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Why include dead wikis in this list, but not inactive wikis? Aren't the two categories basically the same? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 03:42, 20 November 2012 (PST)
Why include dead wikis in this list, but not inactive wikis? Aren't the two categories basically the same? [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 03:42, 20 November 2012 (PST)
:There have been a few discussions on the 'dead vs inactive' . . . without any real resolution.  Some folks prefer to use the {{template|inactive}} template to recategorise those wikis which have vanished.  However, whilst that template clears them from this Category:All, it also strips them from every other category which their former {{template|wiki}} rendered.  IMVHO, this is unfair as it gives a negative bias to say a wiki which used the standard MediaWiki software, but gives a disproportionately positive bias towards Wikia (because Wikia wikis never die, they just fester for years with no action).
:There have been a few discussions on the 'dead vs inactive' . . . without any real resolution.  Some folks prefer to use the {{template|inactive}} template to recategorise those wikis which have vanished.  However, whilst that template clears them from this Category:All, it also strips them from every other category which their former {{template|wiki}} rendered.  IMVHO, this is unfair as it gives a negative bias to say a wiki which used the standard MediaWiki software, but gives a disproportionately positive bias towards Wikia (because Wikia wikis never die, they just fester for years with no action).
:We really need to once and for all clarify the confusion over dead vs inactive [[:Category:Wiki Status|wiki status]], then we can address your concern.
:We really need to once and for all clarify the confusion over dead vs inactive [[:Category:Wiki status|wiki status]], then we can address your concern.
:Fundamentally, though, this Category:All should not include any dead wikis (be they classified as 'dead' or 'inactive').  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:24, 20 November 2012 (PST)
:Fundamentally, though, this Category:All should not include any dead wikis (be they classified as 'dead' or 'inactive').  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:24, 20 November 2012 (PST)
::Those Wikia wikis would be "dormant", would they not? Maybe a wiki that has been dormant for some time (e.g. a year) could be described as "inactive", but it would require a change in how inactive is defined here. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 04:22, 21 November 2012 (PST)
::Those Wikia wikis would be "dormant", would they not? Maybe a wiki that has been dormant for some time (e.g. a year) could be described as "inactive", but it would require a change in how inactive is defined here. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 04:22, 21 November 2012 (PST)
:::Yes, you are correct re the Wikia wikis :)
:::Yes, you are correct re the Wikia wikis :)
:::The confusion or lack of clarity over three current status definitions; inactive, dormant and dead.  IMVHO, inactive and dormant could/should be merged, as they have similar dictionary definitions (when applied to wikis), and dead should be used for ALL wikis which are gone for good.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:06, 21 November 2012 (PST)
:::The confusion or lack of clarity over three current status definitions; inactive, dormant and dead.  IMVHO, inactive and dormant could/should be merged, as they have similar dictionary definitions (when applied to wikis), and dead should be used for ALL wikis which are gone for good.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 06:06, 21 November 2012 (PST)