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Nowadays we have spammers -- only IPs -- that place single nonsense words in existing pages.  
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[[User:John Stanton|John]] stated that we are not the only wiki that ist annoyed, they are testing the terrain before putting in real spam, said [[User:Felix|Felix]].
'''WikiProject: Junking bots''' — here on WikiIndex, we previously observed very specific [[:Category:Spam|spam]] attacks; only [[IP address]]es, that place single nonsense words in existing pages. [[User:John Stanton|John]] stated that we are not the only wiki site that is annoyed.  They are testing the terrain before putting in real [[spam]], said {{U|Felix}}.


I find it useful to block them for some days or weeks for the first. If we see them spamming again we can than block them even longer.
Turns out I was right, too.  Recently, I deleted several dozen links to adult content from a page. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 08:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT)


Maybe we should make blocked IPs visible. And describe why we did it. Let's start here, these are [[User:Peu|my]] babies:
We found it useful to block them for 3 days for the first, and even longer if we observe them junking after that.


*{{Blocked|59.151.53.100}}
==If YOU are blocked==
*{{Blocked|60.190.223.77}}
<big>If you, as a '''[[Special:ActiveUsers|normal user]]''', feel needlessly [[Special:BlockList|blocked]] due to a [https://WikiIndex.org/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=&wpOptions%5B%5D=userblocks&wpOptions%5B%5D=tempblocks&limit=250 blocked IP], please contact one of the [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|administrators]]. They will [[Special:Unblock|unblock]] you.</big>
*{{Blocked|60.190.243.173}}
*{{Blocked|60.218.98.94}}
*{{Blocked|61.145.97.234}}
*{{Blocked|62.94.22.196}}
*{{Blocked|62.231.243.139}}
*{{Blocked|64.27.5.49}}
*{{Blocked|64.34.180.180}}
*{{Blocked|64.59.139.153}}
*{{Blocked|65.44.66.100}}
*{{Blocked|66.249.2.50}}
*{{Blocked|72.36.130.90}}
*{{Blocked|74.231.24.2}}
*{{Blocked|82.148.98.34}}
*{{Blocked|83.149.19.6}}
*{{Blocked|84.243.216.139}}
*{{Blocked|84.244.169.201}}
*{{Blocked|85.17.186.161}}
*{{Blocked|87.101.244.10}}
*{{Blocked|157.102.7.19}}
*{{Blocked|195.8.168.252}}
*{{Blocked|202.28.27.3}}
*{{Blocked|202.70.201.34}}
*{{Blocked|207.96.209.34}}
*{{Blocked|208.109.86.198}}
*{{Blocked|212.72.30.140}}
*{{Blocked|216.23.162.164}}


should we create a whois plugin for MediaWiki?
==Lists of blocked IPs==
Maybe we should make [https://WikiIndex.org/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=&wpOptions%5B%5D=userblocks&wpOptions%5B%5D=tempblocks&limit=500 blocked IPs] visible, and describe why we have blocked them.


[[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has two built-in functions for keeping track of blocking actions on [[IP editor]]s and [[user]] accounts:
*the [[Special:Ipblocklist]] shows the current blocked ones (reach, expiry time) - ''Note: doesn't work here on WikiIndex, target page is [[Special:BlockList]]''.
*the [[Special:Log/block|block log]] shows each particular block action
This is the list of IPs blocked by [[User:Peu]] as a starting point.


and now, how to categorize it?:
==Block the 'bad' IPs==
* news?  
*<s>1 day</s> -- that's nonsense, they spam for short one day and paus 1 day (1 day is to little)
* guidelines
*3 days -- anon only, for the first
*1 week -- anon only, for the second
and make further comments on former blockings, for instance <tt>3d .. 1w</tt>, that means 3 days last, 1 week now.
 
Maybe I'm too radical, but in the case of a {{Template|spammer}} returning for a third time or so I'd block the [[IP editor]] for a longer time. Several months, at least. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 08:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
:Felix, an [[IP address]] is not a [[user]], it's a internet cafe or company or it's dynamically assigned to a user. You should consider this aspect. --[[Special:Contributions/87.160.141.40|87.160.141.40]] 15:47, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
::What's the difference, if the icafe's computers are infected and part of a botnet? Hopefully, in a few months they'll reinstall their OS. In the meantime, humans who want to [[edit]] can still make accounts. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 01:48, 14 October 2007 (EDT)
::: Ok, Felix, keep in mind to uncheck "block account creation" when you are about to block an IP, ragards --[[Special:Contributions/87.160.138.221|87.160.138.221]] 06:30, 14 October 2007 (EDT), thats's me, forgot to login --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:32, 14 October 2007 (EDT)
 
'''Make sure to uncheck "account creation"'''.  We are mostly [[spam]]med by IPs.
 
After having blocked a user, look at the contributions again.  Review all edits marked with <tt>'''top'''</tt>
 
''Think about watching pages.  All [[Special:UnwatchedPages|unwatched pages]] will be edited without any automatic email notifications.  Note for [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|sysops]]: you don't 'watch' pages automatically that you [[rollback]].''
 
==Should we create IP-pages?==
[[Special:ActiveUsers|Logged in users]] have their home spaces, why not bots? We could protect IP-pages against anon contributions, and elaborate the [[WikiIndex:Blocking and banning policy|blocking policy]] for each IP like this:
*spammer
*useful contributions
*shared
 
==reCaptcha for all anonymous edits?==
As of 2007-10-25 we are facing a huge wave of spamming. May I suggest we consider enabling reCaptcha for all anonymous edits, regardless of whether they add links or not? It's still more convenient for occasional contributors than having to sign up. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 00:40, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
:do you mean http://reCaptcha.net/ ? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 04:24, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
::http://reCaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 04:27, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
:: Um, yes, that's the one. We already have it integrated :) But currently it only shows up when an edit adds new links. I'd guess that's the reason why we haven't seen much actual link spam: it takes a human to overcome the captcha. But having to clean up lots of gibberish isn't less annoying.
:::I find it a good idea to have the captcha active on every anon edit (if it's not too hard to decipher for humans). I think John is the one who has access to the config settings. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 14:51, 25 October 2007 (EDT)
 
==Further reading==
*For the official WikiIndex policy, see [[WikiIndex: Blocking and banning policy]].
 
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