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'''WikiProject: Junking bots''' — here on WikiIndex, we previously observed very specific [[:Category:Spam|spam]] attacks; only [[IP address]]es, that place single nonsense words in existing pages. [[User:John Stanton|John]] stated that we are not the only wiki site that is annoyed. They are testing the terrain before putting in real [[spam]], said {{U|Felix}}. | |||
Turns out I was right, too. Recently, I deleted several dozen links to adult content from a page. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 08:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT) | Turns out I was right, too. Recently, I deleted several dozen links to adult content from a page. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 08:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
We found it useful to block them for 3 days | We found it useful to block them for 3 days for the first, and even longer if we observe them junking after that. | ||
== If YOU are blocked == | ==If YOU are blocked== | ||
<big>If you, as a '''normal user''', feel blocked due to a blocked IP, please contact one of the [[ | <big>If you, as a '''[[Special:ActiveUsers|normal user]]''', feel needlessly [[Special:BlockList|blocked]] due to a [https://WikiIndex.org/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=&wpOptions%5B%5D=userblocks&wpOptions%5B%5D=tempblocks&limit=250 blocked IP], please contact one of the [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|administrators]]. They will [[Special:Unblock|unblock]] you.</big> | ||
== Lists of blocked IPs == | ==Lists of blocked IPs== | ||
Maybe we should make blocked IPs visible and describe why we have blocked them. | Maybe we should make [https://WikiIndex.org/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=&wpOptions%5B%5D=userblocks&wpOptions%5B%5D=tempblocks&limit=500 blocked IPs] visible, and describe why we have blocked them. | ||
MediaWiki has two | [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has two built-in functions for keeping track of blocking actions on [[IP editor]]s and [[user]] accounts: | ||
* the [[Special:Ipblocklist]] shows the current blocked ones (reach,expiry time) | *the [[Special:Ipblocklist]] shows the current blocked ones (reach, expiry time) - ''Note: doesn't work here on WikiIndex, target page is [[Special:BlockList]]''. | ||
* the [ | *the [[Special:Log/block|block log]] shows each particular block action | ||
This is the list of IPs blocked by [[User:Peu]] as a starting point. | This is the list of IPs blocked by [[User:Peu]] as a starting point. | ||
== Block the | ==Block the 'bad' IPs== | ||
* <s>1 day </s> - that's nonsense, they spam for short one day and paus 1 day (1 day is to little) | *<s>1 day</s> -- that's nonsense, they spam for short one day and paus 1 day (1 day is to little) | ||
* 3 days | *3 days -- anon only, for the first | ||
* 1 week | *1 week -- anon only, for the second | ||
and make further comments on former blockings, for instance <tt>3d .. 1w</tt>, that means 3 days last, 1 week now. | and make further comments on former blockings, for instance <tt>3d .. 1w</tt>, that means 3 days last, 1 week now. | ||
Maybe I'm too radical, but in the case of a spammer returning for a third time or so I'd block the IP for a longer time. Several months, at least. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 08:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT) | Maybe I'm too radical, but in the case of a {{Template|spammer}} returning for a third time or so I'd block the [[IP editor]] for a longer time. Several months, at least. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 08:55, 13 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
:Felix, an IP is not a user, it's a internet cafe or company or it's dynamically assigned to a user. You should consider this aspect. --[[ | :Felix, an [[IP address]] is not a [[user]], it's a internet cafe or company or it's dynamically assigned to a user. You should consider this aspect. --[[Special:Contributions/87.160.141.40|87.160.141.40]] 15:47, 13 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
::What's the difference, if the icafe's computers are infected and part of a botnet? Hopefully, in a few months they'll reinstall their OS. In the meantime, humans who want to edit can still make accounts. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 01:48, 14 October 2007 (EDT) | ::What's the difference, if the icafe's computers are infected and part of a botnet? Hopefully, in a few months they'll reinstall their OS. In the meantime, humans who want to [[edit]] can still make accounts. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 01:48, 14 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
::: Ok, Felix, keep in mind to uncheck "block account creation" when you are about to block an IP, ragards --[[Special:Contributions/87.160.138.221|87.160.138.221]] 06:30, 14 October 2007 (EDT), thats's me, forgot to login --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 06:32, 14 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
'''Make | '''Make sure to uncheck "account creation"'''. We are mostly [[spam]]med by IPs. | ||
After having blocked | After having blocked a user, look at the contributions again. Review all edits marked with <tt>'''top'''</tt> | ||
''Think about watching pages. All [[Special:UnwatchedPages|unwatched pages]] will be edited without any automatic email notifications. Note for [[sysops]]: you don't watch pages automatically | ''Think about watching pages. All [[Special:UnwatchedPages|unwatched pages]] will be edited without any automatic email notifications. Note for [[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|sysops]]: you don't 'watch' pages automatically that you [[rollback]].'' | ||
== Should we create IP- | ==Should we create IP-pages?== | ||
Logged in users have their home spaces, why not bots | [[Special:ActiveUsers|Logged in users]] have their home spaces, why not bots? We could protect IP-pages against anon contributions, and elaborate the [[WikiIndex:Blocking and banning policy|blocking policy]] for each IP like this: | ||
* spammer | *spammer | ||
* useful contributions | *useful contributions | ||
* shared | *shared | ||
== | ==reCaptcha for all anonymous edits?== | ||
As of 2007-10-25 we are facing a huge wave of spamming. May I suggest we consider enabling reCaptcha for all anonymous edits, regardless of whether they add links or not? It's still more convenient for occasional contributors than having to sign up. -- [[Felix Pleşoianu]] | <small>[[User talk:Felix|talk]]</small> 00:40, 25 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:do you mean http://reCaptcha.net/ ? --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 04:24, 25 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
::http://reCaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 04:27, 25 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
:: Um, yes, that's the one. We already have it integrated :) But currently it only shows up when an edit adds new links. I'd guess that's the reason why we haven't seen much actual link spam: it takes a human to overcome the captcha. But having to clean up lots of gibberish isn't less annoying. | |||
:::I find it a good idea to have the captcha active on every anon edit (if it's not too hard to decipher for humans). I think John is the one who has access to the config settings. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 14:51, 25 October 2007 (EDT) | |||
==Further reading== | |||
*For the official WikiIndex policy, see [[WikiIndex: Blocking and banning policy]]. | |||
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