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==Organizing wiki engine information and interlinking==
==Organizing wiki engine information and interlinking==
* We have a '''category for each wiki engine''', which is where we see all the different wikis which are using it.
* We have a '''category for each wiki engine''', which is where we see all the different wikis which are using it;
* We have a '''wiki description page for wiki engines''' where they have a wiki (most wiki engine's have an official website which is powered by the software, as a flagship example)
* We have a '''wiki description page for wiki engines''' where they have a wiki (most wiki engine's have an official {wiki} website which is powered by the software, as a flagship example).
 
...so maybe we should describe the features of the wiki software at top of the category page ("The following wikis are powered by <nowiki>'''SuchAndSuchWiki'''</nowiki>. This software has nifty features X Y Z."),  and we include a link to the wiki description page ("The home page of this wiki engine is <nowiki>[[SuchAndSuchWiki]]</nowiki>")
...so maybe we should describe the features of the wiki software at top of the category page ("The following wikis are powered by <nowiki>'''SuchAndSuchWiki'''</nowiki>. This software has nifty features X Y Z."),  and we include a link to the wiki description page ("The home page of this wiki engine is <nowiki>[[SuchAndSuchWiki]]</nowiki>")


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==further organisation questions==
==further organisation questions==
Should the wiki description page be in the [[:Category:Wiki Engine]]? I would say not, otherwise we end up with each wiki engine listed twice (since each also appears as a sub category)
Should the wiki description page be in the [[:Category:Wiki Engine]]? I would say not, otherwise we end up with each wiki engine listed twice (since each also appears as a sub category). -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 05:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)
-- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 05:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)
 
==Unpopular Wiki Engines==
How to handle wiki engines where we find only one wiki using it. Maybe the article page should be added to [[:Category:Wiki Engine]], and we dont bother creating a a category for it? -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 05:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)


==Unpopular wiki engines==
How to handle wiki engines where we find only one wiki using it. Maybe the article page should be added to [[:Category:Wiki Engine]], and we don't bother creating a category for it? -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 05:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)
:Yes, that sounds fine.
:Yes, that sounds fine.
:Alternatively, we could pretend that all those unique wiki engines are all using the same wiki engine. We would name that wiki engine something like "Unique wiki engine".
:Alternatively, we could pretend that all those unique wiki engines are all using the same wiki engine. We would name that wiki engine something like "Unique wiki engine".
:Or "Unpopular wiki engine", if we wanted to criticize their creativity :-).
:Or "Unpopular wiki engine", if we wanted to criticize their creativity :-). --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 04:18, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 04:18, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)
 
::"Rare wiki engine" would be short and polite (NPOV) while still accurate. "Unique" would not be good applied to a class, especially if two or more were sufficiently similar that neither should be called "unique" and/or if one might find a second user and therefore definitely not be unique in one sense. [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 01:51, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)
::"Rare wiki engine" would be short and polite (NPOV) while still accurate. "Unique" would not be good applied to a class, especially if two or more were sufficiently similar that neither should be called "unique" and/or if one might find a second user and therefore definitely not be unique in one sense. [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 01:51, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)
:::Actually there's already something called [[:Category:Proprietary]] which was presumably created with this kind of intention. I reckon maybe we should put these wikis into the that category, then just mention on their article page, that they are powered by proprietary software called 'blahblah'. Note this will significantly reduce the number of subcategories in the 'Wiki Engines' category. -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 10:05, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)
:::Actually there's already something called [[:Category:Proprietary]] which was presumably created with this kind of intention. I reckon maybe we should put these wikis into the that category, then just mention on their article page, that they are powered by proprietary software called 'blahblah'. Note this will significantly reduce the number of subcategories in the 'Wiki Engines' category. -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 10:05, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)


==Naming of wiki Engines==
==Naming of wiki engines==
Why is it UseModWiki, but OddMuse (not wiki)? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 11:46, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)
Why is it [[:Category:UseModWiki|UseModWiki]], but [[:Category:Oddmuse|OddMuse]] (not wiki)? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 11:46, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)
:Good question Ted. It should probably be just 'UseMod', but that'll take a bit of changing! -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 05:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)
:Good question Ted. It should probably be just 'UseMod', but that'll take a bit of changing! -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 05:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)


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* MediaWiki?
* MediaWiki?
Do we really need both? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 04:18, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)
Do we really need both? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 04:18, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)
:That's a good question we need to look into that --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 01:56, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)
:That's a good question we need to look into that --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 01:56, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Specifically we need to find which page says "<nowiki>[[Category:MediaWiki?]]</nowiki>" (or tag template equivalent). 'MediaWiki?' seems to be equivalent to 'MediaWiki', which is fortunate in that it means the problem doesn't really matter, but unfortunate in that we don't know which of the 296 mediawiki pages has that wrong '?' on it! -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 09:59, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)
::Specifically we need to find which page says "<nowiki>[[Category:MediaWiki?]]</nowiki>" (or tag template equivalent). 'MediaWiki?' seems to be equivalent to 'MediaWiki', which is fortunate in that it means the problem doesn't really matter, but unfortunate in that we don't know which of the 296 mediawiki pages has that wrong '?' on it! -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 09:59, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)


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     Please refer others who wish to use BoltWire to the BoltWire website directly.
     Please refer others who wish to use BoltWire to the BoltWire website directly.


I did not intent to offer/sell the engine to anybody. It is different from to inform about its existence. And the link in the template equals 'to refer directly'. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
::I did not intent to offer/sell the engine to anybody. It is different from to inform about its existence. And the link in the template equals 'to refer directly'. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
 
==see also==
*http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiEngines
 
 
== Wikia not an engine ==


==Wikia not an engine==
I keep seeing "Wikia" in the "Wiki engine:" slot of pages at WikiIndex, but when I check those wikis at wikia.com i see "Powered by MediaWiki".
I keep seeing "Wikia" in the "Wiki engine:" slot of pages at WikiIndex, but when I check those wikis at wikia.com i see "Powered by MediaWiki".
* 1) Is it ok to update those articles at WikiIndex from "Wikia" to "MediaWiki"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 09:28, 30 April 2016 (PDT)
#Is it ok to update those articles at WikiIndex from "Wikia" to "MediaWiki"? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 09:28, 30 April 2016 (PDT)
* 2) Should Wikia even be listed in [[:Category:Wiki_Engine]]? Seems to me to be a wiki host, not an engine. (not even Wikipedia's article about Wikia says "wiki engine") --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 09:28, 30 April 2016 (PDT)
#Should Wikia even be listed in [[:Category:Wiki Engine]]? Seems to me to be a wiki host, not an engine. (not even Wikipedia's article about Wikia says "wiki engine") --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] ([[User talk:EarthFurst|talk]]) 09:28, 30 April 2016 (PDT)
 
The Wikia-Software is certainly based on MediaWiki. But it is so heavily modified, that for us, it counts as its own wiki engine. At the same time wiki is a [[Wiki farm]]. We do not have any clear policy or any guidances at all to clearly decide or distinguish what is a modified or simply customized engine and what is a new engine. On the [http://api.wikia.com/wiki/Legacy_API#MediaWiki_API_Documentation API-Wiki of Wikia] it is said: "Since Wikia is built on top of MediaWiki, the MediaWiki API can be used to access most of the data on our sites. In addition, the LyricWiki API gives access to LyricWiki and the Wikia Custom API provides access to many of our Wikia-specific features".
[[User_talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:01, 30 April 2016 (PDT)
 


The Wikia-Software is certainly based on MediaWiki. But it is so heavily modified, that for us, it counts as its own wiki engine. At the same time wiki is a [[Wiki farm]]. We do not have any clear policy or any guidances at all to clearly decide or distinguish what is a modified or simply customized engine and what is a new engine. On the [http://api.wikia.com/wiki/Legacy_API#MediaWiki_API_Documentation API-Wiki of Wikia] it is said: "Since Wikia is built on top of MediaWiki, the MediaWiki API can be used to access most of the data on our sites. In addition, the LyricWiki API gives access to LyricWiki and the Wikia Custom API provides access to many of our Wikia-specific features".  [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:01, 30 April 2016 (PDT)


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