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==Choosing a name==
==Choosing a name==
===If [[wiki]] uses various names===
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I created a table to present and clarify my ideas. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 11:26, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
I created a table to present and clarify my ideas. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 11:26, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
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:[[WikiIndex:Naming conventions|Naming guidelines]] discussion can move to [[CamelCase]] or [[Free link]]s or both - I lost in an [[edit conflict]] what I had wrote here about the subject, will get back to it later, Best [[MarkDilley]]
:[[WikiIndex:Naming conventions|Naming guidelines]] discussion can move to [[CamelCase]] or [[Free link]]s or both - I lost in an [[edit conflict]] what I had wrote here about the subject, will get back to it later, Best [[MarkDilley]]


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:::I meant that you have an article about MeatballWiki in [[MeatballWiki]] because the wiki is called MeatballWiki. Sorry if I didn't say it clearly enough. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 17:19, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
:::I meant that you have an article about MeatballWiki in [[MeatballWiki]] because the wiki is called MeatballWiki. Sorry if I didn't say it clearly enough. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 17:19, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)


For Meatball, there's no debate, I think.  If it were called Meatball Wiki, then our page would be [[Meatball Wiki]].  It's clear, yes?  (''See below next heading for this next pair of sentences repeated with responses:'') But what about guidelines and other meta pages?  Are we using namespaces for them?  Are we using camel case or something else?  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 17:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
For Meatball, there's no debate, I think.  If it were called Meatball Wiki, then our page would be 'Meatball Wiki'.  It's clear, yes?  (''See below next heading for this next pair of sentences repeated with responses:'') But what about guidelines and other meta pages?  Are we using namespaces for them?  Are we using camel case or something else?  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 17:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)


:I agree absolutely - Wiki names (in text and in their own page name) as the wikis call themselves (as far as we can). Example of what not to do: if we got a wiki that managed to get away with calling itself Micro Soft we'd be in trouble calling it MicroSoft! [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 00:32, 7 Mar 2006 (EST)
:I agree absolutely - Wiki names (in text and in their own page name) as the wikis call themselves (as far as we can). Example of what not to do: if we got a wiki that managed to get away with calling itself Micro Soft we'd be in trouble calling it MicroSoft! [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 00:32, 7 Mar 2006 (EST)
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For Meatball, there's no debate, I think.  If it were called Meatball Wiki, then our page would be [[Meatball Wiki]].  It's clear, yes?  But what about '''guidelines and other meta pages'''?  Are we using namespaces for them?  Are we using camel case or something else?  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 17:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
For Meatball, there's no debate, I think.  If it were called Meatball Wiki, then our page would be 'Meatball Wiki'.  It's clear, yes?  But what about '''guidelines and other meta pages'''?  Are we using namespaces for them?  Are we using camel case or something else?  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 17:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)




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==Naming Wikimedia wikis==
==Naming Wikimedia wikis==
I think that the present guidelines present a problem with naming articles for [[:Category:Wikimedia|Wikimedia]] wikis and any similar wikis.  http://wikipedia.org, for example, is just a gateway to wikipedias in over 120 languages.  The [[Wikipedia]] article should be a general overview of those Wikipedias.  I think there should also be [[WikiIndex]] articles on at least the Top 10 or Top 20 Wikipedias.  For this to happen, the article names should probably be the Wiki's URL (minus http://), so the article for the English-language Wikipedia would be at [[en.wikipedia.org]], the Japanese-languages WIkipedia would be at [[ja.wikipedia.org]], etc. [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] 05:23, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)
I think that the present guidelines present a problem with naming articles for [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] wikis and any similar wikis.  https://www.Wikipedia.org, for example, is just a gateway to wikipedias in over 120 languages.  The [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] article should be a general overview of those Wikipedias.  I think there should also be [[WikiIndex]] articles on at least the Top 10 or Top 20 Wikipedias.  For this to happen, the article names should probably be the Wiki's URL (minus <tt><nowiki>http://</nowiki></tt>), so the article for the English-language Wikipedia would be at 'en.wikipedia.org', the Japanese-languages Wikipedia would be at 'ja.wikipedia.org', etc. [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] 05:23, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)


: I agree with you that the [[Wikipedia]] page needs to be an overview, or a [[WikiIndex:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page of some sort.  No one's gotten to doing that yet.  Want to get it started?  Another alternative to naming the languages would be [[Wikipedia (English)]], [[Wikipedia (Japanese)]], etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:19, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)
: I agree with you that the [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] page needs to be an overview, or a [[WikiIndex:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] page of some sort.  No one's gotten to doing that yet.  Want to get it started?  Another alternative to naming the languages would be 'Wikipedia (English)', 'Wikipedia (Japanese)', etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:19, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)


: I just found [[Simple English Wikipedia]].  That would be a 3rd option for naming conventions.  [[English Wikipedia]], [[Japanese Wikipedia]] etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:42, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)
: I just found [[Simple English Wikipedia]].  That would be a 3rd option for naming conventions.  [[English Wikipedia]], [[Japanese Wikipedia]] etc. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 13:42, 16 Mar 2006 (EST)


==naming places that host lots of wiki==
==naming places that host lots of wiki==
I think I messed up with [[Near-Time]] and [[StikiPad]].  They are technically not wiki -- they are '[[wiki farm]]s' that allow lots of people to set up lots of wiki.  So ... to be consistent with what people seem to already be doing, (such as [[:Category:TaoRiver]] and [[Pbwiki]] which redirects to [[:Category:Pbwiki]]), should we "move" (rename) them into the Category: namespace, a sub-category of [[:Category:WikiFarm]]?
I think I messed up with [[Near-Time]] and [[StikiPad]].  They are technically not wiki -- they are '[[wiki farm]]s' that allow lots of people to set up lots of wiki.  So ... to be consistent with what people seem to already be doing, (such as [[:Category:TaoRiver]] and 'Pbwiki' which redirects to [[:Category:PBwiki]]), should we "move" (rename) them into the Category: namespace, a sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki farm]]?


I expected the people who set up Near-Time and StikiPad -- obviously familiar with how wonderful wiki are -- to have a prominent link to a wiki holding FAQs about that host.  I am a bit surprised that not only is there no prominent link, I can't even find an obscure link.  I'm starting to suspect -- maybe there is no wiki about Near-Time or StikiPad? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:17, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
I expected the people who set up Near-Time and StikiPad -- obviously familiar with how wonderful wiki are -- to have a prominent link to a wiki holding FAQs about that host.  I am a bit surprised that not only is there no prominent link, I can't even find an obscure link.  I'm starting to suspect -- maybe there is no wiki about Near-Time or StikiPad? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 23:17, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
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===2012 current status===
===2012 current status===
====wiki engines====
====wiki engines====
Following on from the above standard, the basic wiki engine will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:Wiki Engine]], and will have an infobox rendered via the <tt>{{template|Wiki Engine}}</tt> template (now with a orange border).  However, if the said wiki engine also has its own wiki - say as a management administration 'help desk' or similar, then it will also have its own separate article in the main namespace, and will have its infobox rendered via the standard <tt>{{template|Wiki}}</tt> template (with the default black border); with the description prose clearly detailing the relationship between the namespace wiki article to the category wiki engine.
Following on from the above standard, the basic wiki engine will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:Wiki engine]], and will have an infobox rendered via the <tt>{{template|Wiki engine}}</tt> template (now with a orange border).  However, if the said wiki engine also has its own wiki - say as a management administration 'help desk' or similar, then it will also have its own separate article in the main namespace, and will have its infobox rendered via the standard <tt>{{template|Wiki}}</tt> template (with the default black border); with the description prose clearly detailing the relationship between the namespace wiki article to the category wiki engine.


A handy tip for the administration wiki: when listing it in its relevant wiki engine category, use a pipe then a space in the category, eg, for [[MediaWiki]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:MediaWiki| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box, and this will then list it at the begining of all other category listings.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)
A handy tip for the administration wiki: when listing it in its relevant wiki engine category, use a pipe then a space in the category, eg, for [[MediaWiki]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:MediaWiki| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box, and this will then list it at the begining of all other category listings.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)


====wiki farms====
====Wiki farms====
Wiki farms will follow the same format - the basic wiki farm will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:WikiFarm]], the infobox will be rendered via the <tt>{{template|Wiki Farm}}</tt> (now with a green border), and any wikis used for the administration of the said engine will be in the main namespace, eg, for [[Wikkii.com]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Wikkii| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box.
Wiki farms will follow the same format - the basic wiki farm will be a subcategory of  [[:Category:Wiki farm]], the infobox will be rendered via the <tt>{{Template|Wiki farm}}</tt> (now with a green border), and any wikis used for the administration of the said engine will be in the main namespace, eg, for [[Wikkii.com]], add <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Wikkii| ]]</nowiki></tt> at the bottom of the edit box.


For those where there is no clear definition of weather it is primarilly a wiki engine or a wiki farm - such as say [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]], use your best judgement as to which template to use for its infobox.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)
For those where there is no clear definition of weather it is primarilly a wiki engine or a wiki farm - such as say [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]], use your best judgement as to which template to use for its infobox.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 07:04, 28 September 2012 (PDT)


== Multiple wiki names of the same names ==
==Multiple wiki names of the same names==
 
There are multiple [[:Category:Wikia|wikias]] I'm gonna add that have the same name (and they're all in English), for examples:
There are multiple wikias I'm gonna add that have the same name (and they're all in English), for examples:
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!name!!URL!!description
!Name
!URL
!Description
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|Idea Wiki
|[[Idea Wiki]]||http://ideas.wikia.com/||The more popular one
|http://ideas.wikia.com/
|The more popular one
|-
|-
|Idea Wiki
|Idea Wiki||http://idea.wikia.com/||The less popular one
|http://idea.wikia.com/
|The less popular one
|-
|-
|Video Games Fanon Wiki
|[[Video Games Fanon Wiki]]||http://videogames-fanon.wikia.com/||More popular
|http://videogames-fanon.wikia.com/
|More popular
|-
|-
|Video Games Fanon Wiki
|Video Games Fanon Wiki||http://videogamesfanon.wikia.com/||Less popular
|http://videogamesfanon.wikia.com/
|Less popular
|-
|-
|Video Game Ideas Wiki
|[[Video Game Ideas Wiki]]||http://videogameideas.wikia.com/||Dormant wiki
|http://videogameideas.wikia.com/
|Dormant wiki
|-
|-
|Video Game Ideas Wiki
|Video Game Ideas Wiki||http://vgi.wikia.com/||Both of them are dormant, though
|http://vgi.wikia.com/
|Both of them are dormant, though
|-
|-
|Angry Birds Wiki
|Angry Birds Wiki||[[Angry Birds Wiki]]||Less popular one, English
|[[Angry Birds Wiki]]
|Less popular one, English
|-
|-
|Angry Birds Wiki
|Angry Birds Wiki||[[Angry Birds Wiki (1)]]||More popular one, English
|[[Angry Birds Wiki (1)]]
|More popular one, English
|-
|-
|Angry Birds Wiki
|Angry Birds Wiki||[[Angry Birds Wiki (2)]]||I founded this one, Dormant, in Tagalog
|[[Angry Birds Wiki (2)]]
|I founded this one. Dormant, in Tagalog.
|}
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What should I do? This ain't mentioned in the page. '''[[User:Luis Anton Imperial|Luis]]''' ([[User talk:Luis Anton Imperial|talk]]) ([http://guestbook.wikia.com/wiki/User:AStranger195/Guestbook guestbook]) 03:12, 3 June 2015 (PDT)
What should I do? This ain't mentioned in the page. '''[[User:Luis Anton Imperial|Luis]]''' ([[User talk:Luis Anton Imperial|talk]]) ([http://guestbook.wikia.com/wiki/User:AStranger195/Guestbook guestbook]) 03:12, 3 June 2015 (PDT)
:We usually create a separate page for each individual wiki site, with the unique domain in brackets, each with their own [[Template:Wiki|infobox]].  We then create a disambiguation page listing all wikis from any original simple name.  Your examples all list Wikia sites, however, if the <u>same</u> wiki has moved from one domain name to another, we have two infoboxes in the one article, the first infobox with their original set of URLs (ideally with [[Archive.org]] or similar links), and the second infobox containing the new current domain URLs.  HTH.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:52, 9 May 2017 (PDT)
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