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Wiki-Noding is an important project that will ultimately allow users to discover entire wiki worlds by traversing the node network.  See [[WikiNodes]] for more info.
'''Wiki-Noding''' is an important project that will ultimately allow users to discover entire [[wiki]] worlds by traversing the node network.  See [[WikiNodes Wiki]] for more info.


We think every wiki needs a page (called "WikiNode") that briefly describes the wiki and the top 7 or so closely related wikis.  Why do you want a WikiNode on your wiki?
We think every wiki needs a page (called "[[WikiNode]]") that briefly describes the wiki and the top 7 or so closely related wikis.  Why do you want a WikiNode on your wiki?
* It gives you a third choice: rather than letting off-topic pages accumulate (taking your wiki in a direction you don't want it to go), or deleting not-quite-on-topic pages (angering your users), you can move such a page to some other wiki where it is more on-topic.
* It gives you a third choice: rather than letting off-topic pages accumulate (taking your wiki in a direction you don't want it to go), or deleting not-quite-on-topic pages (angering your users), you can move such a page to some other wiki where it is more on-topic.
* Sometimes people write wonderful articles that you would love to have on your wiki. But because those people didn't know about your wiki, they post their article on some other wiki, where it is not-quite-on-topic. The WikiNode network helps that person (or some other person at that wiki) find out about your wiki and move that article to your wiki -- rather than letting that wonderful article be deleted and lost forever.
* Sometimes people write wonderful articles that you would love to have on your wiki. But because those people didn't know about your wiki, they post their article on some other wiki, where it is not-quite-on-topic. The WikiNode network helps that person (or some other person at that wiki) find out about your wiki and move that article to your wiki -- rather than letting that wonderful article be deleted and lost forever.


==current state of project Wiki-Noding==
==current state of project Wiki-Noding==
We can create boilerplate WikiNodes for the various [[:Category:Wiki Engine|engines]], then visit each wiki from that engine and drop in the boilerplate on a page called WikiNode.
We can create [[:Category:Boilerplate|boilerplate]] WikiNodes for the various [[:Category:Wiki engine|engines]], then visit each wiki from that engine and drop in the boilerplate on a page called WikiNode.


The second step, which we do not do, is to add a link from WikiIndex to the WikiNode in question.  We don't do it because the boilerplate isn't useful as a WikiNode yet, until that community takes on the editing of the page.  They can come to WikiIndex and link from their page to their own WikiNode once they've taken over it's care.
The second step, which we do not do, is to add a link from WikiIndex to the WikiNode in question.  We don't do it because the boilerplate isn't useful as a WikiNode yet, until that community takes on the editing of the page.  They can come to WikiIndex and link from their page to their own WikiNode once they've taken over it's care.


==boilerplates and current work==
==boilerplates and current work==
*[[WikiProject:Wiki-Noding/UseMod boilerplate]] - done [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:40, 5 September 2006 (EDT)
*[[Template:Wiki-Noding - UseMod-OddMuse boilerplate]] N, O, P, Q, R, T, V, W, Z remain in [[:Category:Oddmuse]] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:13, 5 September 2006 (EDT)
*[[WikiProject:Wiki-Noding/OddMuse boilerplate]] - N, O, P, Q, R, T, V, W, Z remain in [[:Category:Oddmuse]] [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:13, 5 September 2006 (EDT)
*[[Template:Wiki-Noding - MediaWiki boilerplate]]
*[[WikiProject:Wiki-Noding/MediaWiki boilerplate]] ([[WikiProject:Wiki-Noding/MediaWiki boilerplate/de|german version]])
*[[Template:Wiki-Noding - MediaWiki boilerplate (de)]] – German version
*add them for your favorite engines here!
*add them for your favorite engines here!


==wiki-nodes==
==wiki-nodes==
*http://web.archive.org/web/20070720194530/wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/FrontPage
*https://web.archive.org/web/20070720194530/wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.cgi/FrontPage
*http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.fcg/WikiNodesNetworksInTheWorld
*http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net/moin.fcg/WikiNodesNetworksInTheWorld


==older stuff that needs to be refactored or cleaned up or something==
==older stuff that needs to be refactored or cleaned up or something==
* Add Wiki Node link to the article page (if any), if not, create one on the destination site first.  This step generally needs to be done for a group of related wikis before the next step below.
* Add WikiNode link to the article page (if any), if not, create one on the destination site first.  This step generally needs to be done for a group of related wikis before the next step below.
** There is a proposal in [[Proposals]] that is for creating future links instead of creating a WikiNode.
** There is a proposal in [[:Category:Proposals|Proposals]] that is for creating future links instead of creating a WikiNode.
* Add Wiki Nodes of neighbors at destination site.  This can be done more easily after step one, where [[WikiNodes]] are present in the group of wikis that are in view.
* Add WikiNodes of neighbors at destination site.  This can be done more easily after step one, where [[WikiNode]]s are present in the group of wikis that are in view.
* Here are a couple of MediaWiki examples (would be good to add examples from each engine):
* Here are a couple of MediaWiki examples (would be good to add examples from each engine):
** http://icannwiki.org/WikiNode
** http://icannwiki.org/WikiNode
** http://www.chicagowikiarts.org/wiki/index.php?title=WikiNode (here's a minimal one without any neighbors yet, or even knowing anything about the wiki itself using [[WikiProject:Wiki-Noding/MediaWiki boilerplate]] and [[WikiProject:Wiki-Noding/UseMod-OddMuse boilerplate]])
** http://www.chicagowikiarts.org/wiki/index.php?title=WikiNode (here's a minimal one without any neighbors yet, or even knowing anything about the wiki itself using [[Template:Wiki-Noding - MediaWiki boilerplate]] and [[Template:Wiki-Noding - UseMod-OddMuse boilerplate]])
** http://www.acadine.org/w/WikiNode (note that this doesn't link back to wikiindex, so needs to be edited)
** http://www.acadine.org/w/WikiNode (note that this doesn't link back to wikiindex, so needs to be edited)


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==MediaWiki==
==MediaWiki==
I don't understand either of these 2 pages:
I don't understand either of these 2 pages:
* [[MediaWiki:Wikinode]]
*MediaWiki:Wikinode
* [[MediaWiki:Wikinode-url]]
*MediaWiki:Wikinode-url
Do they have a purpose, or were they accidentally created?  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 13:09, 3 March 2009 (EST)
Do they have a purpose, or were they accidentally created?  --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 13:09, 3 March 2009 (EST)


: ''David, it looks like Sean and Smiddle were trying to do something, but I can't figure it out either.'' [[MarkDilley]]
: ''David, it looks like [[Sean]] and [[Smiddle]] were trying to do something, but I can't figure it out either.'' [[MarkDilley]]
:: ''also here is the [http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net Archive.org link for the site]
:: ''also here is the [[Archive.org]] link [[Archive.org:*/http://wikinodes.wiki.taoriver.net|for the site]]
::: Looks like these were made for putting a WikiNode link in the sidebar. --[[User:59.154.2.59|59.154.2.59]] 18:11, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
::: Looks like these were made for putting a WikiNode link in the sidebar. --[[Special:Contributions/59.154.2.59|59.154.2.59]] 18:11, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
:::: I agree with [[Special:Contributions/59.154.2.59|59.154.2.59]]. We can find that they are used in [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] --[[User:Zhuyifei1999|Zhuyifei1999]] ([[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]) 20:46, 29 March 2013 (PDT)


[[Category:Wikis with a WikiNode| ]]
[[Category:Wikis with a WikiNode| ]]

Latest revision as of 15:12, 11 April 2023

Wiki-Noding is an important project that will ultimately allow users to discover entire wiki worlds by traversing the node network. See WikiNodes Wiki for more info.

We think every wiki needs a page (called "WikiNode") that briefly describes the wiki and the top 7 or so closely related wikis. Why do you want a WikiNode on your wiki?

  • It gives you a third choice: rather than letting off-topic pages accumulate (taking your wiki in a direction you don't want it to go), or deleting not-quite-on-topic pages (angering your users), you can move such a page to some other wiki where it is more on-topic.
  • Sometimes people write wonderful articles that you would love to have on your wiki. But because those people didn't know about your wiki, they post their article on some other wiki, where it is not-quite-on-topic. The WikiNode network helps that person (or some other person at that wiki) find out about your wiki and move that article to your wiki -- rather than letting that wonderful article be deleted and lost forever.

current state of project Wiki-Noding[edit]

We can create boilerplate WikiNodes for the various engines, then visit each wiki from that engine and drop in the boilerplate on a page called WikiNode.

The second step, which we do not do, is to add a link from WikiIndex to the WikiNode in question. We don't do it because the boilerplate isn't useful as a WikiNode yet, until that community takes on the editing of the page. They can come to WikiIndex and link from their page to their own WikiNode once they've taken over it's care.

boilerplates and current work[edit]

wiki-nodes[edit]

older stuff that needs to be refactored or cleaned up or something[edit]

  • Here is an example that is less clear:
    • Toothy Cat
      • Amongst several issues, this brings up how to link back to WikiIndex. If we include a pointer back to our Wiki-Node, does that mean that we have to include them in our neighbor listing? Or should we just link back to the project? If we don't know of other wikis that would be included on the wiki node, should we hold off on creating one for a wiki? or not? Best, MarkDilley | talk

MediaWiki[edit]

I don't understand either of these 2 pages:

  • MediaWiki:Wikinode
  • MediaWiki:Wikinode-url

Do they have a purpose, or were they accidentally created? --DavidCary 13:09, 3 March 2009 (EST)

David, it looks like Sean and Smiddle were trying to do something, but I can't figure it out either. MarkDilley
also here is the Archive.org link for the site
Looks like these were made for putting a WikiNode link in the sidebar. --59.154.2.59 18:11, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
I agree with 59.154.2.59. We can find that they are used in MediaWiki:Sidebar --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 20:46, 29 March 2013 (PDT)