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[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Guide_for_system_administrators_for_setting_up_interwiki_linking This] might be useful, though only John can actually do it. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 14:20, 9 September 2006 (EDT)
This {{WMF-Meta|Help:Guide for system administrators for setting up interwiki linking}} might be useful, though only [[User:John Stanton|John]] can actually do it. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 14:20, 9 September 2006 (EDT)
:: Sean, Interwiki linking has been set up in a test mode for several months now with only two links set up but one of those was the universal link, AnyWiki. The other link is CommonsWiki. As of today I have activated all the links and put a list of them up on the [[Special:Interwiki|InterWiki]] page. The proposal on the table is that we take the complete list of Wikis from WikiIndex and add them to the list of links. All we need is a decision to do that and it shouldn't take too much to get it done. Test links [[Meatball:BarnRaising|Meatball Barnraising]]
:Sean, [[Interwiki]] linking has been set up in a test mode for several months now with only two links set up but one of those was the universal link, Any Wiki. The other link is [[Commons Wiki]]. As of today I have activated all the links and put a list of them up on the [[Special:Interwiki|InterWiki]] page. The proposal on the table is that we take the complete list of Wikis from WikiIndex and add them to the list of links. All we need is a decision to do that and it shouldn't take too much to get it done. Test links [[Meatball:BarnRaising|Meatball Barnraising]]


== Requests ==
==Requests==
Can I request interwiki links? Then I would like to have an YTMND interwiki link (ytmnd:Main Page http://wiki.ytmnd.com/$1) [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] 10:01, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
Can I request interwiki links? Then I would like to have an YTMND interwiki link (ytmnd:Main Page http://wiki.ytmnd.com/$1) [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] 10:01, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
:In the list the prefixes for sunir.org and Ward's Wiki are the same. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:40, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
:In the list the prefixes for sunir.org and Ward's Wiki are the same. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 16:40, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
::Gosh, don't we have Wikia links? <nowiki>[[wikia:Page]]</nowiki>, [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/ http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1] &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Search/Smiddle|S]]&middot;[[Special:Allpages/Smiddle|A]]</small> 14:04, 1 October 2006 (EDT)
::Gosh, don't we have Wikia links? <nowiki>[[wikia:Page]]</nowiki>, [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/ http://www.wikia.com/wiki/$1] &ndash; [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Search/Smiddle|S]]&middot;[[Special:Allpages/Smiddle|A]]</small> 14:04, 1 October 2006 (EDT)


== Editable Interwiki List ==
==Editable Interwiki list==
Go here to see the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki list]], this list is editable, contact me if you want to be able to do that. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:47, 29 October 2006 (EST)
Go here to see the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki list]], this list is editable, contact me if you want to be able to do that. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:47, 29 October 2006 (EST)


== Google ==
==Google==
Interwiki linking to Google makes for instance [[Google: Wiki Index]], which makes the search to Wiki_Index. Is there eny way to set up so that the spaces will be plusses instead? <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">&ndash;</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 04:41, 19 November 2006 (EST)
Interwiki linking to [[:Category:Google|Google]] makes for instance [[Google: Wiki Index]], which makes the search to Wiki_Index. Is there eny way to set up so that the spaces will be plusses instead? <span title="Swedish n-dash FTW!">&ndash;</span> [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 04:41, 19 November 2006 (EST)


== Interlanguage links ==
==Interlanguage links==
Please make a redirect from WikiIndex.com to .org... there're a lot of interlanguage links that links to WikiIndex.com. For example: [[:fr:]] [[:de:]] [[:en:]] and I don't want to do the hard work to delete them and remake them :( <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:48, 18 December 2006 (PST)
Please make a redirect from WikiIndex.com to .org... there're a lot of interlanguage links that links to WikiIndex.com. For example: <tt>:fr:</tt>, <tt>:de:</tt>, <tt>:en:</tt>, and I don't want to do the hard work to delete them and remake them :( &ndash; [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:48, 18 December 2006 (PST)
:: Seems to be working now or am I missing the point :-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 20:10, 18 December 2006 (PST)
:: Seems to be working now or am I missing the point :-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 20:10, 18 December 2006 (PST)
::: No, all these link to WikiIndex.'''com'''/$1, and if I'm gonna change every link to .'''org''' it's very hard work... <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 08:59, 19 December 2006 (PST)
::: No, all these link to WikiIndex.'''com'''/$1, and if I'm gonna change every link to .'''org''' it's very hard work... &ndash; [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 08:59, 19 December 2006 (PST)
:: I need to understand the problem better, what links are we talking about and where are they located? What exactly are you asking me to do? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:51, 19 December 2006 (PST)
:: I need to understand the problem better, what links are we talking about and where are they located? What exactly are you asking me to do? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:51, 19 December 2006 (PST)
:::Smiddle is trying to say that there's need to redirect every query to WikiIndex.org to wikiindex.org, like there's existing redirect from blah.wikicities.com to blah.wikia.com, so there will be no need to edit [[Special:Interwiki]] and delete lot of entries that links to WikiIndex.org and then add lot of entries that links to wikiindex.org. [[User:Szoferka|Szoferka]] 16:30, 19 December 2006 (PST)
:::Smiddle is trying to say that there's need to redirect every query to WikiIndex.com to WikiIndex.org, like there's existing redirect from blah.WikiCities.com to blah.Wikia.com, so there will be no need to edit [[Special:Interwiki]] and delete lot of entries that links to WikiIndex.com and then add lot of entries that links to WikiIndex.org. [[User:Szoferka|Szoferka]] 16:30, 19 December 2006 (PST)
:: Ahhh! if it is the InterWiki table that you want changed I can do that in a flash at the database level. We want to limit access to WikiIndex to the WikiIndex.org domain name, that's why we are forwarding WikiIndex.com to WikiIndex.org. Let me know if changing the table will do the trick. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:47, 19 December 2006 (PST)
:: Ahhh! if it is the InterWiki table that you want changed I can do that in a flash at the database level. We want to limit access to WikiIndex to the WikiIndex.org domain name, that's why we are forwarding WikiIndex.com to WikiIndex.org. Let me know if changing the table will do the trick. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:47, 19 December 2006 (PST)
::: I don't really get what you mean. I use interwiki links for 1: tutorials and help in various languages, for example at the [[WhatWikiIs]] you'd write [[:fr:C'est quoi un wiki ?]] to languagelink to the [[C'est quoi un wiki ?]] page. 2: multilingual wikis, the Wikipedia page for example has [[:de:Deutsche Wikipedia]], [[:fr:Fran&ccedil;ais Wikipédia]] and so on. But due to no .com adress, the links won't work if one click them. If there's not some quick way, I'll have to change every link at the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]] for hand. If you scroll down, you'll find that for example [[:es:]] links to WikiIndex.org/$1 instead of org. <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 08:15, 20 December 2006 (PST)
::: I don't really get what you mean. I use interwiki links for 1: tutorials and help in various languages, for example at the [[What is a Wiki]] you'd write <tt>:fr:C'est quoi un wiki?</tt> to language link to the [[C'est quoi un wiki?]] page. 2: multilingual wikis, the Wikipedia page for example has <tt>:de:Deutsche Wikipedia</tt>, <tt>:fr:Fran&ccedil;ais Wikipédia</tt> and so on. But due to no .com adress, the links won't work if one click them. If there's not some quick way, I'll have to change every link at the [[Special:Interwiki|interwiki table]] for hand. If you scroll down, you'll find that for example <tt>:es:</tt> links to WikiIndex.com/$1 instead of org. &ndash; [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 08:15, 20 December 2006 (PST)
::I have changed all the Interwiki table entries for WikiIndex from .com to .org  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:27, 20 December 2006 (PST)
::I have changed all the Interwiki table entries for WikiIndex from .com to .org  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 10:27, 20 December 2006 (PST)
:::Thanks a lot. Now it works. <span title="gotta love Wii">&ndash;</span> [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:08, 20 December 2006 (PST)
:::Thanks a lot. Now it works. &ndash; [[Smiddle]] / <small>[[User talk:Smiddle|T]]&middot;[[Special:Contributions/Smiddle|C]]&middot;[[Special:Emailuser/Smiddle|@]]</small> 11:08, 20 December 2006 (PST)


==Interwiki requests==
==Interwiki requests==
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::OK, added the template to my [[User:Hoof Hearted/ToDo|to do list]].
::OK, added the template to my [[User:Hoof Hearted/ToDo|to do list]].
::In terms of project namespace vs main namespace – the choice is obviously yours, but I'd like to suggest that when an article on a general wiki idea discusses specific actions or attributes which are unique to this WikiIndex site, then they really ought to stay (or be moved to) the WikiIndex project namespace; whereas any article which makes no reference to specifics of WikiIndex can be in the main namespace – IMVHO.
::In terms of project namespace vs main namespace – the choice is obviously yours, but I'd like to suggest that when an article on a general wiki idea discusses specific actions or attributes which are unique to this WikiIndex site, then they really ought to stay (or be moved to) the WikiIndex project namespace; whereas any article which makes no reference to specifics of WikiIndex can be in the main namespace – IMVHO.
::Page protection – we have over 19,000 articles in the main namespace (and that doesn't include project, category, user, file namespaces); but according to [[Special:ProtectedPages]], we have less than 200 protected pages.  Maybe 20% of those are in the MediaWiki namespace (which are protected by default and can't be changed), there are a small number of userpages (and users should IMVHO have the absolute right on weather they want their own namespaces protected or not), some are 'userpages' which have been setup and locked to prevent doppelgangers, another small number of high-importance pages (typically those which are reached directly from the sidebar and are thus a very easy target for vandalism), and the vast remainder are [[:Category:Templates|templates]] – which are vital to the whole look and feel of this wiki.  For example, if someone makes a malicious edit to {{template|Wiki}}, that will have a potentially catastrophic effect on over 19,000 other pages.  Even an 'innocent' bad edit to a template can have a knock-on effect – many templates are interlinked with other templates, as my innocent edit to one of the language templates back in January proved.  Furthermore, of those templates which are protected, the vast majority are only 'move' protected; they are still open edit, just a select few important templates are protected to log-in editors.  Finally, if you check the [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=protect protection log], you will see that many were protect by others apart from me (scroll down!), and that very recently I've been removing protection to some which I feel deserve it (and wern't previously subject to edit wars).  So whilst we may have nigh-on 200 in the protection list, only a very small percentage of those are 'edit' protected.  Best, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:03, 19 October 2012 (PDT)
::Page protection – we have over 19,000 articles in the main namespace (and that doesn't include [[project]], [[category]], [[user]], [[file]] namespaces); but according to [[Special:ProtectedPages]], we have less than 200 protected pages.  Maybe 20% of those are in the [[:Category:MediaWiki namespace|MediaWiki namespace]][https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:PrefixIndex&namespace=8] (which are protected by default and can't be changed), there are a small number of [[user page]]s (and users should IMVHO have the absolute right on weather they want their own namespaces protected or not), some are 'user pages' which have been setup and locked to prevent [[doppelganger]]s, another small number of high-importance pages (typically those which are reached directly from the [[sidebar]] and are thus a very easy target for [[vandal]]ism), and the vast remainder are [[:Category:Templates|templates]] – which are vital to the whole look and feel of this wiki.  For example, if someone makes a malicious edit to {{template|Wiki}}, that will have a potentially catastrophic effect on over 19,000 other pages.  Even an 'innocent' bad edit to a template can have a knock-on effect – many templates are interlinked with other templates, as my innocent edit to one of the language templates back in January proved.  Furthermore, of those templates which are protected, the vast majority are only 'move' protected; they are still [[:Category:OpenEdit|open edit]], just a select few important templates are protected to log-in editors.  Finally, if you check the [https://WikiIndex.org/index.php?title=Special:Log&limit=500&type=protect protection log], you will see that many were protect by others apart from me (scroll down!), and that very recently I've been removing protection to some which I feel deserve it (and wern't previously subject to [[edit war]]s).  So whilst we may have nigh-on 200 in the protection list, only a very small percentage of those are 'edit' protected.  Best, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:03, 19 October 2012 (PDT)

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