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== [[Ensis Wiki]] ==
==Pages for deletion==
Do you happen to recognize, right off the bat, the wiki engine used by [http://sdn.altervista.org/ensis Ensis Wiki]? If we knew that, we might be able to infer the RecentChanges URL too. Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 10:07, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi, please review [[:Category:Pages for deletion|Category:Pages for deletion]] and delete those pages. Several pages have accumulated during the absence of the administrators. Thanks. --[[User:Usa11|Usa11]] ([[User talk:Usa11|talk]]) 16:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
:Hi Nathan, and Happy New Year.  Its urls confirm its written in [[:Category:PHP|PHP]], bur it isn't the obvious [[:Category:PhpWiki|PhpWiki]], and I don't immediately recognise it!  I suggest having a look at some of the other PHP-based wiki engines to see what looks similar. Sorry I can't be any more help. :-/  Best  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:35, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::Happy New Year to you too. Maybe it isn't even a wiki; maybe they just call themselves that because it sounds cool. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 14:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Maybe . . . however, at the foot of every page it states "All copyrights held by respective authors/owners", and on their [http://sdn.altervista.org/ensis/main.php main page], it states "Editing this Wiki is left in the hands of a select few volunteers, however you can help out. If you are an author you can submit documents for inclusion using the form on the contact page."  Perhaps you can contact them and request an account?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::::I guess it's likely ''not'' a real wiki as ''every'' page has their ''own'' php file? As for [[MediaWiki]], every page is under "index.php" (or "pmwiki.php" for [[:Category:PmWiki|PmWiki]]) --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 15:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::Sometimes it's hard to figure out where to draw the line between a wiki and non-wiki website. See [[Differences between wikis and other kinds of websites]]. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:54, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::::::Unless someone signs up for an account there, I suggest we leave the entry on here, but mark it with the {{template|NotAWiki}}.  The only real way to tell if it's a genuine wiki is to search for page histories . . . . [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:33, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


== the plainlinks thing ==
:Good day, thanks for welcoming me. I created a new user page so that's okay, thanks anyway for the proposal. For the wikis that I have marked as to be deleted, they are all unreachable through archive sites such as archive.org, so the actual existence of those wikis is questioned. --[[User:Usa11|Usa11]] ([[User talk:Usa11|talk]]) 12:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)


Hi Sean, <br/>
==Account==
I saw that you deleted Template:PlainLinks. Should we add a CSS snippet to some help page instead (sometimes it's dangerous to have external links within a wiki look like internal ones)? So, what do you think: Is it better to omit this information here? Or should we provide a proper template that makes HTTP-links to this wiki look wiki-internal? I think, there will be only few applications, so [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=class%3D%22plainlinks%22&fulltext=Search direct "CSS hacking"] will do... <br/>
I requested an account. Could you please accept it? [[Special:Contributions/172.26.12.237|172.26.12.237]] 18:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
I wish you all the best for 2014 --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 12:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
:Hello [[Special:Contributions/172.26.12.237|172.26.12.237]]. Can you please advise me the [[username]] you used for requesting a new account?  Thanks.  --[[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
::That would be "{{U|MJL}}" :) [[Special:Contributions/172.26.12.237|172.26.12.237]] 22:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
:::Now approved.  Welcome to WikiIndex


==MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext==
==Please delete==
I suggest changing [[MediaWiki:Spamprotectiontext]] to tell users about their option to request that pages be whitelisted. A sample message is at [[mw:Extension:SpamBlacklist#Whitelist]]. Thanks, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Hey HHCould you please delete Category:Pedosexuality?
:Consider it doneThanks for the heads-up :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


== Thanks for the comment ==
Thanks! &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/MJL|☖]]</sup></span> 23:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
:{{Done}}  --[[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 09:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Abd&curid=42613&diff=177267&oldid=177257 That] really made my day. Unfortunately, there are some who [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AWikiIndex&diff=1297680&oldid=658264 think] that merely tolerating someone's presence and allowing facts to be documented means that the person has dominated the wiki. I tend to agree more with [http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=RationalWiki_talk:All_things_in_moderation&diff=prev&oldid=1073819 AD's sentiments], except that I would go even further than he did, and say that not only should people not be banned for posting essays (in namespaces, such as an Essay: namespace of a wiki allegedly devoted to rational argumentation, where such essays are considered on-topic), but that under those kinds of circumstances, the essays shouldn't be deleted. This is a wiki devoted to wikis, wiki people, and wiki ideas, so comprehensively accomplishing that mission requires that controversial wikis, wiki people, and wiki ideas be documented as well in mainspace articles. Avoiding bias requires that everyone at least be able to tell their side of the story without being blocked, as long as they avoid being disruptive or uncivil. Cheers, [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:17, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
==incels dot wiki vs incelwiki.com==
:You are most welcome.  I genuinely appreciate your work here on WikiIndex — you have some great constructive ideas, and the technical knowledge on how to push forward those ideas, making (hopefully) WikiIndex a better place!
incels dot wiki was legitimately stolen from the creators and main writers of the material itself, (this is a moderated wiki with only like 3-4 particularly active users ever) and since it was stolen, at least one writer (Wizard32) has put on very sketchy URLs on at least one page of incels dot wiki, which they haven't removed for months.   They host it on their server, which also hosts a site of theirs which we've found is under heavy investigation by law enforcement. They own sanctionedsuicide and we shouldn't be advertising anything on their servers imho.
:You are also spot-on regarding civility — we absolutely should ALL be free to discuss others motives, ethics and points of view without fear of being moderated; the only provisos are that we all remain civil, and don't disrupt this (or any other) wiki to force ones own point.
:I find you incredibly tolerant, in the light of some of the abuse which gets hurled in your direction — you always remain level-headed and very mature, and that is a truly great personal attribute to have, and I doff my cap to you for that.  Life would be very dull if we didn't push boundaries!  Best :))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


== Scott Schaefer ==
*https://www.ansa.it/english/news/general_news/2021/06/07/site-blocked-for-helping-youngsters-to-kill-themselves_da6fbf6d-8b7f-414d-ab43-d32026479077.html. "Site blocked for helping youngsters to kill themselves"
*"Rome prosecutors on Monday blocked an Internet site that hosted a community created to help young people to kill themselves following a probe into the recent suicides of two Italian teenagers. The community on the Sanctioned Suicide site had 17,000 members from all over the world."
*https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/incels-suicide-forum-woman-killed-herself
*"Incels Are Running An Online Suicide Forum That Was Blamed For A Young Woman’s Death"  "Marquis [aka 'Master/Randy'] told BuzzFeed News on Wednesday that he and his cofounder are both incels and founded sites such as Incels.co, Incels Wiki, Looksmax.me, the Manosphere, and Blackpill.online."


Perhaps [[Scott Schaefer]] meant well. He had some possibly productive businesses by which he sought to support himself and [http://nathania.org/wiki/File:Rhonda-Schaefer1.jpg the woman] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/56766805@N05/7256407420/in/photostream/ he calls] "the swetest, hotest, sexiest, most beautiful wife in Dallas...in the world". Had he been unemployed, he wouldn't have mentioned a commercial business (and therefore wouldn't have seemed as spammy). Had he chosen to be an employee rather than an entrepreneur, he'd be less likely to be accused of spamming, because he would have gained little or nothing by promoting his company. But unemployed people, and non-entrepreneurs, and people who hold back information about their businesses, are not necessarily superior to others.
'''This is not a group I would trust as a source on even their own sites''' Following reports of minors on their sanctionedsuicide.com (now sanctioned-suicide.org) dying, Epik dropped all their sites, followed by what seems to be Tucows or Njalla.  Years ago it was Afilias that dropped all their sites.


True, his [[LexingtonWiki]] didn't live up to the hyperbole (or hasn't lived up to it yet), but few ambitious projects do; certainly they often take a lot more work than expected, and there are plenty of distractions. Maybe his wife distracted him with all those skimpy outfits she wears in the hot Dallas climate; who knows. I used to think that, because of how emotionally, financially, and otherwise distracting it can be to be in a relationship, I should stay single until I finished developing [[Inclupedia]], but loneliness can be as distracting as having a woman around, so I think I've broken even, perhaps.
*https://fixthe26.com/sanctioned-suicide-dot-com-is-teaching-children-how-to-end-their-own-lives/
*"Sanctioned Suicide dot Com Is Teaching CHILDREN How To End Their Own Lives"
*"The SanctionedSuicide.com web site is currently providing forum-based coaching, advice, and detailed instructions about how to commit suicide … TO CHILDREN.  The site operators and supporters claim that access to the site is denied to anyone under the age of 18. However, a recent survey of the membership clearly shows that approximately 5-8 percent of the membership is under the age of 18. Even a cursory examination of the site clearly demonstrates that the site operators and members are well aware that there are minors using the site. They continue to advise and coach these minors on how to end their own lives."
*https://fixthe26.com/suicide-prevention-town-hall-parents-say-website-coached-kids-to-take-their-own-lives/
*https://news4sanantonio.com/news/trouble-shooters/that-was-the-gun-parents-say-website-coached-kids-to-take-their-own-lives?fbclid=IwAR0Hx6Xa3SI5PI1ZlIV621ZXpFGGzCipsL6C6hGsVTjLqy8QO93rVTH9JSI "Suicide Prevention Town Hall: Parents say website coached kids to take their own lives" "SAN ANTONIO – Parents whose children were already struggling with depression believe one website pushed them over the edge and actually coached them to take their own lives. The Trouble Shooters are taking you inside the battle to get the website shut down. We don’t take sharing this story lightly, but parents do need to know what their children have access to online."
*Suicide Prevention Town Hall: Parents say website coached kids to take their own lives https://news4sanantonio.com/news/trouble-shooters/that-was-the-gun-parents-say-website-coached-kids-to-take-their-own-lives?fbclid=IwAR0Hx6Xa3SI5PI1ZlIV621ZXpFGGzCipsL6C6hGsVTjLqy8QO93rVTH9JSI


Often planned projects are abandoned when one supersedes them with an even better or more important idea. Maybe that's what happened here. Or the person simply gives in to procrastination, because there's no one around to give him the push (and/or assistance) he needs to move forward.
"In the United States, anyone under the age of 18 is legally a minor. There is no ambiguity here. These are children, the site operators, and members know it, yet continue to discuss the act of suicide in great detail as if they are above or beyond both legal or moral reach." --owner of fixthe26th


Anyway, he probably is somewhat of a spammer but maybe he wasn't all that harmful; he was significantly less persistent and annoying than the spambots we deal with regularly, because he put work into developing the pages manually. Plus he blessed our wiki with pics of his (somewhat) hot wife; beauty makes the world a better place. I think he has done enough, simply by creating a non-Wikia wiki that shows evidence of at one time being an incubator of ambitious wiki ideas, to be regarded as a [[wiki person]]. At any rate, [[User talk:ScottSchaefer]] should probably be restored on the general principle that talk pages should remain for the sake of [[transparency]].
I don't think we should be advertising any sites on their server, especially considering what seem to be sketchy URLs on .wiki rn that was added by a writer after they stole it. The owners of those sites call themselves 'master' and 'sergeantincel', they own incels.is (formerly incels.co/incels.me)/sanctionedsuicide etc, and have been dropped by multiple registrars.


Of course, I am somewhat biased because I have some things in common with this user, such as a penchant for ambitious wiki projects (which haven't yet come to full fruition) and delighting in showing off my wife's body to the world and publicly complimenting her beauty. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 21:34, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
Which is why I moved the article I wrote to .com.  We have nothing to do with incels.is and their sites/wikis.  They just let us use a mediawiki installation for a year until they hijacked it.  They lorded it over us the entire time and always tried to push sociopathy on the wiki.  We created their "general disclaimer" ourselves, and also individually released under CC on our talk pages so they couldn't have them claim we weren't who we were after the new domain.  Since we released under CC individually on talk pages, we aren't pursuing legal options against .wiki but we do have discord records of them claiming that we owned it. (Discord allows exports of private conservations, and retains deleted messages)  But .wiki is mostly inactive compared to .com, and is dramatically smaller as well.  It's our wiki stuck in 2018 plus garbage they added after they banned everyone.  .com also has 5 languages. 14:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


== Recent deletions ==
'''Sources:'''
*https://web.archive.org/web/20200518180809/https:/twitter.com/IncelsCo/status/1262271865093083140
*https://archive.fo/bK1Tv
*http://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11311 ("William at the Incel Wiki, who is the admin of it, is Willwill0415 (T-C-L) on Wikipedia and Neiltyson1fan on RationalWiki.") --> William moved to .com over a year ago  [[User:William Lupinacci|William Lupinacci]] ([[User talk:William Lupinacci|talk]]) 14:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


Please check [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]] & [[Special:Gadgets]] --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 12:51, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
If you still want to keep incels.wiki on, can we have our own pageWe also run a huge wiki farm and can add our others, most of which have nothing to do with incels  [[User:William Lupinacci|William Lupinacci]] ([[User talk:William Lupinacci|talk]]) 15:06, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
:I see . . . did you want to undo my deletions which affect those?  I presumed it was ok to delete those MW interface pages for those gadgets we don't have installed!
:BTW, do you know if it is possible for the AJAX Recent Changes auto refresh to be only enabled to logged in usersBest regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:29, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
::You can do the undeletions :) The limitation of AJAX Recent Changes can be done by [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?diff=177874], which limit the gadget to only the ones with "purge" user right (only the "user" group has the right [[Special:ListGroupRights|currently]])
::BTW, I've whitelisted the url (see [[User talk:Leucosticte]]), but trying to debug in hundreds of regexes is not easy. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 09:29, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


==New Users==
Hi, I tried to become a new user of this wiki.  I applied some days ago, no response.  There is a TOS to check that one has read it, but this page does not exist!  How long does it take to get ones account activated?


I tried for "Manorainjan" as name.  You can answer me via http://manorainjan.myblog.de/manorainjan/gb or on my German Wikipedia page https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Manorainjan  --[[Special:Contributions/88.70.38.9|88.70.38.9]] 19:00, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks :) [[User:William Lupinacci|William Lupinacci]] ([[User talk:William Lupinacci|talk]]) 15:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


Still I can not log in http://wikiindex.org/User:Manorainjan password does not work and I do not get the Mail that is for resetting the password.--[[Special:Contributions/92.76.120.189|92.76.120.189]] 23:29, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
==Semantics on pages==
Thanks for all your great work: I'm glad to see you taking ownership around here again. Of course, I'm here to complain but on pages like [[Federated wiki (concept)]], you've used semantic elements that don't match the content, like a semi-colon to start a definition list but all you really want is bold. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 03:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
:I'm confused!  [[Federated wiki (concept)]] (the article) does not have any semantic data, because it does not use use the {{Template|Wiki}} infobox template.  Semantic MediaWiki will only work with semantic data from Semantic Forms, and they can only work from correctly coded templates such as infoboxes.  Or am I missing something else? [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:47, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
::Yeah, pardon me: I think my earlier post was too vague. Starting a line with a semi-colon will create a [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/dl description or definition list]. These liss should be followed by one or more items that start with a colon. E.g. below:


:Hi there.  I'm so sorry you are having difficulty in creating an account, please accept my apologies.  I actually thought one of the other sysops fixed your account here whilst I was away — they were obviously unable to do so.  I will try to re-create your account, and will create the password the same as your username with the current year at the end (without spaces), and see if that works.  If it does work, and you get to log-in, can you then please change your password to something more appropriate.  I've temporarilly renamed your original account to [[User:Manorainjan-OLD]].
;Hoof Hearted
:A user at WikiIndex
:An all-around kewl d00d
:My friend


:Let's hope we can get this all sorted for you - best regards. :)))) [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::Etc. If you want to make something bold, use three apostrophes: this will employ the [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/b b or bring to attention element]. If you start a definition list but don't follow it with definitions, that's poor HTML semantics and is confusing to things like search engines indexing pages or screen readers attempting to vocalize the content of a page, etc. Does that make sense? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 23:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
:::Ah, okay, I understand your point now.  Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for my delay in replying – I was sleeping on my thoughts!  Howeverrrrr, I am not sure I 100% agree – though I am open to further reasoning. My understanding, and please forgive me if I'm wrong, I thought that [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] is based on [[wikitext]], rather than [[:Category:HTML|HTML]]?  I accept that MediaWiki still relies on a small number of HTML elements (along with [[:Category:Cascading Style Sheets|CSS]], {{Wp|Unicode}}, and [[:Category:JavaScript|JavaScript]]), particularly where there is no direct corresponding function within wikitext; a few examples being: <tt><nowiki><bdi></nowiki></tt>, <tt><nowiki><pre></nowiki></tt>, <tt><nowiki><sub></nowiki></tt>, and <tt><nowiki><sup></nowiki></tt>.  But there are many more elements that are considered highly verboten within wikitext (especially such as MediaWiki), examples <tt><nowiki><dl>, <dt>, and <dd></nowiki></tt> (for descriptions, which you eloquently show above with use of the colon and semi-colon), <tt><nowiki><ol></nowiki></tt> (for numbered lists, wikitext uses the hash), <tt><nowiki><h1> to <h6></nowiki></tt> (for levels of section headings, wikitext uses the equals sign - and I would imagine any editor on Wikipedia who used HTML to create section heading to be robustly chastised!), <tt><nowiki><p></nowiki></tt> (for creating paragraphs, when a simple carriage return suffices for wikitext).


::Thank You. As You can see, it worked. And I understood that it is of no use to try to get my email confirmed. So I changed my password now and took full possession of the new account.;-)--[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 12:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:::As for robots, indexers, and accessibility assisted technologies, I was under the impression that they all worked on the <u>rendered</u> page, rather than its constructed elements?  Again, please correct me if I am wrong.


== MultimeterWiki? ==
:::Finally, and I guess this goes back to the original reason for your comment to me, search engine optimisation and performance.  Again, my own thinking here; because articles here on WikiIndex are generally (a) very small, when compared to Wikipedia pages, and (b) follow a nigh-on identical format and structure (for articles on wiki, wiki engines, wiki farms, and wiki people) – do we actually need section headings (apart from long articles, or when section headings are highly desirable to separate specific areas within the prose)?  And a follow-on from that, if yes, is there any quantifiable value in a search engine indexing say the section(s) on references and / or external links?  Surely, surely, surely, for those who search and then find WikiIndex in search providers, we want search results to KEEP folks here in WikiIndex, rather than display searches for external links / sources which will take folks AWAY from WikiIndex?
I was coming across WikiIndex in search for a wiki on multimeter. Seems no such wiki is listed. - Manorainjan


This wiki seems to be not on the index http://thinkwiki.de/Hauptseite.
:::I greatly appreciate your learned advice and expertise.  WikiIndex is a lonely ship to steer alone!  Best regards always, [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the thoughtful response. To be clear, my main motivation is proper semantics for accessibility's sake and then things like machine indexing and search engine optimization, etc. Whatever we insert as MediaWiki's code (such as <nowiki>'''bold'''</nowiki> text) gets output as HTML because that's what everything on the Web is, so misusing tags—either by directly inputting the HTML or by using some wikitext that is then converted into HTML—is bad. I don't know that we need headings on pages that are short but I'll defer to you if you prefer one style over another. I do think that making a good outline structure is good for things like generating outlines with OPML or having anchors in a page that are linkable but it's not something that I think is urgent. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 15:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)


This page seems to be outdated: [[Ebookpedia]], the link to the homepage gets forwarded to another non-wiki blog-like page of similar topic.
==Editing others' comments==
I'm not sure that I understand [https://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Zhuyifei1999&diff=0&oldid=205760 this spate] of edits. Why are you adding links into others' posts on a user talk page? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 03:27, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
:I think that it is very helpful to add [[wikilink]]s, as they provide valuable [[backlink]]s, and breadcrumbs to any previous discussions on said subjects.  I personally always use backlinks to find established [[consensus]], or other trains of thought when trying to improve all articles here on WikiIndex, including policy.


:Regarding your issues on [[ThinkWiki]] and [[Ebookpedia]], please feel free to add or amend as you see fit - we still allow [[IP editor]]s to create new and/or amend existing entries, but I appreciate it can be a pain in the rear to go through CaptchaFor your question regarding a wiki on multimeters, can I suggest you look at the wikis listed in [[:Category:Electronic]] and/or any of its related categories. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:I accept that it is forbidden to edit other users talk pages on Wikipedia - but we are NOT Wikipedia, and we have no need to be bound by their policiesBest regards. [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:43, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


:: OK, in the [[:Category:Electronic]] I did not find anything of mentionable size or activity and marked several Wikis as Dormant. Later on I will earn how to add a Wiki. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 13:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
==Blocked?==
My IP address is blocked, yet I've never even been here before. I'm unable to email an admin, so how am I supposed to make an account and list my wiki? Korra Baskerville [[Special:Contributions/172.26.22.41|172.26.22.41]] 22:10, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


==[[Ray King]]==
:Hello, and thanks for reaching outYour current IP address is not blocked, and has been used for editing here on WikiIndexHowever, a similar IP address was blocked for adding spam.  Do you have a static IP address, or maybe you are using a public Wi-Fi access?  If you can provide more detail, I will help you in any way that I can.  Best regards.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Whilst I may be a '[[crat]] on this wiki, I don't have access to any of the 'backend' server-side software, and nor do any of our regular [[sysop]]s and cratsWikiIndex is owned by Ray King, and he pays someone else to look after that aspectUnfortunately, we have had a number of issues with our system config which have been 'broken' for a long time, and sadly don't seem to get fixed – one of those being our e-mail system – I personally have never been able to get my own WikiIndex e-mail working since I started here! :( [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


:I noticed, that the talk-page of Ray King was visited by him last around 2006. that someone would take over and answer there, I could not see. Is that man still alive? His site "[[RecentChanges.info]]" is dead and empty since 2006 --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 11:32, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
::I have no idea how that post was able to get through. I tried to edit it and was blocked. Right now, I'm using a VPN to edit the [[Mystery Dungeon Franchise Wiki]] page and have managed to put in an account request under the email [email protected]. I'm using my own home Wi-Fi based out of Noth-Colorado in the United States. - Korra II Allison Baskerville [[Special:Contributions/172.26.22.41|172.26.22.41]] 22:42, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


::Haaa - you have found one of the many 'oddities' of this wiki!!!!  Ray King is his [[WikiIndex:RealNames|real name]], but he also edits under the [[username]] of '[[User:Rathbone]]' (I have no idea why) – and he is still very much alive!
:::Ok, forgive my lax behaviour for not checking RecentChanges more regularly.  I just approved your account now - [[User:Korra II A Baskerville]].
::The person who runs this wiki on a day-2-day basis is [[MarkDilley]], and Mark has closer 'off-wiki' contact with RayMark does not have access to the server, but I think because he isn't a programmer, he'd rather leave the more complex backend stuff to more competent persons.
::Anyway, glad we finally got you onboard, and look forward to your welcome contributions here on WikiIndex - Welcome again :))))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)


== Backend Things and Messes ==
:::I am slightly confused why three different accounts have been requested from the same IP address, but with three different e-mail addresses, and different forwarding IP addresses.  I will look into more detail when I get some time.  Best.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)


Thank you Sean... I've been away for a while, and I wasn't aware of what was happening... I hope you are doing okay more... Hugs and Love [[User:TeraS|TeraS]] ([[User talk:TeraS|talk]]) 16:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
==CWCki==
I wonder if you could review whether the [[CWCki]] can remain on this wiki or whether a substantial rewrite is needed? The wiki is linked with a website that has been accused of stalking and vulnerable users, and I have to tell you that the subject of the wiki is one of the victims.


==A strange bug when logged out==
Further info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kiwi_Farms
I didn't know the best place to post this, but when I'm logged out extra coding appears on some pages of the site messing up the page's formatting. This extra coding disappears when I sign in though (it does reappear when I sign out). The "Alvin and the Chipmunks Wiki" page is one of the pages that does this. A couple {{#set}} functions are viable before and in the area of the "Wiki Size" box. --[[User:DEmersonJMFM|DEmersonJMFM]] ([[User talk:DEmersonJMFM|talk]]) 21:57, 2 August 2014 (UTC)


: Hi, you need to clear your page cache when logged out (<tt>Ctrl + F5</tt> on a Windows OS). We had a server overload issue about a week ago, so Semantic MediaWiki was temporarilly disabled as it was thought that was the cause. Hope this helps :))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 05:18, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/172.26.22.41|172.26.22.41]] 00:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
:Hello.  As a general rule, here on WikiIndex, we do not delete articles on wiki which ''some'' people might find offensive or upsetting.  I have spent considerable time reading CWCki, along with its Wikipedia article and associated WP talk page.


:: I logged out and cleared my cache and the bug still appears... hmmm. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:This is my own personal comments.  First and foremost, I do not like CWCki - I do not like the way they obsessively detail every minute detail of the life of the person who is the subject of said wiki. However, I must stress in the strongest possible way - my own personal dislike is absolutely not grounds to delete its entry here on WikiIndex. Saying that, I agree that our own article needs a considerable re-write. Unfortunately, I am just not familiar enough with the content of the wiki overall, so it would not be appropriate for me to submit my own thoughts.


:::I dunno then . . . . Try rebooting, it worked for me :/ [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:41, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:As to the Wikipedia article, I find the tone of its coverage very alarming. Strong viewpoints are endemic in that WP article, and there is much bias, and very little neutralityDiscussions on its talk page continuously highlight those issues, but without any real action on balancing and toning down the WP article!


::::Clearing the cache nor restarting solves the problem for me. --[[User:DEmersonJMFM|DEmersonJMFM]] ([[User talk:DEmersonJMFM|talk]]) 21:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:In light of my comments, please feel free to edit our entry here on WikiIndex.  Of course, please ensure that your own additons are both factual and neutral.  Kind regards.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:06, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


If this is still problematic, maybe some screenshots might help, as I havn't seen any oddities when I log-out.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:26, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
==Thumbnails for new images are broken for some reason, Mediawiki can't fnd /usr/bin/convert==
So new images aren't working to add to the wiki pages


==[[Template:User info]]==
It says "Error creating thumbnail: /bin/bash: /usr/bin/convert: No such file or directory Error code: 127"  You probaby need to install imagemagick or configure the imagemagick location in LocalSettings.php
I would expect, that using this template would throw anyone in a specific category where You would find all who used it.--[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:57, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


Also there appears a comma without a visible reason. --[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Other people's prior image upload attempts also resulted in failure as shown here https://wikiindex.org/special:filelist
:I've altered it to autoinclude [[:Category:Wiki People]] for those who use it, and to also display the template in the same Wiki People category.  Re the comma - that occured because you included your company without your job title.  I've fixed that too, I hope!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:55, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


:: You did fix it :-) i testet it on [[:User:Sweetie Belle]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks :) [[User:William Lupinacci|William Lupinacci]] ([[User talk:William Lupinacci|talk]]) 15:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
:::Are you and [[:User:Sweetie Belle]] an 'item'?? <wink, wink> :ppp  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 16:20, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:Hello William, and thanks for your message.  Sadly, WikiIndex has a few long-standing bugs which never seem to get fixed.  I am just a 'crat and regular editor here, and I don't have server access.  The owner of WikiIndex is [[Raymond King]], and he also uses {{U|Rathbone}} to make edits; but sadly, he is not very active.  Maybe you can email Ray King and remind him of ongoing problems? It might add more timber to the fire if another person contact him.  Keep me in the loop please William.  Best regards, --[[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 00:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


::: I have still no idea what item means here. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:46, 7 August 2014 (UTC)  ([http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=item])
==Needing a couple of renames and logo uploads==
Hi, an IP editor here (who doesn't have file/move rights). Could you please assess [[:Category:Wiki site requiring logo upload‎|logo upload]] and [[:Category:Articles to be renamed|article rename]] categories? Particularly for these, which I edited recently, if not all (thanks!): [[Isvwiki]], [[Croatian Wiktionary|Wječnika]]. -[[Special:Contributions/172.26.6.144|172.26.6.144]] 02:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


:::: There is no blank between the output from <job title> and <organization>[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:46, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
==Boobpedia==
:::::Have I fixed it again? And an 'item' - is a 'tongue-in-cheek' term for 'boyfriend & girlfriend'. :pppppp [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Semiprotection of [[Boobpedia]] may be useful. This topic invites SPAM. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 12:02, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
:Yeah, I see. Now protected from [[IP editor]]s.  Thanks for letting me know.  Best.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 16:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)


::::: Yes, You fixed it. And I'm not even sure if she is of legal age ;-) BTW: Why are You not using Your own template? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 13:24, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
==[[:Category:Turkey|Turkey]] on the main page==
::::::Move to [[:Category:France|France]] – legal at 15 !!!! :OOOO
I don't think it's nice to shove it as the first thing people read when they visit the wiki, especially in that demeaning voice. It's good to know about Turkey's censorship (among many other problems), but at least water it down and don't make it political, because there are much worse things than having a wiki blocked. Imagine it saying "Thank goodness not all countries are like United States!!!! Cherish your school/market not getting sh0t down every other day!" -[[Special:Contributions/172.26.1.10|172.26.1.10]] 15:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
::::::I created my user page long before any templates existed, I'm happy with the way it looks. :) [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:40, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
::As utterly tragic and heartbreaking the many school shootings in the US are - unless there is a wiki site which deals with the said issue, it has no place here on WikiIndex. Kind regards [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)


== [[:Category:Wiki Status]] / [[Template:WikiStatus]] ==
:I have to agree to that. This wiki should not get politicized. It shall not become the pressure relief valve for people who got no other place to express their political frustrations. Compared to this outdated remark about Türkiye (which is the proper name of that nation) the censorship for everything Russian in EU is massive and hypocritical as can be. We should not get involved into this mess here at all. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:01, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
moved to -> http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Category:Wiki_Status_.2F_Template:WikiStatus)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:37, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


==smaller font for cruft==
::{{U|Manorainjan}}, firstly, you have been warned multiple times by other editors, admins and crats on this site about about changing section headings.  '''This is your last warning'''.  Stop - or you will be permanently blocked!  Since its inception, WikiIndex has always used the anglophile names for all countries.  This has been the consensus since 2006; no other WikiIndex editor or reader has had issue with this.  If you do not agree with the consensus and rules here on WikiIndex, go find another wiki which you do like!
I had no problem reading the text one size smaller on the phone, must have eaten more carrots! :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::Regarding the comment of Turkey on the main page, WikiIndex is a wiki site about all wikis.  That includes ALL aspects of wikis - including access and censorship.  If a country - not once - but TWICE blocks total access within its entire country - breaking a fundamental European Union law on Human Rights - it is perfectly acceptable to highlight such issues!
:Do you not have Accessability rights in the US?  In the UK we have to have a minimum font size to comply with visually impaired folksAnd I eat loads of carrots :P [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
::Regarding your comment on the Russia vs EU issue - if it is affecting any aspect of wiki - find the necessary information, and provide independent citations to verify said issue.  Otherwise, that has no place here on WikiIndexKind regards [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
::I hope You folks know, that this carrot thing is an urban legend?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:32, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


==[[Form:Wiki]]==
==The Wiki Rule==
The existing cat [[:Category:UnknownEditMode]] is not available in the form. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:48, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
[[TV Tropes]] used to have an article with this name. We might use it as a resource for further wikis to add. [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWikiRule] [https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.TheWikiRule] <small><span class=autosigned>— preceding [[Signature|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Max Sinister|contribs]]) – 01:22, 15 October 2022‎ (UTC).</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
:That is because the '[[Property:Wiki edit mode|edit mode]]' is a [[Special:Properties|Semantic Property]], and only valid Semantic Properties can be added when creating articles using a [[Special:Forms|Semantic Form]] that is [[Form:Wiki]].  I suggest when edit mode (or indeed any of the other Semantic Properties) are of 'unknown' - the best way to create a new article is by using an existing [[red link]] and copy+paste the [[Template:Wiki boilerplate]] - using the help text contained within the boilerplate.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


There is also no field for the time of creation of the Wiki. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:00, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:Why is it called a "rule"? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:00, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
:Ahhh . . . we had a conflict a while back on that issue, which ought to be sorted.  Again, use the boilerplate to get the basic info.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


==Delete an entry?==
::I think it is just their naming conventions and their inclusion policy maybeI confess I am not a follower of tropes of any kindBut the older version of that page is certainly a valid resource to add any missing wiki sites here on WikiIndex, so please go ahead and [[WikiIndex:Add a Wiki|add]] them.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 16:13, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
Can I delete an entry in case of absolute uselessness? [[AnUnnamedMoinMoinWiki_(easypos.co.kr)]][[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 18:45, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
: No!  We have a long-standing policy here on WikiIndex of not deleting dead wikisAnd whilst this particular wiki may seem 'useless', the article title was chosen because they knew it ''was'' a wiki which was using the [[:Category:MoinMoin|MoinMoin]] software, but no-one new how to translate korean (and it is now too late to translate, because [[Archive.org]] reports the site was overwhealmed by robots)!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 19:59, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:: OK, but <u>why including a picture that says: "This wiki is inactive"</u> while we are emtying this cat? Would, if at all the pic not have to say "dead" or "no logo"? I would prefer "nologo" if at all. "inactive" prompt people to change the status in something we do not want. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:23, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
::: Because I am utterly useless at creating logos!  We really do need a new generic logo for dead wikis . . . how are your logo creation skills?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:08, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
::: The categories at the foot of the page will show weather the article has been updated, and I've just removed Inactive from the Semantic Property, so any article which uses [[Template:Wiki]] with Inactive as a status will now show up as a caution.  This wont work if the article uses [[Template:Inactive]] (it was never created to support Semantic Properties).  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:08, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


Changing a template to inactive removes all the categories from that wiki - so they don't show up in active category lists. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
==Image error==
Howdy! Thank you for the account approval. I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I uploaded a logo for [[:Category:Whiki|Whiki]], but it seems to have thrown an error on thumbnailing (that can be seen at [[:File:Whiki_Logo.png|here]]). When I tried to add it to the category article and sizing it down to 180px, it also seems to have thrown an error on the category page — any idea what is wrong with it? [[User:Original Authority|Original Authority]] ([[User talk:Original Authority|talk]]) 03:50, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks for reaching out.  Sadly, we have some bugs in our software which cause problems with image display.  If you look at [[Special:NewFiles]], you will see that many file uploads fail to display thumbnail, and many will also fail to display at any manually selected pixel size other than their original upload size.  Regrettably, I don't have server access, so I am not able to resolve this issue (and I have no expertise in in that area).  My only suggestion is to manually resize logos to a maximum 300px and then upload again.  Apologies for not being able to offer a better solution. [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)


==[[:Category:Private]]==
::Ah, thank you! I've successfully uploaded a new version of the image — are you able to delete [[:File:Whiki_Logo.png]] if possible, please? [[User:Original Authority|Original Authority]] ([[User talk:Original Authority|talk]]) 07:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
I think here is a change needed. A wiki could be dormant and private at the same time like
:::Now deleted.  Thanks for your understanding.  And welcome again.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:26, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
[[Bible Wiki (biblewiki.net)]]
Private belongs to another aspect similar to editmode.
One has to create the aspect "accessibility" or anything else. {public|private|onInvitation|adult|legitimation|etc.} which defines the scope of onlookers not of editors. Naturally the scope of editmode is narrower than "accessibility" the mode nnames would have quite a cut set. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:I've raised the issue here: [[WikiIndex talk:Community portal#Category:Private]].  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


==Thank you==
==[[WikiIndex:Merge policy|Merge policy?]]==
Thank you for accepting me.  And I ask you have patience as I learn the ropes around here. Though I will do my utmost to make myself an asset as soon as humanly possible, smiles.:0)))  Sincerely,  Sonia de Lorraine  [[User:Sonia de Lorraine|Sonia de Lorraine]] ([[User talk:Sonia de Lorraine|talk]]) 11:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I checked the [[Althistory]] page, and it says that the page should be merged with another one. OK so far, a long time ago I did that at WP, and kinda remember it also involves merging the histories so nothing is lost. But what is WI's merging policy actually? It's still a red link...--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 23:55, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
:You are most welcome Sonia - looking forward to seeing more edits from you:)))  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:You are indeed correct that our merge policy is still a red link :-p  Indeed, many basic policies were red links until the last few yearsI will endeavour to make a start on that specific policy very soon.


==[[:Template:Inactive]]==
:The actual mechanism for [[Special:MergeHistory|Merging]] can only be carried out by [[sysop]]s, due to the licensing need to retain [[edit history]] (and [[attribution]]) of both articles.  Whilst the merge function is automated, it does need oversight - because not every edit can be merged - so discretion needs to be observed before actioning it.
moved to (http://wikiindex.org/WikiIndex_talk:Community_portal#Template:Inactive) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:44, 6 August 2014 (UTC)


: not only not for Wikifarms, rather depreciated, or not???[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
:Regarding the Althistory, and indeed all merge requests - sometimes, an editor may mark an article for merging (in good faith) - when in fact, it should remain in its own right.  Aside any genuine but accidental duplicate entries - the most common reason for mistakenly tagging for a merge is when a wiki site has changed host by way of [[fork]]ing (and instead of creating a new article for the new host - an editor may simply update the original wiki site to the URLs of the new host!).  The original wiki site, at its original host should be preserved as its own article here (annotating its status if necessary as abandoned or dead), and using a hat-note template to point to any new hostI notice that it was [[User talk:Ismael755|Ismael755]] who added the merge tag to [[Althistory]] (I think I was on an extended wiki break at that time - personal issues), and he also added a new article [[Alternate Future Wiki]].  Glancing very briefly, it appears that both sites co-existed, though I guess they now are merged into one site on Wikia.  There is also the same issue with [[Future]] and [[The Future Wiki]]!
::Huh?  Wikifarms have their own template [[Template:Wiki Farm]].  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:41, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


== Just stopping by ==
:In summary, if two articles have been created about an identical site on an identical host - the articles should be merged.  But if they are or were two separate wiki sites (even if say on Wikia), but have themselves since merged (usually by Wikia), the article here referring to the 'original' (even if dead) should be retained - and ideally archived links found to support it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqj2hkbDnyM [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 20:47, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
:Hope that makes sense! :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 00:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


:Ha ha!  Yes, I've got that YT link on my [[Uncyclopedia]] [[Uncyclopedia:User:Hoof Hearted|user page]]!  Enjoy. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:16, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
:: OK, I'll have to think about this a bit. But thanks for stating the merge policy.--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 04:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


== Infoboxes for Wiki People ==
==Blocked me==
Hello Sean,


Hi Hoof,
Not sure what I was doing to look like a spammer, but thought I would ask:  https://wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/172.26.30.192  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:Hello  Mark.  Apologies if I somehow managed to block you.  There is a bug somewhere in our software, and that IP address requested an account, which I approved.  And they then created a blatant spam page - [[Ndifreke Ukpong]] - which clearly had nothing to do with any wiki!


Are there any infoboxes for "Wiki People", and if not, would you mind if I created one? [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 16:31, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
:Checking the [[Special:Block/172.26.30.192|block log for that IP]], they are only restricted from editing as an anon IP editor.  They are still able to create new accounts, or login from existing accountsSo genuine registered users should not be blocked!
: We have the little used [[template:User info]], but if you feel like creating something different, please [[BeBold]] and create it. :)) [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 16:35, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


:: ''Merci''. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 16:38, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
:Another guy on MediaWiki.org also commented that our software configuration has bugs which are preventing password recovery emails, and Karsten also concerned about our buggy config.  Regards  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:52, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


::: {{support}} and happy you said people instead of users :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
::Gotcha.  Thanks for your responsiveness and clarity Sean, as always!  What are the steps we can take to update/upgrade our software configuration? Best, [[MarkDilley]]


== Avatars ==
:::I am no expert on MediaWiki hosting, so I can not advise!
Maybe we should have a sub cat avatars for user images which do not display the user?[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
:GFI  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
::GFI == ganz falsche Idee? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 20:51, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
:::Whoops - GFI = gehen für sie (en: go for it) :pp  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:56, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


::: Ich würde sagen: "Nur zu!" oder, im Sinne von [[BeBold]] "Trau Dich!" [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
:::I am not sure if you have spoken with Ray recently - because [[Karsten Hoffmeyer]] ({{U|Kghbln}}) emailed me recently, and offered to host WikiIndex on his own [[:Category:ProWiki (farm)|ProWiki]] host, and upgrade the necessary software (though he never indicated any price!).  Karsten would actually be a great fit for WikiIndex, because he is also an expert with Semantic MediaWiki.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:16, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


:::: I have no Idea how to do that. I would like to have subcategories of [[:Category:Wiki People Images]] {photograph|avatar|drawing}[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:45, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
== Small trouble with a vandal ==
Just type <tt><nowiki>[[Category:Avatars]]</nowiki></tt>, or whatever you'd like to call the new category, in the edit box if the avatar file, then save it.  You'll then have a red link at the bottom of the page.  Click on that red link cat, and type the full name of it's mother category - in double square brackets, and save.  Voila!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:56, 7 August 2014 (UTC)


== THE international prefix  ==
Hi! I'm a wiki editor for the [[Independent Fallout Wiki]] and I had to deal with a vandal on our page. Essentially, an anon edit posted links to something completely irrelevant to the subject matter, as well as posting misinformation that really had no relation to the article. They also dead-named on our admins.


The 1 and only? ;-)  
I was curious if there's any counter-measured to prevent this? Thanks! [[User:C0NN1E|C0NN1E]] ([[User talk:C0NN1E|talk]]) 13:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


From which country are you? ;-))[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:28, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
:Hello C0NN1E, welcome to WikiIndex.  I'm sorry for not noticing the [[vandal]]ismI now blocked the IP for one week, but if you notice anyone who is spamming or vandalising articles, please tag their user page or user talk page with either <tt>{{Template|vandal}}</tt> or <tt>{{Template|spammer}}</tt>.  Best regards, and happy new year!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 14:24, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
:I'm in the UK - our prefix is <code>+44</code>The United States and Canada share <code>+1</code>, France is <code>+33</code>, and Germany is <code>+49</code>.  Don't ask me the logic on that . . . ask the ITU! Night-night. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:40, 9 August 2014 (UTC)


==Wikia question==
::Hi again, Hoof Hearted! It looks like the same IP returned a week later trying to remove constructive edits on the same page. I marked their user page under the <nowiki>{{vandal}}</nowiki> template. [[User:C0NN1E|C0NN1E]] ([[User talk:C0NN1E|talk]]) 20:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Do you know how to destroy a [[:Category:Wikia|Wikia]] site? [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 01:10, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:Erm . . . well . . . apart from dropping a nuclear bomb or two on their server sites, I don't think that is possible! In all honesty, the best way is to download the full database backup of the relevant wiki, [[fork]] it by re-hosting it elsewhere, and then get all editors to abandon the Wikia wiki. I few sly edits of vandalism might help taint the accuracy of the Wikia wiki . . . but I didn't tell you that <wink, wink>!  Out of interest, which Wikia are you wanting to obliterate?  [[Uncyclopedia:User talk:Hoof Hearted|Message me on Uncyc]] if you don't want to post it here, or if you want, I can SMS you (so you get my mobile number - I never post that in public spaces).  Yours, intrigued!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 12:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)


::This is the Wikia I want to obliterate: http://spongefan.wikia.com [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 16:05, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
==Wiki Farm name change procedure?==
Howdy! I just wanted to check in to clarify someting. [[:Category:Whiki|Whiki]] has changed names and is now known as Telepedia—what should I do with the article and categories, and the pages that follow, such as [[Whiki Meta Wiki]]. Should I create new articles and mark Whiki as dead, and add a hat note? Or is there some other procedure for this (such as merging, or editing the original article etc.) Just wanted to double check before making edits! :) --[[User:Original Authority|Original Authority]] ([[User talk:Original Authority|talk]]) 06:21, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
:Hi, and sorry for the delay in replying.
:Do you have URLs for Telepedia?  And do you know the rationale for the name change?
:Depending on the reasons or cause of the name change, we would either [[redirect]] to their new name, or mark as dead and create new!  :-/  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


:::In order to make [[WikiIndex]] a more welcoming community of folks, I don't feel comfortable talking about destroying other wiki.  I understand the community at some wiki to be very frustrating, at minimum, but would rather [[WikiIndex]] try to rise above that. What are you'alls thoughts? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
==Redirecting WikiIndex-dot-com URL to subpage==
Hey, Hoof! I don't know if you're the right person to ask for this, but many old Fandom (Wikia) sites still have [[wikiindex:]] interwiki link set to http://wikiindex.com/$1. For examples, see [https://cities.fandom.com/api.php?siprop=interwikimap&action=query&meta=siteinfo cities.fandom] (a.k.a. [[Cities Wiki]]), [https://list.fandom.com/api.php?siprop=interwikimap&action=query&meta=siteinfo list.fandom] ([[WikiLists]]) and the ''Star Trek'' wiki, [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/api.php?siprop=interwikimap&action=query&meta=siteinfo memory-alpha.fandom] ([[Memory Alpha]]).


:::: A Wikia filled with sockpuppetry and pedophiles can be quite maddening, as I'm sure you can understand. [[User:Sweetie Belle|Sweetie Belle]] ([[User talk:Sweetie Belle|talk]]) 17:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
The problem is, https://wikiindex.com/aaaa or any URL to dot-com with any subpage just redirects to the homepage (https://wikiindex.org). Thoughts on fixing how that domain redirection is set up? —[[User:AStranger195|AStranger195]] ([[User talk:AStranger195|talk]]) 13:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
::::: Mark, <u>we</u> here at WikiIndex arn't destroying wiki, not even a Wikia wiki!  The only folks who destroy Wikia wikis are Wikia themselvesAnd WikiIndex is not the arbiter of the whole wiki worldI don't think my 'tongue-in-cheek' jest to Sweetie Belle about nuking [[Spongebob Fanon]] was to be taken as anything other than a joke!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 20:03, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:Hello, to get that issue fixed, you need to ask on [[Wikia Community Central (en)]] to get one of their Interwiki Administrators to update their global interwiki table - including updating many to httpsThat is unfortunately out of control of WikiIndexBest regards [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 17:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


:::::: ummm, nothing I wrote was directed at you Sean. ;-p ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:: What about fixing it on your end, and fixing all legacy interwiki links in the process? Doesn't WikiIndex have control of the wikiindex.com domain? --[[User:AStranger195|AStranger195]] ([[User talk:AStranger195|talk]]) 05:52, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
:::::::Well, it's on my talk page! :-/ [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:48, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:::I am not sure about the Wikiindex dot com domain.  Maybe you can email our owner, [[Raymond King]], as he may still own the dot com domain.
:::As for Wikia or Fandom, they have zero interest in cooperation with external wiki sites.  Indeed, Wikia removed many of the tools used for creating relationships between themselves and non-Wikia sites a long time ago!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
::: I have control of the name, but don't have the technical skills.  I'd be happy to give it a try if someone can make it easy for me. [[Raymond King]] | <small>[[User talk:Rathbone|talk]]</small>


: ''sure, I understand that." ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
==Please see the message on the following talk page, adding this CSS code will fix the tab issue==
[[MediaWiki talk:Vector.css]]


::::::: So then, let's shift this discussion to a higher level [[Talk:What WikiIndexers don't do]] so that an instructive page as an expansion of our WikiIndex:About page will be created. Well, I created the page, but it needs to be filled. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
I can't edit it myself because I'm not an administrator.
[[User:William Lupinacci|William Lupinacci]] ([[User talk:William Lupinacci|talk]]) 22:28, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
:{{Done}}  Thanks for the advice, cheers!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 08:34, 17 June 2023 (UTC)


==[[:Category:Wikimania|Wikimania]]==
==RMS Titanic Wiki‎s==
What about [[Wikimania 2013|2013]], [[Wikimania 2014|2014]]..? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi,
:Create the articles <wink>.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:46, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


==[[Template:Wiki]]==
just worked on [[RMS Titanic Wiki‎]] and created a template for its sister wikis. Please check it whether it's OK that way.
<tt>|wide logo        = <nowiki><!--insert 'y' when the logo is too wide AND/OR the title is too long--></nowiki></tt>


This line in itself causes the condition "wide logo" regardless of any y/n setting. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:03, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Also, I'm wondering about this website: [https://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/introduction.html Encyclopedia Titanica]. Does this fit in here? It's an online database for a specific topic with a community, but OTOH, it doesn't seem to be a real wiki, esp. since it was started in 1996.--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 00:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
:Really, not come across that!  Can you provide an example?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 10:50, 15 August 2014 (UTC)


::I shall use the random page to select the Wiki ... [[3D Dot Game Heroes Wiki]] ... Uploaded the Logo ... inserted the lines for Logo and wide .... marked n ... voilà! deleted the line .... Logo position is normal again. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:07, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
:The Titanic template is fantastic!  Thank you.  As for Encyclopedia Titanica, that does not use any known wiki software (from what I can ascertain), so it really has no place here. Regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:49, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
:: You're welcome. I'll make a multi-language template for the James Bond wikis next.--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 07:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
:::A [[:Category:James Bond|James Bond]] template will be awesome, thanks.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


::Now Your turn! Show me ANY Wiki-Page where You got the '|wide logo =' set in a way that the logo is not placed as wide. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:10, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
==Login problem==
This month I got an odd login error: I wanted to log in, but got an error message that I had no cookies activated. My browser settings were the same as they are now, and as you can see, I am logged in. --[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 09:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
:Which browser are you using?  For me, when I use Safari on my Mac, I regularly get cookie warnings for sites which I know that I have already accepted, and it frequently logs me out of sites which I regularly use.  I never have those issues when using Opera browser!  Regards.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:03, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


:::Clear your page cache.  [[3D Dot Game Heroes Wiki]] looks perfectly ok to me.  You have discovered another anomoly in [[Template:Wiki]] – the wide logo switch will recognise ANY character (not just 'y') to force a 'wide logo' layout. [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:34, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
==Do you know a wiki with a smart user community?==
Somehow I don't feel satisfied with the various communities I'm a member of. You know about so many wikis. Can you recommend one to me which has science and/or fiction as a topic, and an intelligent user base? Maybe one with restricted access?


:::: Sure it looks OK right now, because I removed that line. See the DIFF in the versions! http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=3D_Dot_Game_Heroes_Wiki&diff=prev&oldid=180955 and following. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:44, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
TIA, --[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 20:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
:::::I really can't see what the problem is.  It is rendering exactly as designed by the template!  <confused.com>  :-////  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


::::::Whatever. It does. I checked with another browser:Firefox which I never before used for WikiIndex. So no cache or anything-thing. Show me ANY Wiki-page where the wide-logo-line is used and the logo is not set in wide layout! This was next step, not misunderstanding what I tried to show. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:14, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
:Hello, and apologies for late reply.  Apart from trawling through [[:Category:Science]], it is difficult for me to make personal recommendations. [[SklogWiki]] is a high-level science wiki, run by a former WikiIndex editor.  [[Psiram]] appears to be a quality site, its German language version is fairly active.  [[RationalWiki (en)]] includes lots of science, as do the various [[:Category:Uncyclopedia]]s.  Best regards, [[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean P</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]] / [[Staff]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 11:36, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
:::::::If I can not replicate the problem, how can I then prove to you the info you are asking?  Maybe you ought to ask in a more appropriate place?!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:21, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
:: Thanks for your suggestions. For SklogWiki I don't have the right background, and RationalWiki has many readworthy articles, but the userbase has detoriated IMO. Still thanks for Psiram, I'll have to look at it.--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 02:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)


You are saying the template works. So what is so difficult to show my ANY case of success. Any wiki-page whatsoever where it works, just ANY of Your choice instead of asking me another question.?
== Redirect Please ==
:It's late, I'm tired, and I have a headache. I'll look at this again in fresh light tomorrow, OK?  :)  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 22:33, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


Good morning ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 14:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Please can you make this page https://wikiindex.org/Taerel_Worldbuilding_Wiki Redirect to [[Taerel Wiki]] and merge content as fitting please?
:Look again at [[3D Dot Game Heroes]].  I've reinstated <tt>|wide logo        = <nowiki><!--insert 'y' when the logo is too wide AND/OR the title is too long--></nowiki></tt> and the article is NOT displaying the wide logo format.  Please note, there is NO 'active' text in the wide logo field line – the commented-out text is the same as if no text was there at all.  As I previously mentioned, in the diff you quote above, you used the letter '''n''' – this will still force a wide logo display, as will ANY text.  You could type in 'Mo Farah for gold' in the wide logo field, and it will still force the wide logo display.  You seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/172.26.16.215|172.26.16.215]] 22:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)


::OK, the mole is back ;-) Now I see, <u>ANY text makes it wide</u>. So, for the moment it is easiest to leave the commented-out explanation in. Besides that, can You fix this parameter-problem so that we don't get mountains of wide logos? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:08, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
== Are you OK, Sean? ==
:::Correct!!!!  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 17:55, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


That wasn't a test edit. But I just noticed that it was at the wrong place and I was about to change that. You where faster ;-)   So, until fixed, where do You want to have that note?  [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 17:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
For some weeks (it feels like it), I've tried to login, but the wiki was always down. That's why I wondered whether something had happened to you.--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 21:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
:You seem to be the only person who has had difficulty with this!  The 'commented out' help text seems clear enough to me, but agreed it could do with some tweaking. Instead of adding further complicated help text, I'll look into changing the template, so that ONLY 'y' will render wide logo mode – but that requires complex syntax, which I'm not 100% familiar with, so either I'll need to read-up on the subject, or find someone else to edit the template!  I will add a better help note on [[Form:Wiki]] – for those who use that.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 17:55, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
=== engine ===
The form 2 add a Wiki should have a default value for <engine (wiki software)> [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:23, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


:Not really, that field has a drop-down list.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
== Spammer alert ==


::Does it? And if it would, would it be impossible to set a default? [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:37, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
172.26.16.37 inserted handbag ads on the [[Alternativgeschichte-Wiki]] page. Could you ban him?--[[User:Max Sinister|Max Sinister]] ([[User talk:Max Sinister|talk]]) 13:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 
== deserted pics ==
 
Besides that I stopped WikiLogoing deserted files because there is a major question to be solved first. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 
:Finally, what is the major question which needs answering regarding deserted image files?  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 21:17, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 
:: this is asked here: http://wikiindex.org/Category_talk:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki#Funny_place_to_be_for_an_image
Wait a minute or two, until I added clarification on that page ;-) [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 
==[[:Category:WikiLogo|wiki logo]]==
Is there a regular way to find the URL of the logo of a [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]]?
Last time this did work:
 
http://wiki.affenfelsen.de/images/
 
{{SERVER}}/images/
 
but in our case the dir listing is blocked. Since the logo could have ANY name, I think the next best is to look for a path. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 
:Have you tried the search function?  It is discussed elsewhere on this wiki.  Oh, please don't delete comments on my or any other talk page.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 15:14, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 
I saw only this: [[WikiIndex:Adding Pictures]] but this explains where to put the pic, not from where to get it. I was asking specifically regarding [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]]. I thought You know something about its structure.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
:I don't claim to know anything about the structure of MW (I trust you arn't getting confused with [[StructuredData]] which is part of the [[:Category:Semantic MediaWiki|Semantic MediaWiki]] plug-in)?!  There is (IIRC) an example of one path on [[Category talk:MediaWiki]], and there are also examples on one of the Wikipedia template talk page [[Template talk:Wikipedia#Logo hotlinking|here]].  Crucially, all WMF wikis use their own unique version of MediaWiki, and 'customer users' (such as WikiIndex) are configured slightly differently.
 
What web browser are you using? I ask, because the best way go get logo URL is from a browser which allows inspecting elements of web pages.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:16, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 
I assume this http://wikiindex.org/skins/common/images/wiki.png would help me if I understood it.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 23:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
:That is just the default placeholder logo as supplied with the downloaded MW software.  [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 02:16, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 
I think it is more than that. Because it says '$wgLogo' which looks like a kind of system variable. that could be a lead to a generally functioning phrase like <nowiki>{{Server}}/$wgLogo-path.png</nowiki> or so.[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 15:16, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
:[[mw:Manual:$wgLogo|$wgLogo]] is a PHP variable for MediaWiki site logo configuration which [http://wikiindex.org/LocalSettings.php people usually don't have access to]. --[[YiFei]] | <small>[[User talk:Zhuyifei1999|talk]]</small> 16:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 
== wiki aventurica ==
 
http://www.wiki-aventurica.de/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:StipenTreublatt#Euer_Wiki_ist_nun_bei_WikiIndex.org_eingetragen._:-.29
new:[[Wiki Aventurica]]old:[[WikiAventurica]]. Didn't see the old one because search for 'Aventurica' did not show anything. So, what to do? Rename, rework, remove? Ähhh... Rework, remove, rename ;-)[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 22:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:22, 16 April 2024

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Pages for deletion[edit]

Hi, please review Category:Pages for deletion and delete those pages. Several pages have accumulated during the absence of the administrators. Thanks. --Usa11 (talk) 16:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Good day, thanks for welcoming me. I created a new user page so that's okay, thanks anyway for the proposal. For the wikis that I have marked as to be deleted, they are all unreachable through archive sites such as archive.org, so the actual existence of those wikis is questioned. --Usa11 (talk) 12:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Account[edit]

I requested an account. Could you please accept it? 172.26.12.237 18:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello 172.26.12.237. Can you please advise me the username you used for requesting a new account? Thanks. --Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 19:12, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
That would be "MJL" :) 172.26.12.237 22:51, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Now approved. Welcome to WikiIndex

Please delete[edit]

Hey HH! Could you please delete Category:Pedosexuality?

Thanks! –MJLTalk 23:00, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done --Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 09:38, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

incels dot wiki vs incelwiki.com[edit]

incels dot wiki was legitimately stolen from the creators and main writers of the material itself, (this is a moderated wiki with only like 3-4 particularly active users ever) and since it was stolen, at least one writer (Wizard32) has put on very sketchy URLs on at least one page of incels dot wiki, which they haven't removed for months. They host it on their server, which also hosts a site of theirs which we've found is under heavy investigation by law enforcement. They own sanctionedsuicide and we shouldn't be advertising anything on their servers imho.

This is not a group I would trust as a source on even their own sites Following reports of minors on their sanctionedsuicide.com (now sanctioned-suicide.org) dying, Epik dropped all their sites, followed by what seems to be Tucows or Njalla. Years ago it was Afilias that dropped all their sites.

"In the United States, anyone under the age of 18 is legally a minor. There is no ambiguity here. These are children, the site operators, and members know it, yet continue to discuss the act of suicide in great detail as if they are above or beyond both legal or moral reach." --owner of fixthe26th

I don't think we should be advertising any sites on their server, especially considering what seem to be sketchy URLs on .wiki rn that was added by a writer after they stole it. The owners of those sites call themselves 'master' and 'sergeantincel', they own incels.is (formerly incels.co/incels.me)/sanctionedsuicide etc, and have been dropped by multiple registrars.

Which is why I moved the article I wrote to .com. We have nothing to do with incels.is and their sites/wikis. They just let us use a mediawiki installation for a year until they hijacked it. They lorded it over us the entire time and always tried to push sociopathy on the wiki. We created their "general disclaimer" ourselves, and also individually released under CC on our talk pages so they couldn't have them claim we weren't who we were after the new domain. Since we released under CC individually on talk pages, we aren't pursuing legal options against .wiki but we do have discord records of them claiming that we owned it. (Discord allows exports of private conservations, and retains deleted messages) But .wiki is mostly inactive compared to .com, and is dramatically smaller as well. It's our wiki stuck in 2018 plus garbage they added after they banned everyone. .com also has 5 languages. 14:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Sources:

If you still want to keep incels.wiki on, can we have our own page? We also run a huge wiki farm and can add our others, most of which have nothing to do with incels William Lupinacci (talk) 15:06, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


Thanks :) William Lupinacci (talk) 15:07, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Semantics on pages[edit]

Thanks for all your great work: I'm glad to see you taking ownership around here again. Of course, I'm here to complain but on pages like Federated wiki (concept), you've used semantic elements that don't match the content, like a semi-colon to start a definition list but all you really want is bold. Koavf (talk) 03:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm confused! Federated wiki (concept) (the article) does not have any semantic data, because it does not use use the {{Wiki}} infobox template. Semantic MediaWiki will only work with semantic data from Semantic Forms, and they can only work from correctly coded templates such as infoboxes. Or am I missing something else? Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 22:47, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, pardon me: I think my earlier post was too vague. Starting a line with a semi-colon will create a description or definition list. These liss should be followed by one or more items that start with a colon. E.g. below:
Hoof Hearted
A user at WikiIndex
An all-around kewl d00d
My friend
Etc. If you want to make something bold, use three apostrophes: this will employ the b or bring to attention element. If you start a definition list but don't follow it with definitions, that's poor HTML semantics and is confusing to things like search engines indexing pages or screen readers attempting to vocalize the content of a page, etc. Does that make sense? Koavf (talk) 23:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Ah, okay, I understand your point now. Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for my delay in replying – I was sleeping on my thoughts! Howeverrrrr, I am not sure I 100% agree – though I am open to further reasoning. My understanding, and please forgive me if I'm wrong, I thought that MediaWiki is based on wikitext, rather than HTML? I accept that MediaWiki still relies on a small number of HTML elements (along with CSS, Unicode, and JavaScript), particularly where there is no direct corresponding function within wikitext; a few examples being: <bdi>, <pre>, <sub>, and <sup>. But there are many more elements that are considered highly verboten within wikitext (especially such as MediaWiki), examples <dl>, <dt>, and <dd> (for descriptions, which you eloquently show above with use of the colon and semi-colon), <ol> (for numbered lists, wikitext uses the hash), <h1> to <h6> (for levels of section headings, wikitext uses the equals sign - and I would imagine any editor on Wikipedia who used HTML to create section heading to be robustly chastised!), <p> (for creating paragraphs, when a simple carriage return suffices for wikitext).
As for robots, indexers, and accessibility assisted technologies, I was under the impression that they all worked on the rendered page, rather than its constructed elements? Again, please correct me if I am wrong.
Finally, and I guess this goes back to the original reason for your comment to me, search engine optimisation and performance. Again, my own thinking here; because articles here on WikiIndex are generally (a) very small, when compared to Wikipedia pages, and (b) follow a nigh-on identical format and structure (for articles on wiki, wiki engines, wiki farms, and wiki people) – do we actually need section headings (apart from long articles, or when section headings are highly desirable to separate specific areas within the prose)? And a follow-on from that, if yes, is there any quantifiable value in a search engine indexing say the section(s) on references and / or external links? Surely, surely, surely, for those who search and then find WikiIndex in search providers, we want search results to KEEP folks here in WikiIndex, rather than display searches for external links / sources which will take folks AWAY from WikiIndex?
I greatly appreciate your learned advice and expertise. WikiIndex is a lonely ship to steer alone! Best regards always, Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 14:54, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the thoughtful response. To be clear, my main motivation is proper semantics for accessibility's sake and then things like machine indexing and search engine optimization, etc. Whatever we insert as MediaWiki's code (such as '''bold''' text) gets output as HTML because that's what everything on the Web is, so misusing tags—either by directly inputting the HTML or by using some wikitext that is then converted into HTML—is bad. I don't know that we need headings on pages that are short but I'll defer to you if you prefer one style over another. I do think that making a good outline structure is good for things like generating outlines with OPML or having anchors in a page that are linkable but it's not something that I think is urgent. Koavf (talk) 15:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Editing others' comments[edit]

I'm not sure that I understand this spate of edits. Why are you adding links into others' posts on a user talk page? Koavf (talk) 03:27, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that it is very helpful to add wikilinks, as they provide valuable backlinks, and breadcrumbs to any previous discussions on said subjects. I personally always use backlinks to find established consensus, or other trains of thought when trying to improve all articles here on WikiIndex, including policy.
I accept that it is forbidden to edit other users talk pages on Wikipedia - but we are NOT Wikipedia, and we have no need to be bound by their policies! Best regards. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 22:43, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Blocked?[edit]

My IP address is blocked, yet I've never even been here before. I'm unable to email an admin, so how am I supposed to make an account and list my wiki? Korra Baskerville 172.26.22.41 22:10, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for reaching out. Your current IP address is not blocked, and has been used for editing here on WikiIndex. However, a similar IP address was blocked for adding spam. Do you have a static IP address, or maybe you are using a public Wi-Fi access? If you can provide more detail, I will help you in any way that I can. Best regards. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 22:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
I have no idea how that post was able to get through. I tried to edit it and was blocked. Right now, I'm using a VPN to edit the Mystery Dungeon Franchise Wiki page and have managed to put in an account request under the email [email protected]. I'm using my own home Wi-Fi based out of Noth-Colorado in the United States. - Korra II Allison Baskerville 172.26.22.41 22:42, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Ok, forgive my lax behaviour for not checking RecentChanges more regularly. I just approved your account now - User:Korra II A Baskerville.
I am slightly confused why three different accounts have been requested from the same IP address, but with three different e-mail addresses, and different forwarding IP addresses. I will look into more detail when I get some time. Best. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 22:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

CWCki[edit]

I wonder if you could review whether the CWCki can remain on this wiki or whether a substantial rewrite is needed? The wiki is linked with a website that has been accused of stalking and vulnerable users, and I have to tell you that the subject of the wiki is one of the victims.

Further info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kiwi_Farms

172.26.22.41 00:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello. As a general rule, here on WikiIndex, we do not delete articles on wiki which some people might find offensive or upsetting. I have spent considerable time reading CWCki, along with its Wikipedia article and associated WP talk page.
This is my own personal comments. First and foremost, I do not like CWCki - I do not like the way they obsessively detail every minute detail of the life of the person who is the subject of said wiki. However, I must stress in the strongest possible way - my own personal dislike is absolutely not grounds to delete its entry here on WikiIndex. Saying that, I agree that our own article needs a considerable re-write. Unfortunately, I am just not familiar enough with the content of the wiki overall, so it would not be appropriate for me to submit my own thoughts.
As to the Wikipedia article, I find the tone of its coverage very alarming. Strong viewpoints are endemic in that WP article, and there is much bias, and very little neutrality. Discussions on its talk page continuously highlight those issues, but without any real action on balancing and toning down the WP article!
In light of my comments, please feel free to edit our entry here on WikiIndex. Of course, please ensure that your own additons are both factual and neutral. Kind regards. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 02:06, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Thumbnails for new images are broken for some reason, Mediawiki can't fnd /usr/bin/convert[edit]

So new images aren't working to add to the wiki pages

It says "Error creating thumbnail: /bin/bash: /usr/bin/convert: No such file or directory Error code: 127" You probaby need to install imagemagick or configure the imagemagick location in LocalSettings.php

Other people's prior image upload attempts also resulted in failure as shown here https://wikiindex.org/special:filelist

Thanks :) William Lupinacci (talk) 15:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello William, and thanks for your message. Sadly, WikiIndex has a few long-standing bugs which never seem to get fixed. I am just a 'crat and regular editor here, and I don't have server access. The owner of WikiIndex is Raymond King, and he also uses Rathbone to make edits; but sadly, he is not very active. Maybe you can email Ray King and remind him of ongoing problems? It might add more timber to the fire if another person contact him. Keep me in the loop please William. Best regards, --Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 00:15, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Needing a couple of renames and logo uploads[edit]

Hi, an IP editor here (who doesn't have file/move rights). Could you please assess logo upload and article rename categories? Particularly for these, which I edited recently, if not all (thanks!): Isvwiki, Wječnika. -172.26.6.144 02:03, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Boobpedia[edit]

Semiprotection of Boobpedia may be useful. This topic invites SPAM. --Manorainjan 12:02, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I see. Now protected from IP editors. Thanks for letting me know. Best. Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 16:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Turkey on the main page[edit]

I don't think it's nice to shove it as the first thing people read when they visit the wiki, especially in that demeaning voice. It's good to know about Turkey's censorship (among many other problems), but at least water it down and don't make it political, because there are much worse things than having a wiki blocked. Imagine it saying "Thank goodness not all countries are like United States!!!! Cherish your school/market not getting sh0t down every other day!" -172.26.1.10 15:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

As utterly tragic and heartbreaking the many school shootings in the US are - unless there is a wiki site which deals with the said issue, it has no place here on WikiIndex. Kind regards Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 14:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
I have to agree to that. This wiki should not get politicized. It shall not become the pressure relief valve for people who got no other place to express their political frustrations. Compared to this outdated remark about Türkiye (which is the proper name of that nation) the censorship for everything Russian in EU is massive and hypocritical as can be. We should not get involved into this mess here at all. --Manorainjan 06:01, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Manorainjan, firstly, you have been warned multiple times by other editors, admins and crats on this site about about changing section headings. This is your last warning. Stop - or you will be permanently blocked! Since its inception, WikiIndex has always used the anglophile names for all countries. This has been the consensus since 2006; no other WikiIndex editor or reader has had issue with this. If you do not agree with the consensus and rules here on WikiIndex, go find another wiki which you do like!
Regarding the comment of Turkey on the main page, WikiIndex is a wiki site about all wikis. That includes ALL aspects of wikis - including access and censorship. If a country - not once - but TWICE blocks total access within its entire country - breaking a fundamental European Union law on Human Rights - it is perfectly acceptable to highlight such issues!
Regarding your comment on the Russia vs EU issue - if it is affecting any aspect of wiki - find the necessary information, and provide independent citations to verify said issue. Otherwise, that has no place here on WikiIndex. Kind regards Sean, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crattalk2HH 14:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

The Wiki Rule[edit]

TV Tropes used to have an article with this name. We might use it as a resource for further wikis to add. [1] [2] — preceding unsigned comment added by Max Sinister (talkcontribs) – 01:22, 15 October 2022‎ (UTC).

Why is it called a "rule"? --Manorainjan 09:00, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
I think it is just their naming conventions and their inclusion policy maybe? I confess I am not a follower of tropes of any kind. But the older version of that page is certainly a valid resource to add any missing wiki sites here on WikiIndex, so please go ahead and add them. Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 16:13, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Image error[edit]

Howdy! Thank you for the account approval. I'm not entirely sure what happened, but I uploaded a logo for Whiki, but it seems to have thrown an error on thumbnailing (that can be seen at here). When I tried to add it to the category article and sizing it down to 180px, it also seems to have thrown an error on the category page — any idea what is wrong with it? Original Authority (talk) 03:50, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out. Sadly, we have some bugs in our software which cause problems with image display. If you look at Special:NewFiles, you will see that many file uploads fail to display thumbnail, and many will also fail to display at any manually selected pixel size other than their original upload size. Regrettably, I don't have server access, so I am not able to resolve this issue (and I have no expertise in in that area). My only suggestion is to manually resize logos to a maximum 300px and then upload again. Apologies for not being able to offer a better solution. Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 15:29, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Ah, thank you! I've successfully uploaded a new version of the image — are you able to delete File:Whiki_Logo.png if possible, please? Original Authority (talk) 07:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Now deleted. Thanks for your understanding. And welcome again. Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 14:26, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Merge policy?[edit]

I checked the Althistory page, and it says that the page should be merged with another one. OK so far, a long time ago I did that at WP, and kinda remember it also involves merging the histories so nothing is lost. But what is WI's merging policy actually? It's still a red link...--Max Sinister (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

You are indeed correct that our merge policy is still a red link :-p Indeed, many basic policies were red links until the last few years! I will endeavour to make a start on that specific policy very soon.
The actual mechanism for Merging can only be carried out by sysops, due to the licensing need to retain edit history (and attribution) of both articles. Whilst the merge function is automated, it does need oversight - because not every edit can be merged - so discretion needs to be observed before actioning it.
Regarding the Althistory, and indeed all merge requests - sometimes, an editor may mark an article for merging (in good faith) - when in fact, it should remain in its own right. Aside any genuine but accidental duplicate entries - the most common reason for mistakenly tagging for a merge is when a wiki site has changed host by way of forking (and instead of creating a new article for the new host - an editor may simply update the original wiki site to the URLs of the new host!). The original wiki site, at its original host should be preserved as its own article here (annotating its status if necessary as abandoned or dead), and using a hat-note template to point to any new host. I notice that it was Ismael755 who added the merge tag to Althistory (I think I was on an extended wiki break at that time - personal issues), and he also added a new article Alternate Future Wiki. Glancing very briefly, it appears that both sites co-existed, though I guess they now are merged into one site on Wikia. There is also the same issue with Future and The Future Wiki!
In summary, if two articles have been created about an identical site on an identical host - the articles should be merged. But if they are or were two separate wiki sites (even if say on Wikia), but have themselves since merged (usually by Wikia), the article here referring to the 'original' (even if dead) should be retained - and ideally archived links found to support it.
Hope that makes sense! :) Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 00:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
OK, I'll have to think about this a bit. But thanks for stating the merge policy.--Max Sinister (talk) 04:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Blocked me[edit]

Hello Sean,

Not sure what I was doing to look like a spammer, but thought I would ask: https://wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/172.26.30.192 Best, MarkDilley

Hello Mark. Apologies if I somehow managed to block you. There is a bug somewhere in our software, and that IP address requested an account, which I approved. And they then created a blatant spam page - Ndifreke Ukpong - which clearly had nothing to do with any wiki!
Checking the block log for that IP, they are only restricted from editing as an anon IP editor. They are still able to create new accounts, or login from existing accounts. So genuine registered users should not be blocked!
Another guy on MediaWiki.org also commented that our software configuration has bugs which are preventing password recovery emails, and Karsten also concerned about our buggy config. Regards Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 12:52, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Gotcha. Thanks for your responsiveness and clarity Sean, as always! What are the steps we can take to update/upgrade our software configuration? Best, MarkDilley
I am no expert on MediaWiki hosting, so I can not advise!
I am not sure if you have spoken with Ray recently - because Karsten Hoffmeyer (Kghbln) emailed me recently, and offered to host WikiIndex on his own ProWiki host, and upgrade the necessary software (though he never indicated any price!). Karsten would actually be a great fit for WikiIndex, because he is also an expert with Semantic MediaWiki. Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 14:16, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Small trouble with a vandal[edit]

Hi! I'm a wiki editor for the Independent Fallout Wiki and I had to deal with a vandal on our page. Essentially, an anon edit posted links to something completely irrelevant to the subject matter, as well as posting misinformation that really had no relation to the article. They also dead-named on our admins.

I was curious if there's any counter-measured to prevent this? Thanks! C0NN1E (talk) 13:56, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello C0NN1E, welcome to WikiIndex. I'm sorry for not noticing the vandalism. I now blocked the IP for one week, but if you notice anyone who is spamming or vandalising articles, please tag their user page or user talk page with either {{vandal}} or {{spammer}}. Best regards, and happy new year! Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 14:24, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi again, Hoof Hearted! It looks like the same IP returned a week later trying to remove constructive edits on the same page. I marked their user page under the {{vandal}} template. C0NN1E (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Farm name change procedure?[edit]

Howdy! I just wanted to check in to clarify someting. Whiki has changed names and is now known as Telepedia—what should I do with the article and categories, and the pages that follow, such as Whiki Meta Wiki. Should I create new articles and mark Whiki as dead, and add a hat note? Or is there some other procedure for this (such as merging, or editing the original article etc.) Just wanted to double check before making edits! :) --Original Authority (talk) 06:21, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi, and sorry for the delay in replying.
Do you have URLs for Telepedia? And do you know the rationale for the name change?
Depending on the reasons or cause of the name change, we would either redirect to their new name, or mark as dead and create new!  :-/ Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 21:24, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Redirecting WikiIndex-dot-com URL to subpage[edit]

Hey, Hoof! I don't know if you're the right person to ask for this, but many old Fandom (Wikia) sites still have [[wikiindex:]] interwiki link set to http://wikiindex.com/$1. For examples, see cities.fandom (a.k.a. Cities Wiki), list.fandom (WikiLists) and the Star Trek wiki, memory-alpha.fandom (Memory Alpha).

The problem is, https://wikiindex.com/aaaa or any URL to dot-com with any subpage just redirects to the homepage (https://wikiindex.org). Thoughts on fixing how that domain redirection is set up? —AStranger195 (talk) 13:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, to get that issue fixed, you need to ask on Wikia Community Central (en) to get one of their Interwiki Administrators to update their global interwiki table - including updating many to https. That is unfortunately out of control of WikiIndex. Best regards Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 17:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
What about fixing it on your end, and fixing all legacy interwiki links in the process? Doesn't WikiIndex have control of the wikiindex.com domain? --AStranger195 (talk) 05:52, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
I am not sure about the Wikiindex dot com domain. Maybe you can email our owner, Raymond King, as he may still own the dot com domain.
As for Wikia or Fandom, they have zero interest in cooperation with external wiki sites. Indeed, Wikia removed many of the tools used for creating relationships between themselves and non-Wikia sites a long time ago! Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 15:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
I have control of the name, but don't have the technical skills. I'd be happy to give it a try if someone can make it easy for me. Raymond King | talk

Please see the message on the following talk page, adding this CSS code will fix the tab issue[edit]

MediaWiki talk:Vector.css

I can't edit it myself because I'm not an administrator. William Lupinacci (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the advice, cheers! Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 08:34, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

RMS Titanic Wiki‎s[edit]

Hi,

just worked on RMS Titanic Wiki‎ and created a template for its sister wikis. Please check it whether it's OK that way.

Also, I'm wondering about this website: Encyclopedia Titanica. Does this fit in here? It's an online database for a specific topic with a community, but OTOH, it doesn't seem to be a real wiki, esp. since it was started in 1996.--Max Sinister (talk) 00:54, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

The Titanic template is fantastic! Thank you. As for Encyclopedia Titanica, that does not use any known wiki software (from what I can ascertain), so it really has no place here. Regards, Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 15:49, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'll make a multi-language template for the James Bond wikis next.--Max Sinister (talk) 07:27, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
A James Bond template will be awesome, thanks. Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 11:24, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Login problem[edit]

This month I got an odd login error: I wanted to log in, but got an error message that I had no cookies activated. My browser settings were the same as they are now, and as you can see, I am logged in. --Max Sinister (talk) 09:37, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Which browser are you using? For me, when I use Safari on my Mac, I regularly get cookie warnings for sites which I know that I have already accepted, and it frequently logs me out of sites which I regularly use. I never have those issues when using Opera browser! Regards. Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 11:03, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Do you know a wiki with a smart user community?[edit]

Somehow I don't feel satisfied with the various communities I'm a member of. You know about so many wikis. Can you recommend one to me which has science and/or fiction as a topic, and an intelligent user base? Maybe one with restricted access?

TIA, --Max Sinister (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello, and apologies for late reply. Apart from trawling through Category:Science, it is difficult for me to make personal recommendations. SklogWiki is a high-level science wiki, run by a former WikiIndex editor. Psiram appears to be a quality site, its German language version is fairly active. RationalWiki (en) includes lots of science, as do the various Category:Uncyclopedias. Best regards, Sean P, aka Hoof HeartedAdmin / 'Crat / Stafftalk2HH 11:36, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your suggestions. For SklogWiki I don't have the right background, and RationalWiki has many readworthy articles, but the userbase has detoriated IMO. Still thanks for Psiram, I'll have to look at it.--Max Sinister (talk) 02:59, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Redirect Please[edit]

Please can you make this page https://wikiindex.org/Taerel_Worldbuilding_Wiki Redirect to Taerel Wiki and merge content as fitting please? 172.26.16.215 22:23, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Are you OK, Sean?[edit]

For some weeks (it feels like it), I've tried to login, but the wiki was always down. That's why I wondered whether something had happened to you.--Max Sinister (talk) 21:30, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Spammer alert[edit]

172.26.16.37 inserted handbag ads on the Alternativgeschichte-Wiki page. Could you ban him?--Max Sinister (talk) 13:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)