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==Language==
==Language==
should the langauge here be [[:Category:Wiki Multilingual|multilingual]] or [[:Category:Wiki English|english]]? --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)
Should the language here be [[:Category:Wiki Multilingual|multilingual]] or [[:Category:Wiki English|english]]? --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)


==Publicize!==
==Publicize!==
It is a shame that [[WikiIndex]] has such limited community visibility!  Would one of the founders please put articles about WikiIndex in at least [[Wikinfo]] and [[WikiKnowledge]], where I believe they would be welcome?  I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles...  Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere?  (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.)  Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find.  (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.)--[[User:69.87.200.5|69.87.200.5]] 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST)
It is a shame that [[WikiIndex]] has such limited community visibility!  Would one of the [[founder]]s please put articles about WikiIndex in at least [[Wikinfo]] and [[WikiKnowledge]], where I believe they would be welcome?  I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles...  Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere?  (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.)  Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find.  (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.200.5|69.87.200.5]] 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST)
:: Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at RecentChangesCamp in Portland this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the [http://2007.recentchangescamp.org/Wiki_Index session notes]. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST)
:Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at [[RecentChangesCamp]] in [[:Category:Portland|Portland]] this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the [http://2007.RecentChangesCamp.org/Wiki_Index session notes]. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST)
::: So much to talk about...  Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic/pageview data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing?  [[Special:Popularpages]] would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). [[Special:Statistics]] also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data.  What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software is so limited in some ways. ***  Many websites have not populated their [[Project:Copyrights]] page!  You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the recentchangescamp wiki you link to above.) --[[User:69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST)
::So much to talk about...  Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic / page-view data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing?  [[Special:PopularPages]] would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). [[Special:Statistics]] also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data.  What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software is so limited in some ways. ***  Many websites have not populated their [[Project:Copyrights]] page!  You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the [[RecentChangesCamp]] wiki you link to above.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST)


Why doesn't this website have a favicon?--[[User:69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)
==Favicon==
: ''I like the way you folks are thinking!  I created a favicon [[Image:Preview 16x16.png]] but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask [[John Stanton]] to add it.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
Why doesn't this website have a favicon? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)
:: The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder.  But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has its own special way of doing things?  I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually.  I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale.  And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available?  Maybe just two separate keys?--[[User:69.87.203.22|69.87.203.22]] 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST)
:I like the way you folks are thinking!  I created a favicon File:Preview 16x16.png but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask [[John Stanton]] to add it.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
::The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder.  But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has its own special way of doing things?  I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually.  I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale.  And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available?  Maybe just two separate keys? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.203.22|69.87.203.22]] 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST)


==Feedback/Suggestions==
==Feedback/Suggestions==
There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how [[WikiIndex]] works.  This page is one place.  [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk]] is another place.  [[WikiIndex:FrequentlyAskedQuestions]] is another place.  User talk pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: [[Special:ListUsers]]).  (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.)--[[User:69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)
There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how [[WikiIndex]] works.  This page is one place.  [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk]] is another place.  [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions]] is another place.  [[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|User talk]] pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: [[Special:ListUsers]]).  (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)


==Be merciful==
==Be merciful==
Let us spread mercy, not conflict.  Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "'''edited mercilessly'''".  It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest.  It is no coincidence that [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage editors to treat other's work in such a fashion.  Let us rather encourage ourselves to be '''sincere, careful, and considerate'''. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate:
Let us spread mercy, not conflict.  Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "'''edited mercilessly'''".  It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest.  It is no coincidence that [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage [[editor]]s to treat other's work in such a fashion.  Let us rather encourage ourselves to be '''sincere, careful, and considerate'''. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate:
:All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as [[WikiIndex:Fair use|fair use]], with copyrights retained by their owners (see [[Project:Copyrights]] for details). '''Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed.''' You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
:All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as [[WikiIndex:Fair use|fair use]], with copyrights retained by their owners (see [[WikiIndex:Copyrights]] for details). '''Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed.''' You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
:: I like this.  What is the page to edit for me to change it?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
::I like this.  What is the page to edit for me to change it?  [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
::: Good question.  There are two superficial matches at [[Special:Allmessages]], linking to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]].  Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software.--[[User:69.87.202.225|69.87.202.225]] 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
:::Good question.  There are two superficial matches at [[Special:Allmessages]], linking to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]].  Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.202.225|69.87.202.225]] 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
:::: It seems I've made the change to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and it works.  Please verify. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)
::::It seems I've made the change to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and it works.  Please verify. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)


Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box?--[[User:69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST)
Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST)


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==Deletion?==
==Deletion?==
Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document ''other wikis''. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color="#D47C14">itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document ''other wikis''. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color=#D47C14>itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST)


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Latest revision as of 16:36, 29 May 2024

this talk page is for discussing improvements to the WikiIndex article

See also: Talk:Wiki Index

Language[edit]

Should the language here be multilingual or english? --Ray 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)

Publicize![edit]

It is a shame that WikiIndex has such limited community visibility! Would one of the founders please put articles about WikiIndex in at least Wikinfo and WikiKnowledge, where I believe they would be welcome? I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles... Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere? (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.) Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find. (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.) --69.87.200.5 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST)

Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at RecentChangesCamp in Portland this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the session notes. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. John 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST)
So much to talk about... Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic / page-view data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing? Special:PopularPages would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). Special:Statistics also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data. What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard MediaWiki software is so limited in some ways. *** Many websites have not populated their Project:Copyrights page! You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the RecentChangesCamp wiki you link to above.) --69.87.199.195 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST)

Favicon[edit]

Why doesn't this website have a favicon? --69.87.199.195 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)

I like the way you folks are thinking! I created a favicon File:Preview 16x16.png but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask John Stanton to add it. Best, MarkDilley
The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder. But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe MediaWiki has its own special way of doing things? I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually. I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale. And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available? Maybe just two separate keys? --69.87.203.22 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST)

Feedback/Suggestions[edit]

There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how WikiIndex works. This page is one place. WikiIndex talk:Community talk is another place. WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions is another place. User talk pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: Special:ListUsers). (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.) --69.87.199.67 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)

Be merciful[edit]

Let us spread mercy, not conflict. Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "edited mercilessly". It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest. It is no coincidence that Wikipedia is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage editors to treat other's work in such a fashion. Let us rather encourage ourselves to be sincere, careful, and considerate. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate:

All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as fair use, with copyrights retained by their owners (see WikiIndex:Copyrights for details). Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed. You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
I like this. What is the page to edit for me to change it? TedErnst | talk 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
Good question. There are two superficial matches at Special:Allmessages, linking to MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2. Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --69.87.202.225 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
It seems I've made the change to MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and it works. Please verify. TedErnst | talk 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)

Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box? --69.87.199.67 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST)

[edit]

Um... the logo on the infobox says "WikiIndex - SwitchWiki" while the logo in the corner of the site says "WikiIndex - IndexWiki".

Languages[edit]

I think a subpage for each language would be better than an endless growing WikiIndex entry. BTW: The Welcome page could be translated too (In this case I'd prefer to have an ordinary page for each language, named in this language and coupled by a navigation template). --Wolf | talk 03:14, 30 March 2009 (EDT)

Deletion?[edit]

Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document other wikis. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST)

Sortable list of articles[edit]

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Jimmy Wales here here here here here here here here satire here here here here here here Jimmy Wales
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I've put this in the following talk pages: — talk:a Storehouse of Knowledge, talk:Citizendium, talk:Conservapedia, talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica, talk:Encyclopedia Of Stupid, talk:Liberapedia (Wikia), talk:Libertapedia, talk:RationalWiki (en), talk:RationalWikiWiki, talk:WikiLeaks, talk:English Wikipedia, talk:Español Wikipedia, talk:Simple English Wikipedia, talk:Wikinfo, and talk:Wikitruth. —206.130.173.53 13:17, 21 January 2011 (PST)