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[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:52, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
[[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:52, 30 August 2009 (EDT)


===Arguments that Liberapedia should be included (rebuttals welcome)===
===Arguments that Liberapedia (or certain descriptions) should be included (rebuttals welcome)===
*They both devote a great deal of attention to Conservapedia.
(Please indent rebuttal's and place them under the argument in favor. Only bullet arguments in favor. I'm moving editors posts and making this like an outline, if no one minds. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:41, 31 August 2009 (EDT))
**As I said, RationalWiki is now trying to move away from that, mainly due to the fact that the most entertaining part of watching CP was seeing Andy bested in an argument by everyone and then blocking them all, which TK has put an end to. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:04, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
 
*They both devote a great deal of attention to Conservapedia. (Posted by [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]])
:As I said, RationalWiki is now trying to move away from that, mainly due to the fact that the most entertaining part of watching CP was seeing Andy bested in an argument by everyone and then blocking them all, which TK has put an end to. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:04, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::Well, perhaps someone is ''trying''. :) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:09, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::Well, perhaps someone is ''trying''. :) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:09, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::What about those who liked the olden days of RationalWiki, and they are looking for a wiki that is inclusive of criticism of Conservapedia? (We are not looking for exact similarity. If RW is changing this makes Liberapedia '''more''' notable, not less.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:54, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::What about those who liked the olden days of RationalWiki, and they are looking for a wiki that is inclusive of criticism of Conservapedia? (We are not looking for exact similarity. If RW is changing this makes Liberapedia '''more''' notable, not less.) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 13:54, 30 August 2009 (EDT)


*RationalWiki may "purge the mainspace of [Conservapedia] references", which may alienate a significant number of users who may be interested in a wiki that is inclusive of criticism of Conservapedia (and maybe less deletionist).
*RationalWiki may "purge the mainspace of [Conservapedia] references", which may alienate a significant number of users who may be interested in a wiki that is inclusive of criticism of Conservapedia (and maybe less deletionist). (Posted by [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]])
**We do have an extensive Conservapedia namespace. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:56, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:We do have an extensive Conservapedia namespace. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:56, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::Now I'm confused by your use of the bullet. Is this a rebuttal or misplaced supporting argument? ;-) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:09, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
::Is this a rebuttal or misplaced supporting argument? ;-) [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:41, 31 August 2009 (EDT)


*<del>Being that we are discussing merely a link, it doesn't take up very much space or detract from the article.</del>
*<del>Being that we are discussing merely a link, it doesn't take up very much space or detract from the article.</del> (Posted by [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]])
**It wasn't the link that was advertisement; it was her inserting a paragraph promoting LP as an alternative source of CP criticism. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:57, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:It wasn't the link that was advertisement; it was her inserting a paragraph promoting LP as an alternative source of CP criticism. [[User:Phantom Hoover|Phantom Hoover]] 13:57, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
::We could definitely use some help [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notablity|establishing a criteria to define "advertisements"]] in this sort of context, if you believe you are qualified to make this judgment alone or establish consensus or at least some "consensus groups", to move forward on this issue. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:26, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
::We could definitely use some help [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notablity|establishing a criteria to define "advertisements"]] in this sort of context, if you believe you are qualified to make this judgment alone or establish consensus or at least some "consensus groups", to move forward on this issue. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 02:26, 31 August 2009 (EDT)


*If we add only a link to [[Liberapedia]], this would not take up very much space or detract from the article.
*If we add only a link to [[Liberapedia]], this would not take up very much space or detract from the article. (Posted by [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]])
 
===Arguments that Liberapedia (or certain descriptions) should NOT be included (rebuttals welcome)===
(Please indent rebuttal's and place them under the argument. Only bullet arguments. I'm moving editors posts and making this like an outline, if no one minds. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:41, 31 August 2009 (EDT))
 
*If LP devotes a lot of time to CP this information should be in the LP article and the CP article. It is not, of itself, an argument for it to be in the RW article.--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 05:28, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
*If LP devotes a lot of time to CP this information should be in the LP article and the CP article. It is not, of itself, an argument for it to be in the RW article.--[[User:Bob M|Bob M]] 05:28, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
:Agreed that it should be in the Liberpedia article. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:41, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
:I don't see that that has anything to do with it being included here. Feel free to help with [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Notablity|development of notable policy for such information]]. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 06:41, 31 August 2009 (EDT)
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