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:: I also regret letting this get out of hand. It appears at least one sysop is no longer active here[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Proxima_Centauri&diff=prev&oldid=70795], apparently as a result of this conflict over the WikiIndex RationalWiki page and my sad attempts to first ignore it and later flailing about to Do Something about it. | :: I also regret letting this get out of hand. It appears at least one sysop is no longer active here[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User:Proxima_Centauri&diff=prev&oldid=70795], apparently as a result of this conflict over the WikiIndex RationalWiki page and my sad attempts to first ignore it and later flailing about to Do Something about it. | ||
:: I'm not sure what the best approach is now. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:28, 10 September 2009 (EDT) | :: I'm not sure what the best approach is now. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 01:28, 10 September 2009 (EDT) | ||
:::I'm not sure there was any way for you to prevent things getting "out of hand" and I think you have done more than any of the rest of the administration, to help resolve conflicts here. But there is only so much you can do when it is not your problem you are trying to fix. [[User:Nx|Nx's exit was a little more uum dramatic]] ;-). I made mistakes but ultimately it is his choice if he doesn't want to work it out. They were both very helpful in their way but, when they didn't get their way, they became controlling and demanding, instead of seeking a workable solution such as arbitration, or to offer their terms of a peace agreement (policy). [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:30, 13 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::I don't think it will ever be clear to you, what you should do, unless you can get feedback from the community of readers, editors, and other administrators. How can you know the solution when it isn't your problem? That is what the policy development page is for. My opponents have an understandable concern that my way of thinking is weighted more heavily on that page. I'm not sure they have really read it, but perhaps a different version could gain broader support. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:30, 13 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
:::As for the present issue, I have already written some questions before I saw your post here. (These questions are for you, Dilley, or any other admins who want to answer.) I will post them here: | |||
::::What can we can do to get your vote for unprotecting the articles: [[RationalWiki]], [[A Storehouse of Knowledge]], [[RationalWikiWiki]], and [[Liberapedia]]? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:30, 13 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::I never understood why it was done in the first place. Are people involved in the conflict supposed to be agreeing on a version to move out into "mainspace", or are we voting basically to unprotect the article? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:30, 13 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::[[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Administrative_powers|I've made a policy "proposal" (or suggestion) that the administration not protect articles simply because there is "edit warring" over them, unless someone requests protection. If an administrator personally feels the article is biased, etc, that would be another "good" reason to protect an article, in my view.]] You're input on that suggestion, would be appreciated, there or here. [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:30, 13 September 2009 (EDT) | |||
::::Is protecting a page, a consequence of [[WikiIndex:Policies_and_Guidelines#Editor.27s_powers|"edit sparring", etc]]? Are we not supposed to be having "conflicts" if we don't want pages protected? [[User:Lumenos|Lumenos]] 17:30, 13 September 2009 (EDT) | |||