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== Request for Removal ==
Hello. Could you please remove the page [[Dresden-wiki]] (now [[Stadtwiki Dresden]] - the other name is '''not''' used) and the [[:Image:DresdenwikiLogo.JPG]]. I updated the corresponding page so this file and article are not necessary any more.
:I've gone ahead and done it. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 04:59, 19 November 2006 (EST)
== Hello ==
== Hello ==


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This is a MediaWiki extension, see [[Input Box Extension]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:05, 4 July 2006 (EDT)
This is a MediaWiki extension, see [[Input Box Extension]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 14:05, 4 July 2006 (EDT)
== tagging ==
check out [[Add a Wiki]] and [[How do tags work]].  I jiggered it a bit, let me know what u think, thx --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 02:44, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)


== WSR3 ==
== WSR3 ==
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== future wiki-nodes ==
== future wiki-nodes ==
Hello John,  I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question.  Can we currently sort on a no for URL_wikinode?  Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. [[The_league_of_scarybirds]] with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
Hello John,  I am toying with the mark-up for wikinodes that are not there and TedErnst asked me a good question.  Can we currently sort on a no for URL_wikinode?  Meaning if we do what I am thinking about (e.g. [[The_league_of_scarybirds]] with the - WikiNode) does that damage being able to find those? Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
== List of wikis by size ==
Is it possible to introduce another categorization criteria, by size (conservative pages count)?
[[User:84.177.187.236|84.177.187.236]] 04:17, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
:Page count would be interesting, but difficult to keep up-to-date. It would also be interesting to measure other things, like the edit rate of wikis, which will vary over time. And the number of active users. But we wouldn't want to be measuring these things by hand. We could try to build a tool to automate some wiki analysis. Visiting wikis as a web-bot. It could also present the figures on the wikiindex wiki by updating the wiki as bot, but it might be easier to implement as a seperate display, as least initially. -- [[User:Harry Wood|Harry Wood]] 06:26, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
At least for Mediawikis with more than 7000 articles and Wikimedia Projects a batch process like this alredy exists.
http://s23.org/wikistats/
You should contact the author in offering aid to extend his efforts. [[User:84.177.187.236|84.177.187.236]] 07:51, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
Hi, im the author. Do you already check the wikis automatically to some extent or is this all manual still? Do you already get data from the Special:Statistics?action=raw pages? [[User:Mutante|Mutante]] 08:25, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
:Still pretty much a manual operation with a thought to future automation. Welcome any suggestions and/or help along this line [[User:John Stanton|John Stanton]]
Could you extract a list of all Mediawiki URLs, something like "select old_text from text where old_text LIKE "%Recentchanges%"; hmm,or make a mysql dump file and grep it from there? If we had a list with all Special:Statistics URLs of the listed Mediawikis that would be the key to make automated statistics. [[User:Mutante|Mutante]] 16:02, 27 Feb 2006 (EST)
== Main Page ==
Hi John,  Sean over at Meatball pointed us in this direction: [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_main_page.3F How do I change the main page] for whenever you get around to it.  Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>  (uhhh, wait, that didn't tell us anything... )
:I'm pretty sure that what that means is that (and an admin will have to do this as the page is protected) the page [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] just needs to edited to say the name of another page. [[User:158.135.241.100|158.135.241.100]] 02:43, 1 Mar 2006 (EST)
:Exactly what is it that we want to do here? [[User:John Stanton|John Stanton]] 15:11, 2 Mar 2006 (EST)
: Map the upper left logo to [[Wiki Index]]
::Then [[Wiki Index]] is going to have to be set as the main page. Clicking that logo is meant to be a shortcut back to the main page. Right now it ''is'' mapped there, but that's only because the page it's ''really'' mapped to redirects there. &mdash;[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 02:03, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)
:::I just notced that mediawiki.org has their main page set up exactly the way we've been discussing here: "main" page is page with same name as the wiki itself. &mdash;[[Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">User:Sean Fennel</span>]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">@</span>]] 02:06, 6 Mar 2006 (EST)
:Hope that does the trick [[User:John Stanton|John Stanton]] 15:16, 8 Mar 2006 (EST)
Cool John!!! [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small>
== upgrading ==
[[Sean Fennel]] has been discussing the merits of an upgrade [http://www.wikiindex.com/User_talk:Sean_Fennel#RC_patrol here].  How does it look from your end? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 00:11, 12 Apr 2006 (EDT)
We are in the planning stage for an upgrade from MediaWiki 1.4.5 to 1.6.3 which is the stable current version. If 1.7.X becomes the stable version before we upgrade we will use that version. This promises to be a difficult upgrade for the following reasons: (1) the database schema changes significantly and that nearly always creates problems, (2) a variety of modifications that we have made to enable things like editable menus will have to be redone, and (3) the pretty URL hack may break the whole upgrade process. We have an unused wiki to practice on to refine the process and I hope to have all the wikis in our stable upgraded by 15 May 2006 barring any really tough problems. I tell you all this so that you can understand my reluctance to introduce any more variables into this process before we upgrade. Let us see what the status of the RSS feeds is after the upgrade and then we can decide what to do. [[User:John Stanton|John Stanton]]
== new wiki button ==
brilliant with the pre-load!  I love it! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:30, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
:Thanks Ted [[User:John Stanton|John Stanton]] 18:52, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
== clickpic ==
John!!
I think I know what this might mean!  The images in the structured data might be able to be mapped to the wiki, right!?!!?!  This is awesome!! [[MarkDilley]]
:Exactly! [[User:67.160.171.38|67.160.171.38]] 20:32, 11 May 2006 (EDT)
:: I tried it.  [http://wikiindex.com/index.php?title=Template%3AWiki&diff=20854&oldid=13651 It didn't work.] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:44, 12 May 2006 (EDT)
: May require some tinkering to work inside another template. It is meant to get an external logo and point it to a wiki page. I think you reversed the usage trying to get a local wiki image and point to an external site. Anyhow play with it and see if you can put it to good use. It could serve as a model for your usage. Another advantage to getting the external Logo is that you can always tell when the wiki is dead :-) [[User:John Stanton|John Stanton]] 18:56, 12 May 2006 (EDT)
== no follow on links? ==
Hi John,  check [http://www.wikiindex.com/WikiIndex:Community_talk#rel_nofollow_on_links_to_wikis this] out.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:: The NoFollow setting is a default anti-spam setting in mediawiki and essentially makes spam postings a useless exercise because it makes links on the wiki "no counters" for Google ranking (and other indexers). There should be a policy decision made as to its use or non-use! [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:59, 19 May 2006 (EDT)
== monobook.js ==
John,, could you please comment on [[User talk:Sean Fennel#monobook.js]]?  I don't really know much about this, other than that it could help us automate repetitive tass a bit more.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:25, 28 May 2006 (EDT)
::I replied on [[User talk:Sean Fennel]] [[User:John Stanton|John]] 13:51, 28 May 2006 (EDT)
== .htaccess ==
John, I've just installed mediawiki at http://chicagocoop.net/wiki and I'd like to have the urls show up like they do here, http://chicagocoop.net/wiki/PageName without the index.php and such.  How do I do that?  Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:16, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
::This is what our .htaccess looks like [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:17, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
<pre>
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -f [ornext]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} -d
RewriteRule .* - [last]
RewriteRule ^([^?].+)$ /index.php/$1 [L]
RewriteRule ^(.+)$ /index.php/$1 [L,QSA]
AddDefaultCharset utf-8
</pre>
::: Thanks!  I'll give it a try.  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 19:15, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
This operation was way more complicated than I realized, just because I don't know what I'm doing.  You .htaccess didn't work for me, likely because my directory structure is different.  I ended up re-installing in the /w directory (instead of /wiki) and then following these instructions so my wiki does appear to be at http://chicagocoop.net/wiki and without the index.php http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url#Using_a_rewrite_rule_in_a_.htaccess_file  THanks much for geting me started! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 01:04, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
::Yeah, there are many ways to do this and it does depend alot on your server configuration and your hoster. Be aware that some hosters (like ours) periodocially overwrite .htaccess as a security measure causing you to lose connectivity to your site. I check all our wikis first thing every morning (even before my first cup of coffee) to make sure they are still up. Keep a copy of your .htaccess handy at all times!!!  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 12:08, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
== MyNavMenu ==
Another mediawiki question for you.  I can't figure out how to edit the sidebar on my new install.  I see that here at WikiIndex it's MediaWiki:MyNavMenu, but that page doesn't exist on my new install.  Any suggestions? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:44, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
::AhHa now you are after the secrets of the trade :-). The two menus on the side require a modification to the skin code in Monobook.php. We have several different Monobook.php files  for differing configurations of Google AdSense as well as one that does not use any ads. Let me know which one you want & I'll send it to you. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:25, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
The no-ad version would be great.  Thanks! [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 19:15, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
::Sent it by GMail [[User:John Stanton|John]] 20:46, 11 June 2006 (EDT)
This works great!  Thanks!  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 01:54, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
::It has worked well for us but you must remember that is a custom file when you update. Sometimes they modify the skin files during an update (as they did massively between versions 1.4.x to 1.6.x) and I have to reprogram it. Just keep in sync with us and you should be ok! Your next questions should be about the extensions we use (CharInsert and InputBox), I'm ready when you are :-) [[User:John Stanton|John]] 11:57, 13 June 2006 (EDT)


== More potential ==
== More potential ==
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This wiki is great, but I honestly believe if it turned into a wiki of '''websites''', instead of just wikis, it could be all that better. You already would have a good start on other wikis attempting this, as you already have users and info about lots of wikis. --[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elliotgoodrich| Elliot Goodrich (not a member here)]16:37, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
This wiki is great, but I honestly believe if it turned into a wiki of '''websites''', instead of just wikis, it could be all that better. You already would have a good start on other wikis attempting this, as you already have users and info about lots of wikis. --[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Elliotgoodrich| Elliot Goodrich (not a member here)]16:37, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
::Funny you should mention that because within a week or so our sister wiki, [http://AboutUs.com AboutUs.com] will launch with that exact concept pre loaded with 2 million+ web sites. Keep checking it. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:48, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
::Funny you should mention that because within a week or so our sister wiki, [http://AboutUs.com AboutUs.com] will launch with that exact concept pre loaded with 2 million+ web sites. Keep checking it. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 16:48, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
== [[Talk:WikiProject:Recent Changes Patrol]] ==
moved to page above.
== Talk:ThisWiki:Copyright ==
[[Talk:ThisWiki:Copyright]] ... sorry for the late answer. --[[User:Kawana|Kawana]] 03:46, 14 August 2006 (EDT)


== Sitemap ==
== Sitemap ==


Hi John, please see this conversation: [[WikiIndex:Community_talk#Sitemap]]. Best [[MarkDilley]]
Hi John, please see this conversation: [[WikiIndex:Community_talk#Sitemap]]. Best [[MarkDilley]]
== spam filter problem ==
John, could you please take a look at [[ProcrastinateNetFirmsWiki]] and see what's up with the spam filter?  thanks [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:09, 31 August 2006 (EDT)
::What were you trying to do??? It saves fine with it's current content.  [[User:John Stanton|John]] 18:45, 31 August 2006 (EDT)
:::Trying to remove the spaces I had to put in the URLs to get the page to save. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Times New Roman;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 03:56, 1 September 2006 (EDT)
::Don't know what is happening to you, I removed the spaces, one at a time, and it saved fine each time??? [[User:John Stanton|John]] 08:16, 1 September 2006 (EDT)
::: Very strange.  I also tried to save it without the spaces, same as Sean did, with the same filter block.  Glad it's fixed now. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:32, 1 September 2006 (EDT)


== [[MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu]] ==
== [[MediaWiki talk:MyNavMenu]] ==
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Strange, no? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:49, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
Strange, no? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:49, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
: Very strange! I'll check further... [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:28, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
: Very strange! I'll check further... [[User:John Stanton|John]] 15:28, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
[http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=John_Stanton&curid=2942&diff=41564&oldid=41562&rcid=45145 I got another one with the same error as above]. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 03:45, 27 February 2007 (PST)


[http://www.wikiindex.com/index.php?title=The_Organic_Design_Wiki&curid=6479&diff=33147&oldid=30537&rcid=34607 Here's another new one] from Recent Changes:
[http://www.wikiindex.com/index.php?title=The_Organic_Design_Wiki&curid=6479&diff=33147&oldid=30537&rcid=34607 Here's another new one] from Recent Changes:
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