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* | ==Removal of 2 fields and more== | ||
** | * The [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|"Edit Mode"]] field is nice information to have, but I think difficult for the average [[user]] to figure out and enter. Therefore it may be a barrier to people who might otherwise enter or [[edit]] our [[:Category:All|wiki pages]]. I believe that the cost outweighs the benefit and therefore this field should be removed in the interest of simplicity. | ||
* By the same toke, I believe that the "Last Reviewed" date is unnecessary. It forces us to think about what a "Review" is, i.e. if you change anything on the record it has been reviewed? It is also a pain to update and redundant with the [[WhatIsWiki|wikis]] existing functionality of keeping [[edit history]]. So I recommend its removal. | |||
* If we decide to do this it seems that it would be best to simply edit the "Wiki List" template. Alternatively, we could make a new [[:Category:Infobox template|template]], but I'm afraid that will cause more confusion. | |||
* Also, we should probably add [[:Category:Wikis with a WikiNode|"WikiNode"]] to this template and not create a separate template for that | |||
* Also, I don't think the "[[WikiTourBus]]" is significant enough to put on the template. Using [[WikiIndex]], the tourbus isn't really that necessary? | |||
Thoughts? --[[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small> 22:02, 15 Feb 2006 (EST) | |||
: Any interest in pulling together a meeting for discussing the many site issues that folks have brought up? A happening perhaps? ![[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small> | |||
* The [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode|Edit Mode]] is an important look at [[wiki]], can we discribe it or label it differently? | |||
* I could go for losing the Last Reviewed date. | |||
I | * Adding [[WikiNode]] to the ~100 [[:Category:Vibrant|vibrant]] wiki to test the idea. But am open to the idea of starting it now. | ||
* I wasn't aware of anyone advocating for TourBusStop on the template (a TourBusStop for WikiIndex, yes!) | |||
* Can there be consideration of losing the Topic category? adding it into the description? | |||
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'''Conclusions so far''' | |||
# Remove date of last edit (done) | |||
# Add Wiki Node (done) | |||
# Create new template "[[Template:Wiki]]" (done) | |||
# Widdle down the number of edit modes from 16 to a goal of 4 (in process) '''conversation moved''' to [[Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#16 .28now 14.29 down to 4 process]] | |||
==Additional categories== | |||
[[File:AdditionalCategories.png|right|frame|[[Wikinsider]] unsightly 'Additional Categories']] | |||
Since we are talking about changing things right now, I am reasserting that we have a meeting of minds. We did that the other night with Ray's agenda, but I would like to call for an open agenda, mostly because I have things to discuss as well, specifically the '''Additional Categories''' space. I feel it is redundant, and I was trying to deal with that issue by placing a footer above the "natural" media wiki category strip at the bottom. Here is an example of what I am talking about, from [[Wikinsider]]. | |||
I | For me, it stikes a redundant cord. Anyway, I would like us to have a "happeing" or something like that. It is great that we moved on many issues over the last few days, would like to try to tackle or come up with a plan for others ideas too! :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | <small>[[User talk:MarkDilley|talk]]</small> | ||
:I'm happy to [[WikiIndex:Happening]]. :-) I still feel that there's no reason to have the [[Special:Categories|categories]] show up in the text. I'd rather use the [[:Category:Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia]] category feature as written instead of using the {{Template|tag}} or [[:Category:Category templates|category templates]] we created to display those categories in the text of the page. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 17:40, 17 Feb 2006 (EST) | |||
::Let's take this conversation to [[WikiIndex talk:How do categories work]], okay? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:01, 18 Feb 2006 (EST) | |||
[[Category:Orphaned talk page]] | |||
Latest revision as of 23:34, 28 May 2023
Removal of 2 fields and more[edit]
- The "Edit Mode" field is nice information to have, but I think difficult for the average user to figure out and enter. Therefore it may be a barrier to people who might otherwise enter or edit our wiki pages. I believe that the cost outweighs the benefit and therefore this field should be removed in the interest of simplicity.
- By the same toke, I believe that the "Last Reviewed" date is unnecessary. It forces us to think about what a "Review" is, i.e. if you change anything on the record it has been reviewed? It is also a pain to update and redundant with the wikis existing functionality of keeping edit history. So I recommend its removal.
- If we decide to do this it seems that it would be best to simply edit the "Wiki List" template. Alternatively, we could make a new template, but I'm afraid that will cause more confusion.
- Also, we should probably add "WikiNode" to this template and not create a separate template for that
- Also, I don't think the "WikiTourBus" is significant enough to put on the template. Using WikiIndex, the tourbus isn't really that necessary?
Thoughts? --Raymond King | talk 22:02, 15 Feb 2006 (EST)
- Any interest in pulling together a meeting for discussing the many site issues that folks have brought up? A happening perhaps? !MarkDilley | talk
- The Edit Mode is an important look at wiki, can we discribe it or label it differently?
- I could go for losing the Last Reviewed date.
- Adding WikiNode to the ~100 vibrant wiki to test the idea. But am open to the idea of starting it now.
- I wasn't aware of anyone advocating for TourBusStop on the template (a TourBusStop for WikiIndex, yes!)
- Can there be consideration of losing the Topic category? adding it into the description?
Conclusions so far
- Remove date of last edit (done)
- Add Wiki Node (done)
- Create new template "Template:Wiki" (done)
- Widdle down the number of edit modes from 16 to a goal of 4 (in process) conversation moved to Category talk:Wiki Edit Mode#16 .28now 14.29 down to 4 process
Additional categories[edit]
Wikinsider unsightly 'Additional Categories'
Since we are talking about changing things right now, I am reasserting that we have a meeting of minds. We did that the other night with Ray's agenda, but I would like to call for an open agenda, mostly because I have things to discuss as well, specifically the Additional Categories space. I feel it is redundant, and I was trying to deal with that issue by placing a footer above the "natural" media wiki category strip at the bottom. Here is an example of what I am talking about, from Wikinsider.
For me, it stikes a redundant cord. Anyway, I would like us to have a "happeing" or something like that. It is great that we moved on many issues over the last few days, would like to try to tackle or come up with a plan for others ideas too! :-) Best, MarkDilley | talk
- I'm happy to WikiIndex:Happening. :-) I still feel that there's no reason to have the categories show up in the text. I'd rather use the Wikimedia category feature as written instead of using the {{tag}} or category templates we created to display those categories in the text of the page. TedErnst | talk 17:40, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)
- Let's take this conversation to WikiIndex talk:How do categories work, okay? TedErnst | talk 15:01, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)