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==Edit history== | ==Edit history== | ||
This [[:Category:Templates|template]] was created from the existing table at [[:Category:Wiki | This [[:Category:Templates|template]] was created from the existing table at [[:Category:Wiki status]]. For its edit history, please see [http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Category:Wiki_Status&action=history here]. --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 13:58, 2 January 2012 (PST) | ||
: um, wow, nice work!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | : um, wow, nice work!! ~~ [[MarkDilley]] | ||
::Thank-you :) Are there any other languages which need to be added, or any other amendments? --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 03:37, 3 January 2012 (PST) | ::Thank-you :) Are there any other languages which need to be added, or any other amendments? --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 03:37, 3 January 2012 (PST) | ||
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==Dead vs Inactive== | ==Dead vs Inactive== | ||
Dead, maybe the action for dead wiki is to make the template inactive, not really needing inactive as a stage... not sure, will ponder, look forward to your thoughts on it. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | Dead, maybe the action for dead wiki is to make the template inactive, not really needing inactive as a stage... not sure, will ponder, look forward to your thoughts on it. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | ||
:Aha - I didn't want to make any drastic changes – but yes, I agree, we have un-necessary duplication. [[:Category:Dead]] currently has 270 articles, and Category:Inactive currently has 860 articles. I would personally prefer that the Dead category be kept; as Inactive has the potential to be confused with [[:Category:Dormant]]. In terms of templates, we currently have both 'Template:Wiki dead' and 'Template:Inactive' – 'Wiki dead' renders a page better than 'Inactive' – the least preferred one can be redirected to the other. Which ever way you wish to proceed with the 1000+ affected articles, you'll need to create a [[:Category:User | :Aha - I didn't want to make any drastic changes – but yes, I agree, we have un-necessary duplication. [[:Category:Dead]] currently has 270 articles, and Category:Inactive currently has 860 articles. I would personally prefer that the Dead category be kept; as Inactive has the potential to be confused with [[:Category:Dormant]]. In terms of templates, we currently have both 'Template:Wiki dead' and 'Template:Inactive' – 'Wiki dead' renders a page better than 'Inactive' – the least preferred one can be redirected to the other. Which ever way you wish to proceed with the 1000+ affected articles, you'll need to create a [[:Category:User bot|bot account]] to process all the changes :p --[[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] 12:16, 8 January 2012 (PST) | ||
::It doesnt look like this has been resolved yet. The English descriptions for "dead" and "inactive" are still identical, whereas in other languages they are seemingly differentiated. A better description of inactive appears on the Category:Inactive page: "An Inactive wiki is a wiki that was once Active but can temporarily not be connect to; or, displays an error." (although "connect" should read "connected"). I think "temporarily" is the key word here, although in reality this can probably only be presumed. --[[User:Thedugganaut|thedugganaut]] ([[User talk:Thedugganaut|talk]]) 15:26, 14 September 2012 (PDT) | ::It doesnt look like this has been resolved yet. The English descriptions for "dead" and "inactive" are still identical, whereas in other languages they are seemingly differentiated. A better description of inactive appears on the Category:Inactive page: "An Inactive wiki is a wiki that was once Active but can temporarily not be connect to; or, displays an error." (although "connect" should read "connected"). I think "temporarily" is the key word here, although in reality this can probably only be presumed. --[[User:Thedugganaut|thedugganaut]] ([[User talk:Thedugganaut|talk]]) 15:26, 14 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
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{|class="wikitable" width=100% | {|class="wikitable" width=100% | ||
|+<big><big>[[:Category:Wiki | |+<big><big>[[:Category:Wiki status|Wiki status]] comparison table</big></big><br><small>(scroll down past the table to see the list of [[wiki]]s in each [[Special:Categories|category]])</small> | ||
!style="background:#aacccc; width: 8%"|status<br>name | !style="background:#aacccc; width: 8%"|status<br>name | ||
!style="background:#aacccc; width:13%"|description<br><small>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])</small> | !style="background:#aacccc; width:13%"|description<br><small>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]])</small> | ||
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==Big gap between dormant and active== | ==Big gap between dormant and active== | ||
Where does one draw the line between dormant and active? There are some wikis with not much activity other than a continual battle against spam. They keep the spam down but don't accomplish much else. This chart has no middle ground between dormant and active, though; there are a lot of wikis with low, but greater than zero, activity. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:43, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | Where does one draw the line between dormant and active? There are some wikis with not much activity other than a continual battle against spam. They keep the spam down but don't accomplish much else. This chart has no middle ground between dormant and active, though; there are a lot of wikis with low, but greater than zero, activity. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:43, 13 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
:I would say [[:Category: | :I would say [[:Category:Needs love]]. I've been using this for wikis which have little or no 'constructive' editing, but have occasional 'maintenance' edits to delete spam. Does this seem ok to you? [[User:Hoof Hearted|Hoof Hearted]] • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:54, 14 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
::That makes sense, although the description may need to be broadened because "functional but empty, or over-run by spam" doesn't really cover those situations in which the wiki has content, is kept free of spam, but has only a small amount of (but greater than zero) other constructive edits. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:59, 14 September 2012 (PDT) | ::That makes sense, although the description may need to be broadened because "functional but empty, or over-run by spam" doesn't really cover those situations in which the wiki has content, is kept free of spam, but has only a small amount of (but greater than zero) other constructive edits. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 15:59, 14 September 2012 (PDT) | ||
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!colspan=3|<span style=font-size:22px>[[:Category:Wiki | !colspan=3|<span style=font-size:22px>[[:Category:Wiki status|Wiki status]] [[Template:Wiki status|comparison table]]</span><br><span style=font-size:11px>''click on the individual status [[Special:Categories|category]] links in the coloured left column for a fuller detail of each''<br>(scroll down past the table to see the list of [[wiki]]s in each category, click on <nowiki>[Collapse]</nowiki> at the top right to hide this table)</span> | ||
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!style="background:#aacccc; width: 8%"|[[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki | !style="background:#aacccc; width: 8%"|[[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki status|status]]<br>name | ||
!style="background:#aacccc; width:14%"|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]]) | !style="background:#aacccc; width:14%"|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]]) | ||
!style="background:#aacccc; width:14%"|Tagalog<br>([[:Category:Wiki Tagalog|tl]]) | !style="background:#aacccc; width:14%"|Tagalog<br>([[:Category:Wiki Tagalog|tl]]) | ||
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|<!--tl-->hindi pa handa ang [[wiki]], pero paparating na | |<!--tl-->hindi pa handa ang [[wiki]], pero paparating na | ||
|-valign=top | |-valign=top | ||
!style=background:orange|[[:Category: | !style=background:orange|[[:Category:Needs love|Needs<br>Love]] | ||
|<!--en-->functional but empty, or over-run by [[spam]] | |<!--en-->functional but empty, or over-run by [[spam]] | ||
|<!--tl-->gumagana pero walang laman, o punong-puno ng [[spam]] | |<!--tl-->gumagana pero walang laman, o punong-puno ng [[spam]] | ||
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|<!--tl-->napupuno ng [[spam]], nangangailangan ng ''maraming'' atensyon upang ibalik ito sa isang [[wiki]] na may makabuluhang layunin | |<!--tl-->napupuno ng [[spam]], nangangailangan ng ''maraming'' atensyon upang ibalik ito sa isang [[wiki]] na may makabuluhang layunin | ||
|-valign=top | |-valign=top | ||
!style=background:pink|[[:Category: | !style=background:pink|[[:Category:Goal reached|Goal<br>Reached]] | ||
|<!--en-->archive: there is content, but no activity because the [[wiki]] mission is done | |<!--en-->archive: there is content, but no activity because the [[wiki]] mission is done | ||
|<!--tl-->arkibo: may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad kasi tapos na ang misyon ng [[wiki]] | |<!--tl-->arkibo: may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad kasi tapos na ang misyon ng [[wiki]] | ||
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|<!--tl-->[[wiki|wiking]] nakumpirma ng [[:Category:Dead|patay na]] na nakuha ang dati nitong mga URL sa [[Archive.org]] o [[archive.is]] | |<!--tl-->[[wiki|wiking]] nakumpirma ng [[:Category:Dead|patay na]] na nakuha ang dati nitong mga URL sa [[Archive.org]] o [[archive.is]] | ||
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!style=background:#aacccc|[[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki | !style=background:#aacccc|[[:Category:Wiki|wiki]] [[:Category:Wiki status|status]]<br>name | ||
!style=background:#aacccc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]]) | !style=background:#aacccc|description<br>([[:Category:Wiki English|en]]) | ||
!style=background:#aacccc|deskripsyon<br>([[:Category:Wiki Tagalog|tl]]) | !style=background:#aacccc|deskripsyon<br>([[:Category:Wiki Tagalog|tl]]) |
Latest revision as of 23:04, 31 May 2024
Edit history[edit]
This template was created from the existing table at Category:Wiki status. For its edit history, please see here. --Hoof Hearted 13:58, 2 January 2012 (PST)
- um, wow, nice work!! ~~ MarkDilley
- Thank-you :) Are there any other languages which need to be added, or any other amendments? --Hoof Hearted 03:37, 3 January 2012 (PST)
Dead vs Inactive[edit]
Dead, maybe the action for dead wiki is to make the template inactive, not really needing inactive as a stage... not sure, will ponder, look forward to your thoughts on it. Best, MarkDilley
- Aha - I didn't want to make any drastic changes – but yes, I agree, we have un-necessary duplication. Category:Dead currently has 270 articles, and Category:Inactive currently has 860 articles. I would personally prefer that the Dead category be kept; as Inactive has the potential to be confused with Category:Dormant. In terms of templates, we currently have both 'Template:Wiki dead' and 'Template:Inactive' – 'Wiki dead' renders a page better than 'Inactive' – the least preferred one can be redirected to the other. Which ever way you wish to proceed with the 1000+ affected articles, you'll need to create a bot account to process all the changes :p --Hoof Hearted 12:16, 8 January 2012 (PST)
- It doesnt look like this has been resolved yet. The English descriptions for "dead" and "inactive" are still identical, whereas in other languages they are seemingly differentiated. A better description of inactive appears on the Category:Inactive page: "An Inactive wiki is a wiki that was once Active but can temporarily not be connect to; or, displays an error." (although "connect" should read "connected"). I think "temporarily" is the key word here, although in reality this can probably only be presumed. --thedugganaut (talk) 15:26, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
Wikis that partially shut down for other reasons: "Goal Abandoned"[edit]
What about wikis like Libertarian Wiki that disabled editing for other reasons besides reaching their goal? In that case, the wiki shut down because a couple of users copied the content and created their own forks, and the owner decided his wiki was superfluous. However, he kept it online in case anyone else wanted to do their own fork. Another example would be RationalWikiWikiWiki, which shut down because it was decided that dealing with censorship was more trouble than it was worth. Editing and even viewing by non-logged-in users was disabled (for the sake of appeasing those who objected to its content), but the site was kept online for the sake of allowing users to retrieve their content.
I think these should fall into a "Goal Abandoned" category:
status name |
description (en) |
description (fr) |
Beschreibung (de) |
descripción (es) |
beskrivning (sv) |
詳細 (ja) |
说明 (zh) |
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Goal Abandoned |
archive: there is content, but no activity because the wiki mission has been abandoned | archive: il y a du contenu, mais aucune activité car la mission du wiki a été abandonnée |
Leucosticte (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2012 (PDT)
- Interesting train of thought . . . I quite like this idea, though I'm not sure I like the 'Goal abandoned' name . . . maybe just 'Abandoned'. I'm very much aware of another wiki which was abandoned (due to a threat of legal action over an alleged infringement of a specific British law - the site owner got the jitters, and pulled the plug). Let's see how this idea progresses. Hoof Hearted • talk2HH 13:58, 12 September 2012 (PDT)
- There have also been wikis that were accidentally abandoned because the owner vanished, either because he died, went to jail, or was otherwise unable to get to a computer. Libertapedia's owner was absent for 14 months, during which time one of the sysops took over, kicked off a bunch of users, protected a bunch of pages, and conformed the site to his pro-eugenics views. I think there are actually quite a few abandoned wikis out there, although I'm not sure where one draws the line between a site owner who is simply extremely inattentive and one who is totally gone. A lot of site owners neglect their wikis to some degree or another. Mises Wiki's tech support sucks; reported glitches remain unfixed for months sometimes, but the wiki is part of an otherwise vibrant website.
- By the way — maybe we should just call it "inactive" and move the wikis currently in the inactive category into the "dead" category? That way, the inactive category can actually have some usefulness. Leucosticte (talk) 02:58, 13 September 2012 (PDT)
- I think this 'Abandoned' has a real prospect. We must really wait for out esteemed leader (along with the rest of the admin team) to have their say though.
- Regarding the 'inactive' vs 'dead' - there are problems with both - and I don't think we have reached a satisfactory resolution. Mark prefers to use
{{inactive}}
, but this has (IMVHO) disatrous consquences (it basically strips out all categorisation from the former infobox). And the{{wiki dead}}
template is very untidy. Hoof Hearted • talk2HH 13:47, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
- By the way — maybe we should just call it "inactive" and move the wikis currently in the inactive category into the "dead" category? That way, the inactive category can actually have some usefulness. Leucosticte (talk) 02:58, 13 September 2012 (PDT)
Big gap between dormant and active[edit]
Where does one draw the line between dormant and active? There are some wikis with not much activity other than a continual battle against spam. They keep the spam down but don't accomplish much else. This chart has no middle ground between dormant and active, though; there are a lot of wikis with low, but greater than zero, activity. Leucosticte (talk) 23:43, 13 September 2012 (PDT)
- I would say Category:Needs love. I've been using this for wikis which have little or no 'constructive' editing, but have occasional 'maintenance' edits to delete spam. Does this seem ok to you? Hoof Hearted • talk2HH 13:54, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
- That makes sense, although the description may need to be broadened because "functional but empty, or over-run by spam" doesn't really cover those situations in which the wiki has content, is kept free of spam, but has only a small amount of (but greater than zero) other constructive edits. Leucosticte (talk) 15:59, 14 September 2012 (PDT)
open close[edit]
I think this template would do better as an open close type thing. Does anyone know how to do that? Best, MarkDilley
- Done . . . do you like? --Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin • talk2HH 01:29, 5 December 2012 (PST)
Better German[edit]
- Wiki ist in regelmäßigem Gebrauch und nicht durch Spam überrannt
- Wiki ist in regelmäßigem Gebrauch und nicht durch Spam überlaufen
- Kein oder kaum Inhalt/Aktivität, weil das Wiki erst vor kurzem veröffentlicht wurde
- Kein oder wenig Inhalt, weil das Wiki erst vor kurzem eröffnet wurde
- Das Wiki ist noch nicht fertiggestellt, kommt aber bald
- Das Wiki ist noch nicht fertiggestellt, wird aber bald eröffnet
- technisch nutzbar, aber leer oder überrannt von Spam
- Technisch nutzbar, aber leer oder von Spam überlaufen
- Archiv. Es gibt Inhalte, aber keine Aktivität, weil die Wiki-Mission wurde aufgegeben
- Archiv: Es gibt Inhalte, aber keine Aktivität, weil die Wiki-Mission aufgegeben wurde
Greetings --87.193.142.67 07:36, 24 January 2013 (PST)
- Done (I hope!) - Danke :) Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin • talk2HH 14:02, 29 January 2013 (PST)
- Thanks (Danke) - Until next time. (Bis zum nächsten Mal) ;-) --87.193.142.67 23:01, 31 January 2013 (PST)
"Spam" and "User" are not german, so ...
- Technisch nutzbar, aber leer oder von Spam überlaufen
- Technisch nutzbar, aber leer oder von Werbemüll überlaufen
- Völlig verspammt, bräuchte enormen Einsatz, um es in ein zweckdienliches Wiki zurückzuverwandeln
- Völlig mit Werbung zugemüllt, bräuchte enormen Einsatz, um das Wiki wieder in einen zweckdienlichen Zustand zurückzuversetzen
- Wiki erfordert Usernamen und Passwort zum Lesen; in der Regel nur auf Einladung
- Wiki erfordert Benutzernamen und Passwort zum Lesen; in der Regel nur auf Einladung
--87.193.142.67 23:10, 31 January 2013 (PST)
- Hello, thanks for your comments :) Please see my reply on your talk page - I feel that may be a better way of improving the german language translation in this template. Warmest regards, Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin • talk2HH 02:41, 1 February 2013 (PST)
- The template is not free to edit. Normally I'm only here to update our project related article. Spontanously I translate something here or there. But I'm busy enough with our WikiMANNia-Project. There we have the contra problem, we can not find english speaking editors. :-) See you! --87.193.142.67 06:18, 2 February 2013 (PST)
- Hello, thanks for your comments :) Please see my reply on your talk page - I feel that may be a better way of improving the german language translation in this template. Warmest regards, Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin • talk2HH 02:41, 1 February 2013 (PST)
Tagalog translation[edit]
Wiki status comparison table click on the individual status category links in the coloured left column for a fuller detail of each (scroll down past the table to see the list of wikis in each category, click on [Collapse] at the top right to hide this table) | ||
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wiki status name |
description (en) |
Tagalog (tl) |
Vibrant | more than active with considerable constructive activity | mas marami sa aktibo na may konsiderableng importanteng aktibidad |
Active | wiki in regular use and not overrun by spam | ang wiki ay nasa regular na paggamit at hindi puno ng spam |
New | newly-released visible wiki with no or little content | kakalabas lamang na nakikitang wiki na wala o kakaunti pa lang ang nilalaman |
In preparation |
wiki is not ready yet, but would be soon | hindi pa handa ang wiki, pero paparating na |
Needs Love |
functional but empty, or over-run by spam | gumagana pero walang laman, o punong-puno ng spam |
Dormant | functional with content, but with no activity for more than 1 year | gumagana na may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad ng mas marami sa 1 taon |
Inactive | depreciated category | deprekadong kategorya |
Spammed | seriously over-run by spam, needs lots of attention to get it back to a wiki with a meaningful purpose | napupuno ng spam, nangangailangan ng maraming atensyon upang ibalik ito sa isang wiki na may makabuluhang layunin |
Goal Reached |
archive: there is content, but no activity because the wiki mission is done | arkibo: may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad kasi tapos na ang misyon ng wiki |
Goal Abandoned |
archive: there is content, but no activity because the wiki mission has been abandoned | arkibo: may nilalaman, pero walang aktibidad dahil abandonado na ang misyon ng wiki |
Private | wiki requires username and password to view; typically invitation only | nangangailangan ang wiki ng username at hudyat upang tignan; imbitasyon lang sa heneral |
Cannot connect |
established wiki not available (for some days) | itinatag na wiki na hindi magagamit (para lang sa ilang araw) |
Dead | former wiki that is gone for good (404 error, domain unreachable, replaced by advertising) | dating wiki na wala na para sa maganda (404 eror, hindi maabot na domain, napalitan ng pag-aadvertise) |
Archived | wiki confirmed dead that has its former URLs captured at Archive.org or archive.is | wiking nakumpirma ng patay na na nakuha ang dati nitong mga URL sa Archive.org o archive.is |
wiki status name |
description (en) |
deskripsyon (tl) |
You're welcome! :) 180.191.130.102 02:51, 23 May 2015 (PDT)