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Just discovering via Chris Messina some potential uses of "declarative" [[Microformats]] on wikis and any other web platforms. FYI, the [[BarCamp]]-wiki currently uses them. You know perhaps I'm not a programmer, but I'm still questioning on the way to integrate theses future wiki-formats for the wikiindex-[[StructuredData]] project ? Sorry for this newbie question. Perhaps this question has been asked elsewhere ? Currently thinking to this  "hreview" attribute and the uses in the future wikis. -- [[ChristopheDucamp]] 06:37, 15 June 2006 (EDT)
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==Initial thoughts==
Just discovering via Chris Messina some potential uses of "declarative" [[microformats]] on [[wiki]]s and any other [[:Category:Web|web]] platforms. FYI, the [[BarCamp]]-wiki currently uses them. You know perhaps I'm not a programmer, but I'm still questioning on the way to integrate theses future wiki-formats for the [[WikiIndex:WikiIndex:Structured data]] project? Sorry for this newbie question. Perhaps this question has been asked elsewhere ? Currently thinking to this  "hreview" attribute and the uses in the future wikis. -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] 06:37, 15 June 2006 (EDT)


:Hi Christophe, most people that are here are not currently programmers either, so no worries.  I barely understand [[Microformats]]. We discussed them while [[WikiVanning]] to [[WikiSym]], but that was a while ago and in the midst of a lot of incoming data.  I think it is a great conversation to start/continue/flush out. [[MarkDilley]]
:Hi Christophe, most people that are here are not currently programmers either, so no worries.  I barely understand [[microformats]]. We discussed them while [[meatball:WikiVanning|WikiVanning]] to [[WikiSym]], but that was a while ago and in the midst of a lot of incoming data.  I think it is a great conversation to start/continue/flush out. [[MarkDilley]]
: Christophe, I briefly went to find what you are talking about at the [[BarCamp]] wiki, but didn't get there.  Can you give a link. Thanks, [[MarkDilley]]
: Christophe, I briefly went to find what you are talking about at the [[BarCamp]] wiki, but didn't get there.  Can you give a link. Thanks, [[MarkDilley]]


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''Bonjour Mark et Ted. Just a link on our last [[http://barcamp.org/BarCampParisSiliconSentier barcamp in paris]]. If you have ms-windows you could test this firefox-plugin extension [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2240/ tails export] which is useful to show some hCard (vcf file]
''Bonjour Mark et Ted. Just a link on our last [[http://barcamp.org/BarCampParisSiliconSentier barcamp in paris]]. If you have ms-windows you could test this firefox-plugin extension [[Archive.org:20111016112409/https://addons.Mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/tails-export/|tails export]] which is useful to show some hCard (vcf file]
hCalendar [export to .ics file], hReview, xFolk, Rel-license... I'm not sure but I think we could bridge some "tags/categories" with microformats. Currently thinking about the creation of a [[http://barcamp.org/WorldWineWiki world wine wiki]] index, I discovered we could create any formats like this wine-format written for wine review : http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2006/06/10/wineformats.html. So my suggestion here would be just to talk about the future of pairing wikireview and microformats ? -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small>05:12, 16 June 2006 (EDT)''
hCalendar [export to .ics file], hReview, xFolk, Rel-license... I'm not sure but I think we could bridge some "tags/categories" with microformats. Currently thinking about the creation of a [[http://barcamp.org/WorldWineWiki world wine wiki]] index, I discovered we could create any formats like this wine-format written for wine review : http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2006/06/10/wineformats.html. So my suggestion here would be just to talk about the future of pairing WikiReview and microformats ? -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small>05:12, 16 June 2006 (EDT)''
 
== more please, still ==


==more please, still==
Christophe, I still need help in understanding the implications here.  I think I sorta get it. [[MarkDilley]]
Christophe, I still need help in understanding the implications here.  I think I sorta get it. [[MarkDilley]]


: Gregoire just edited the omidyar.net page for the Chicago conference to link to a microformat for ical.  I can't say I understand what this means, but check it out: http://www.omidyar.net/group/conference/ws/Chicago06/ [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 09:27, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
: Gregoire just edited the [[omidyar.net]] page for the Chicago conference to link to a microformat for ical.  I can't say I understand what this means, but check it out: [[Archive.org:20070320081702/http://www.omidyar.net/group/conference/ws/chicago06/|http://www.omidyar.net/group/conference/ws/Chicago06/]] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 09:27, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
: Gregoire has also opened a discussion at omidyar.net about microformats: http://www.omidyar.net/group/issues-tech/news/104/ [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:03, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
:: Gregoire has also opened a discussion at omidyar.net about microformats: http://www.omidyar.net/group/issues-tech/news/104/<sup>[dead EL]</sup>  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:03, 19 June 2006 (EDT)




Bonjour. Gregoire is very nice french guy just arriving on [[http://www.wikiservice.at/fractal/wikidev.cgi?FR/MicroFormats|FractalWiki:FR/Microformats]] (where I'm currently testing wiki-hCard and hCalendar... not very clean I know because it's just html-dropping). My first feeling is that microformats in wiki could be huge and especially the "rel-tag" microformat. IMO, WikiIndex could become an interesting web-platform especially on :   
My first feeling is that microformats in wiki could be huge and especially the "rel-tag" microformat. IMO, WikiIndex could become an interesting web-platform especially on :   
* rel-tag microformat:consider WikiIndex as a [[http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag#Tags_Spaces|Tag-Space]] to invite people to tag each time they quote wikis on the web ?
* [http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag rel-tag] microformat:consider WikiIndex as a [http://microformats.org/wiki?title=rel-tag#Tags_Spaces Tag-Space] to invite people to tag each time they quote wikis on the web ?
* hCard for people identity :could be automocally ''hcarded'' via the nice forms you've installed.
* [http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard hCard] for people identity :could be automocally ''hcarded'' via the nice forms you've installed.
* hReview for wikis, and books  
* [http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview hReview] for wikis, and books  
* ...  
* ...  


This is just a first exploration, I'm a real newbie on this question. But my suggestion would be to invite you to talk/ask in the #microformat channel on freenodes. The idea could be to talk on the way to automatically transform any [[StructuredData]] typed by the user in your forms to standards Microformats. Let's say I'm still enthusiast to continue this exploration. Regards.  --- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 11:43, 29 June 2006 (EDT)
This is just a first exploration, I'm a real newbie on this question. But my suggestion would be to invite you to talk/ask in the #microformat channel on freenodes. The idea could be to talk on the way to automatically transform any [[WikiIndex:WikiIndex:Structured data|WikiIndex:Structured data]] typed by the user in your forms to standards Microformats. Let's say I'm still enthusiast to continue this exploration. Regards.  --- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheDucamp|talk]]</small> 11:43, 29 June 2006 (EDT)

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Initial thoughts[edit]

Just discovering via Chris Messina some potential uses of "declarative" microformats on wikis and any other web platforms. FYI, the BarCamp-wiki currently uses them. You know perhaps I'm not a programmer, but I'm still questioning on the way to integrate theses future wiki-formats for the WikiIndex:WikiIndex:Structured data project? Sorry for this newbie question. Perhaps this question has been asked elsewhere ? Currently thinking to this "hreview" attribute and the uses in the future wikis. -- Christophe Ducamp 06:37, 15 June 2006 (EDT)

Hi Christophe, most people that are here are not currently programmers either, so no worries. I barely understand microformats. We discussed them while WikiVanning to WikiSym, but that was a while ago and in the midst of a lot of incoming data. I think it is a great conversation to start/continue/flush out. MarkDilley
Christophe, I briefly went to find what you are talking about at the BarCamp wiki, but didn't get there. Can you give a link. Thanks, MarkDilley

I have no idea what any of this is. TedErnst | talk 12:48, 15 June 2006 (EDT)


Bonjour Mark et Ted. Just a link on our last [barcamp in paris]. If you have ms-windows you could test this firefox-plugin extension tails export which is useful to show some hCard (vcf file] hCalendar [export to .ics file], hReview, xFolk, Rel-license... I'm not sure but I think we could bridge some "tags/categories" with microformats. Currently thinking about the creation of a [world wine wiki] index, I discovered we could create any formats like this wine-format written for wine review : http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2006/06/10/wineformats.html. So my suggestion here would be just to talk about the future of pairing WikiReview and microformats ? -- Christophe Ducamp | talk05:12, 16 June 2006 (EDT)

more please, still[edit]

Christophe, I still need help in understanding the implications here. I think I sorta get it. MarkDilley

Gregoire just edited the omidyar.net page for the Chicago conference to link to a microformat for ical. I can't say I understand what this means, but check it out: http://www.omidyar.net/group/conference/ws/Chicago06/ TedErnst | talk 09:27, 19 June 2006 (EDT)
Gregoire has also opened a discussion at omidyar.net about microformats: http://www.omidyar.net/group/issues-tech/news/104/[dead EL] TedErnst | talk 12:03, 19 June 2006 (EDT)


My first feeling is that microformats in wiki could be huge and especially the "rel-tag" microformat. IMO, WikiIndex could become an interesting web-platform especially on :

  • rel-tag microformat:consider WikiIndex as a Tag-Space to invite people to tag each time they quote wikis on the web ?
  • hCard for people identity :could be automocally hcarded via the nice forms you've installed.
  • hReview for wikis, and books
  • ...

This is just a first exploration, I'm a real newbie on this question. But my suggestion would be to invite you to talk/ask in the #microformat channel on freenodes. The idea could be to talk on the way to automatically transform any WikiIndex:Structured data typed by the user in your forms to standards Microformats. Let's say I'm still enthusiast to continue this exploration. Regards. --- Christophe Ducamp | talk 11:43, 29 June 2006 (EDT)