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(User wishes to thank DavidCarey for consideration & efforts given to this user. User doesn't wish to be on wiki. User is hopefully that Username can be off of wiki 4 career purposes. Best-)
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== right to vanish ==
She has not made one useful edit, [http://www.wikiindex.org/[{{{inactive}}}] her first userpage had a link to her website] while later edits [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=&oldid=66673 just say how good she thinks she is].  I don't think she's interested in helping us, she just uses us to advertise herself. There's [[]] with a link to her website and []] who wrote loads of stuff about her qualifications. 
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I think I may have made a mistake and thought she edited the Welcome page telling people about herself. I've looked at recent changes again and I think I mixed her edits up with someone else as in fact someone else edited the Welcome Template responsibly just before she edited, sorry. Let's leave her unblocked and see what she does. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 15:26, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
 
You deal with [[]] if anything needs to be done, she's back today. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 16:54, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
 
[[User:]] is writing more and more about herself but [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/hasn't made a useful contribution].  I see now [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&diff=prev&oldid=53873 she did edit the welcome template] with one of her accounts so I think a block was fair. She hasn't repeated it but since I know now that she did spam the welcome template I've put warnings onto the talk pages of both her accounts so any administrator who deals with her can see she's been warned. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:30, 16 June 2009 (EDT)
 
[[Use] now claims that she's new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.  I don't know if she's telling the truth and really mistook us for a social networking site or if she's playing sophisticated games and pretending she's been hurt.  [[User:Elassint]] put a message up with large letters saying, '''"Please note that we are an index of wiki, wiki people and wiki ideas, contributions outside of that scope may be treated as test edits and be removed."''' and she can't have edited any page without the chance to see that message.  Well sometimes people do overlook the obvious.  [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talkoldid=66842 I've apologized and explained what we're for]. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:18, 17 June 2009 (EDT)
 
:She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:She's sent me an email asking for all traces of her to disappear. I think that can be done. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 01:01, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:: What went wrong here, and is there anything I can do differently next time, so we have a better chance of things going right next time?
:: I find the WikiIndex and other wiki a useful resource, and they are growing and getting better all the time.
:: Alas, spammers are ruining it for everyone.
:: Proxima is valiantly fighting the spammers, which I appreciate.
:: What I'm seeing diverges so strongly from the above description that it makes me think I'm missing half the story.
:: As far as I can tell by looking at the "User contributions" pages, this person has never made an active link, which is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.", and inconsistent with "Spamming links to external sites".
:: As far as I can tell, she has posted only one URL one time (but without the WikiSyntax to make it active), and that one URL was on her user page (which has already been deleted, so normal users can't see that URL) -- far fewer than a typical spammer, and even fewer than the number of URLs at [[User:Proxima Centauri]], fewer than the number of URLs that Proxima Centauri posted to her user page [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=I&diff=prev&oldid=66674].
:: As far as I can tell, her later edits seem to be listing verifiable information about where she has worked to her user page, which seems similar to the way the [[User:Proxima Centauri]] page lists some of the other wiki he has worked on. I fail to see any claims that she was "good" at any of them, or any information about what she "thinks".
:: As far as I can tell, this person has made only a couple of edits before 8 June 2009, and none of her edits include any WikiSyntax formatting. This is consistent with the "new to this site and doesn't understand how to use it.".


:: Sean, I've put the {{tl|delete}} template on her user pages, and in a week or so I'll delete them.
:: Sean, I've put the {{tl|delete}} template on her user pages, and in a week or so I'll delete them.
:: That gives other people time to check out what actually happened before the evidence is lost.
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:: I wish that when someone asked "Please help", there is something more productive and friendly that we could do -- other than delete all evidence that person was ever here ([[MeatBall: RightToVanish]]).
:: I wish that when someone asked "Please help", there is something more productive and friendly that we could do -- other than delete all evidence that person was ever here ([[MeatBall: RightToVanish]]).
:: And in this particular case, I worry that a few minor mistakes by WikiIndex regulars will lead to a news reporter getting an incorrect understanding of wiki.
:: And in this particular case, I worry that a few minor mistakes by WikiIndex regulars will lead to a news reporter getting an incorrect understanding of wiki.
:: Sean, could you email this person and recommend trying some other, friendlier wiki -- perhaps some dedicated to topics she is interested in or dedicated to the city she lives in, wherever that might be? Perhaps we have a chance to prevent a news reporter from tarring all wiki with the same brush. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 05:39, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:: ... --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 05:39, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::What I gathered from a very brief email correspondence is that she googled herself, her page here came up pretty high, and she realized the newbie-ness of it has the potential for some embarrassment. Being a public figure I suppose you can't ever be too careful about what you have out there. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:24, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Just found [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/U this]. Looks like this isn't the first time this has happened. &mdash;&nbsp;<span style="font-family: Kristen ITC, Comic Sans MS;">[[User:Sean Fennel]][[User talk:Sean Fennel|@]]</span> 02:29, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Thanks for digging that up.  I had the feeling that she was playing some game, eg when I tried to apologise she just got more upset. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/i She vandalized Wikipedia] as well and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3 there for troublemaking. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 05:16, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
 
:::::I've recreated her userpage because I'm fed up of the way she got me into trouble and if [[User:Sean Fennel|Sean Fennel]] hadn’t tracked her down to Wikipedia she’d have got away with some of it.  I feel she’s intelligent and deceitful and we should warn people about her.  If other administrator disagree with me for recreating her page please delete it again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:41, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
 
:::::: What I'm seeing diverges so strongly from the above description that it makes me think I'm missing half the story. ''"she’d have got away with some of it"'' ? ''"deceitful"'' ? ''"troublemaking"'' ? ''"she got me into trouble"'' ?
:::::: Could you link to a diff supporting any of these accusations?
:::::: What I see is that over a year ago, she (1) blanked the WikiIndex [[Welcome]] page and a few pages at Wikipedia. Later she (2) put some information about herself, including a single URL to her non-wiki website (but without the WikiSyntax to make it active) on her "User" page. Then (3) she sent Sean Fennel an email asking for all traces of her at WikiIndex to disappear.
:::::: May I ask which of these 3 things was something "deceitful" that we don't want her to "get away with"? Or is there something else I'm missing? The (1) was wrong, but a common newbie mistake and arguably not "deceitful" -- and there's no chance that she would have gotten away with in 2009 since it was reverted soon after it happened in 2008 -- and apparently she's learned from that, since she hasn't done that in over a year. I fail to see how (2) or (3) even merit a block, much less a permanent page criticizing her without balance. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 03:21, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
 
This user has caused problems on [[Wikipedia]] where her [http://en.wikipedia.org/ user page] was blanked for spamming and her [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:] was also deleted.  She [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions Wikipedia and is permanently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%ed] there.  When she was here she played the same games and pretended she was naive though she knew what had happened at Wikipedia.  She says the accusations are false though anyone who folows the links can see that they are true.  I call that deceit and it's a bit unrealistic as anyone can follow the links and find out the truth.  I overlooked that the edit to the Welcome template was [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributionsast year] sorry, still I feel she was oversensitive when I warmed her.  She seems interested in self promotion and complaining and uninterested in editing constructively though '''constructive editors are allowed a little self promotion on their userpages'''. 
 
I agree it doesn't merit a page of permanent criticism and have deleted criticism after a week or so.  Is there any I overlooked?  [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:00, 14 July 2009 (EDT)


She reverted this section but I had to restore it to answer your questions, I suggest deleteing it after a day or two when people connected with this wiki have had a chance to see it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
... this section ... I suggest deleteing it after a day or two when people connected with this wiki have had a chance to see it. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:18, 14 July 2009 (EDT)


You must go back to [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:DavidCary&oldid=67799#PATRICIA_MARTELLOTTI this version] to find out the other side of the story. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 22:16, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
: I respect this one's desire to vanish from this wiki. I hope someday this one will choose to return to wiki, and become a respected contributor to this and other wiki.
: Done. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 17:17, 18 July 2009 (EDT)


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