URL to be included into the template for MediaWiki and other engines that support a statistics page - '''''Complete''''' | ||
* The ability to goto a wiki by clicking on it's logo - '''''Waiting for the installation of the Custom Full/Local Image Extension''''' | * The ability to goto a wiki by clicking on it's logo - '''''Waiting for the installation of the Custom Full/Local Image Extension''''' | ||
;Discussion: | |||
Have you seen the discussion about the Founder field [[Template talk:Wiki#Author and about pages.3F|above]]? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:39, 30 October 2006 (EST) | Have you seen the discussion about the Founder field [[Template talk:Wiki#Author and about pages.3F|above]]? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:39, 30 October 2006 (EST) | ||
: I didn't read that discussion on the author, All I realy did with this template was find every template that looked like it was something that was taken out of the Wiki template because of the former lack of complex functions and re-introduce it in a manor that couldn't have been done before. Note that By using No the founder row not only is blank and doesn't categorize anything, but the space it takes also disappears completely. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:41, 30 October 2006 (EST) | : I didn't read that discussion on the author, All I realy did with this template was find every template that looked like it was something that was taken out of the Wiki template because of the former lack of complex functions and re-introduce it in a manor that couldn't have been done before. Note that By using No the founder row not only is blank and doesn't categorize anything, but the space it takes also disappears completely. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:41, 30 October 2006 (EST) | ||
:: Okay, I've removed "founder" from the template and boilerplate as they are not WikiIndex categories. Any entry at WikiIndex that wants to list their founder or any other people can do so in the description text. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:41, 31 October 2006 (EST) | :: Okay, I've removed "founder" from the template and boilerplate as they are not WikiIndex categories. Any entry at WikiIndex that wants to list their founder or any other people can do so in the description text. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:41, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ||
::: I think, if we ship Wiki/3 then we meet the Wiki/2 intentions fully: wiki size is included, the layout is acceptable, from my POV we should also check if the important unknowns are listed. I think, the "please upload logo" logo should be displayed instead of the text. '''BTW:''' the names of the nologo images are misleading. [[: | ::: I think, if we ship Wiki/3 then we meet the Wiki/2 intentions fully: wiki size is included, the layout is acceptable, from my POV we should also check if the important unknowns are listed. I think, the "please upload logo" logo should be displayed instead of the text. '''BTW:''' the names of the nologo images are misleading. [[:File:NoLogo.png]] means we have "no logo yet"; [[:File:No Logo Uploaded Yet.png]] (previously File:NoLogoYet.png) means this wiki has "no logo". Could we change that sometimes. --[[Wolf Peuker|Peu]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 15:27, 31 October 2006 (EST) | ||
===[[Template:Wiki/4|Wiki/4]]=== | ===[[Template:Wiki/4|Wiki/4]]=== | ||
'''Status:''' [ | '''Status:''' [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Template:Wiki&curid=3929&diff=51978&oldid=48423 launched on December 5, 2007]<br> | ||
'''Editor:''' | '''Editor(s):''' {{U|Koveras}} | ||
;Proposed changes: | |||
* Add and optional parameter "wide_logo" which, if specified, makes the logo appear on top of the infobox and the external links to the main page, recent edits, and wikinode, directly below it (for the cases when the logo is not square and messes up the layout) - '''''Complete''''' | * Add and optional parameter "wide_logo" which, if specified, makes the logo appear on top of the infobox and the external links to the main page, recent edits, and wikinode, directly below it (for the cases when the logo is not square and messes up the layout) - '''''Complete''''' | ||
* Apply <nowiki><div style="white-space:nowrap;"></div></nowiki> to external links - '''''Complete''''' | * Apply <nowiki><div style="white-space:nowrap;"></div></nowiki> to external links - '''''Complete''''' | ||
* Remove redundant linebreaks within includeonly section that make an empty paragraph appear on top of every page where the template is used - '''''Complete''''' | * Remove redundant linebreaks within includeonly section that make an empty paragraph appear on top of every page where the template is used - '''''Complete''''' | ||
;Discussion: | |||
Well, I've noticed that some wikis out there (like [[TV Tropes]] and [[TYPE-MOON Wiki]]) use rectangular logos instead of conventional square ones. If you visit their articles, you'll see that it really messes up the the infobox. I tried tweaking the parameters and find some smart trick to compensate for it but to no avail, so I was thinking about adding a boolean parameter "wide_logo" which, if set, places the logo at the top of the infobox, and the external links directly below it: | Well, I've noticed that some wikis out there (like [[TV Tropes]] and [[TYPE-MOON Wiki]]) use rectangular logos instead of conventional square ones. If you visit their articles, you'll see that it really messes up the the infobox. I tried tweaking the parameters and find some smart trick to compensate for it but to no avail, so I was thinking about adding a boolean parameter "wide_logo" which, if set, places the logo at the top of the infobox, and the external links directly below it: | ||
{|width=300 | |||
{| width= | |||
|- | |- | ||
|colspan= | |colspan=2 style="border:1px solid; text-align:center"|LOGO | ||
|- | |- | ||
|colspan= | |colspan=2 style="border:1px solid; text-align:center"|Wiki Name • RecentChanges • WikiNode | ||
|- | |- | ||
| style="border: 1px solid; text-align: right | |style="border:1px solid; text-align:right"|Status | ||
| style="border: 1px solid | |style="border:1px solid"|Active | ||
|} | |} | ||
I wasn't sure if something that small is worth starting | I wasn't sure if something that small is worth starting Wiki/4, so tell me what you think. :) --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 06:36, 28 November 2007 (EST) | ||
:Would you, please, integrate it as an optional parameter into the original [[Template:Wiki]], after having tested it as well-working with square logos too (maybe under [[Template:Wiki/4]]). Regards --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:56, 28 November 2007 (EST) | :Would you, please, integrate it as an optional parameter into the original [[Template:Wiki]], after having tested it as well-working with square logos too (maybe under [[Template:Wiki/4]]). Regards --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:56, 28 November 2007 (EST) | ||
::Done it. It's a quick and dirty solution, of course, and it needs some trimming but you'll get the idea. I've applied it to the [[TYPE-MOON Wiki]] article, please, tell me what you think. Also, I seem to have created that page in a wrong namespace: if you happen to know a friendly admin, please, ask them to delete [[Wiki/4|it]]. ^^; --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:28, 28 November 2007 (EST) | ::Done it. It's a quick and dirty solution, of course, and it needs some trimming but you'll get the idea. I've applied it to the [[TYPE-MOON Wiki]] article, please, tell me what you think. Also, I seem to have created that page in a wrong namespace: if you happen to know a friendly admin, please, ask them to delete [[Wiki/4|it]]. ^^; --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:28, 28 November 2007 (EST) | ||
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::What's there to fear? I'm confident in my coding. :) Should we perhaps put an extensive parameter list somewhere around here? Nichtich's one appears to have a somewhat different purpose... --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 10:21, 5 December 2007 (EST) | ::What's there to fear? I'm confident in my coding. :) Should we perhaps put an extensive parameter list somewhere around here? Nichtich's one appears to have a somewhat different purpose... --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 10:21, 5 December 2007 (EST) | ||
=== | ===Wiki/5=== | ||
'''Editor:''' | '''Editor(s):''' | ||
;Proposed changes: | |||
* Change 1 - ''status 1'' | *Change 1 - ''status 1'' | ||
* Change 2 - ''status 2'' | *Change 2 - ''status 2'' | ||
* etc | *etc | ||
;Discussion: | |||
==Hotlinking images== | ==Hotlinking images== | ||
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You should really [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template:Wiki&action=protect protect this template more]. All a potential vandal need do is register, edit this, and <big>BAM!</big> The entire wiki is affected. That could seriously hurt.—[[User:Supuhstar|<span style="font-family:Neuropol; color:#AA0000">'''''Supuhstar'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Supuhstar|<span style="font-family:Neuropol; color:#AA0000">'''''*'''''</span>]][[Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif]] 01:04, 3 June 2008 (EDT) | You should really [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Template:Wiki&action=protect protect this template more]. All a potential vandal need do is register, edit this, and <big>BAM!</big> The entire wiki is affected. That could seriously hurt.—[[User:Supuhstar|<span style="font-family:Neuropol; color:#AA0000">'''''Supuhstar'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Supuhstar|<span style="font-family:Neuropol; color:#AA0000">'''''*'''''</span>]][[Image:Supuhstar(SupuhSmall).gif]] 01:04, 3 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
==[[:Category:Wiki | ==[[:Category:Wiki license|Wiki license]] parameter== | ||
I reverted the addition of this parameter. This is not because I disagree with its inclusion. Rather, it appeared not to work right in certain cases. Specifically, it caused problems with [[Hitchwiki]] and [[Marvel Universe]]. I could not ascertain why the template failed in those instances, but not in others. Oddly, even now that I've reverted the template, these articles are still messed up. I'm not sure if my browser is failing to refresh the page, even though I'm forcing it to do so. Or, perhaps changes to the template take a while to broadcast, as nonsensical as that sounds. In any event, I thought it would be better to revert the changes until the kinks are worked out. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:26, 14 October 2008 (EDT) | I reverted the addition of this parameter. This is not because I disagree with its inclusion. Rather, it appeared not to work right in certain cases. Specifically, it caused problems with [[Hitchwiki]] and [[Marvel Universe]]. I could not ascertain why the template failed in those instances, but not in others. Oddly, even now that I've reverted the template, these articles are still messed up. I'm not sure if my browser is failing to refresh the page, even though I'm forcing it to do so. Or, perhaps changes to the template take a while to broadcast, as nonsensical as that sounds. In any event, I thought it would be better to revert the changes until the kinks are worked out. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 16:26, 14 October 2008 (EDT) | ||
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==wiki_language1, wiki_language2, etc.== | ==wiki_language1, wiki_language2, etc.== | ||
It would probably be better to support putting multiple languages, much as MediaWiki.org allows multiple hooks to be specified in its [[mw:Template:Extension/doc#Usage]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 03:28, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | It would probably be better to support putting multiple languages, much as MediaWiki.org allows multiple hooks to be specified in its [[mw:Template:Extension/doc#Usage]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 03:28, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
:Is that a specific MW extension that needs to be installed? According to [[Special:Version|this]], I can't find anything similar in the list. I'm not sure I'd support this . . . identical wikis of different languages (ie, en.wikipedia.org, it.wikipedia.org, ru.wikipedia.org) will all have their own separate article listing here on WikiIndex, with their 'mother' category or article using the {{template| | :Is that a specific MW extension that needs to be installed? According to [[Special:Version|this]], I can't find anything similar in the list. I'm not sure I'd support this . . . identical wikis of different languages (ie, en.wikipedia.org, it.wikipedia.org, ru.wikipedia.org) will all have their own separate article listing here on WikiIndex, with their 'mother' category or article using the {{template|Multilingual main}} template (rather than the default {{template|Wiki}}). For those genuinely single wikis which are multilingual (such as this [[WikiIndex]]), I think the current infobox lead language of 'Multilingual', followed by individual languages listed by tagging in prose or separate 'categories' at the bottom of the edit box will suffice. However, I remain open to this, and wait others opinions too. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 04:40, 20 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
==Other useful parameters== | ==Other useful parameters== | ||