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:See also: [[Talk:Wiki Index]] | |||
==Language== | |||
Should the language here be [[:Category:Wiki Multilingual|multilingual]] or [[:Category:Wiki English|english]]? --[[User:Rathbone|Ray]] 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST) | |||
== Publicize! == | ==Publicize!== | ||
It is a shame that WikiIndex has such limited community visibility! Would one of the | It is a shame that [[WikiIndex]] has such limited community visibility! Would one of the [[founder]]s please put articles about WikiIndex in at least [[Wikinfo]] and [[WikiKnowledge]], where I believe they would be welcome? I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles... Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere? (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.) Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find. (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.200.5|69.87.200.5]] 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST) | ||
:Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at [[RecentChangesCamp]] in [[:Category:Portland|Portland]] this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the [http://2007.RecentChangesCamp.org/Wiki_Index session notes]. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. [[User:John Stanton|John]] 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST) | |||
::So much to talk about... Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic / page-view data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing? [[Special:PopularPages]] would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). [[Special:Statistics]] also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data. What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software is so limited in some ways. *** Many websites have not populated their [[Project:Copyrights]] page! You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the [[RecentChangesCamp]] wiki you link to above.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST) | |||
::: | ==Favicon== | ||
Why doesn't this website have a favicon? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.195|69.87.199.195]] 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST) | |||
:I like the way you folks are thinking! I created a favicon File:Preview 16x16.png but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask [[John Stanton]] to add it. Best, [[MarkDilley]] | |||
::The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder. But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] has its own special way of doing things? I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually. I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale. And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available? Maybe just two separate keys? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.203.22|69.87.203.22]] 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST) | |||
==Feedback/Suggestions== | |||
There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how [[WikiIndex]] works. This page is one place. [[WikiIndex talk:Community talk]] is another place. [[WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions]] is another place. [[WikiIndex:Talk pages for wiki people|User talk]] pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: [[Special:ListUsers]]). (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.) --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST) | |||
==Be merciful== | |||
:: | Let us spread mercy, not conflict. Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "'''edited mercilessly'''". It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest. It is no coincidence that [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]] is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage [[editor]]s to treat other's work in such a fashion. Let us rather encourage ourselves to be '''sincere, careful, and considerate'''. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate: | ||
:All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as [[WikiIndex:Fair use|fair use]], with copyrights retained by their owners (see [[WikiIndex:Copyrights]] for details). '''Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed.''' You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION! | |||
::I like this. What is the page to edit for me to change it? [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST) | |||
:::Good question. There are two superficial matches at [[Special:Allmessages]], linking to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2]]. Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.202.225|69.87.202.225]] 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST) | |||
::::It seems I've made the change to [[MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning]] and it works. Please verify. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST) | |||
Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box? --[[Special:Contributions/69.87.199.67|69.87.199.67]] 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST) | |||
==Logo== | |||
Um... the logo on the infobox says "WikiIndex - SwitchWiki" while the logo in the corner of the site says "WikiIndex - IndexWiki". | |||
==Languages== | |||
I think a subpage for each language would be better than an endless growing [[WikiIndex]] entry. BTW: The [[Welcome]] page could be translated too (In this case I'd prefer to have an ordinary page for each language, named in this language and coupled by a navigation template). --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 03:14, 30 March 2009 (EDT) | |||
==Deletion?== | |||
Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document ''other wikis''. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. <b>[[User:Ohnoitsjamie|OhNo<font color=#D47C14>itsJamie</font>]] [[User talk:Ohnoitsjamie|<sup>Talk</sup>]]</b> 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST) | |||
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Language[edit]
Should the language here be multilingual or english? --Ray 11:43, 22 Jan 2006 (EST)
Publicize![edit]
It is a shame that WikiIndex has such limited community visibility! Would one of the founders please put articles about WikiIndex in at least Wikinfo and WikiKnowledge, where I believe they would be welcome? I would do it, but I can't figure out the cross-licensing hassles... Or, please release a description of WikiIndex into the Public Domain, that anyone can freely post anywhere? (Do quite like the WikiIndex History article, by the way.) Took me over a day of searching to stumble on the existence of WI -- Let's try to make it easier for others to find. (I understand, there is really nothing we can do about the low visibility in the wiki-which-must-not-be-named, where it would be most appropriate and useful.) --69.87.200.5 18:07, 4 February 2007 (PST)
- Much discussion about the next step for WikiIndex at RecentChangesCamp in Portland this last weekend (Feb 2-4, 2007) see the session notes. The theme of the session was really how to make it more of a community resource and we welcome any discussion/suggestions along that line. John 07:57, 5 February 2007 (PST)
- So much to talk about... Could someone please work on giving us all access to useful recent traffic / page-view data, so we can see how much general use this wiki is getting, and whether it is increasing? Special:PopularPages would almost be useful, but needs at least one more column for "views in the last 30 days" -- total views ever is just not very useful (and it doesn't even tell us, starting from when). Special:Statistics also suffers from not giving us any recent-time-window data. What we really want to see is some nice weekly/monthly graphs for the last year. *** Its weird that the standard MediaWiki software is so limited in some ways. *** Many websites have not populated their Project:Copyrights page! You should add a direct link for that to your template here for wiki articles. (It has not been populated at the RecentChangesCamp wiki you link to above.) --69.87.199.195 07:32, 6 February 2007 (PST)
Favicon[edit]
Why doesn't this website have a favicon? --69.87.199.195 07:34, 6 February 2007 (PST)
- I like the way you folks are thinking! I created a favicon File:Preview 16x16.png but don't know where to store the .ico - after I can get it stored on the web, then I can ask John Stanton to add it. Best, MarkDilley
- The generic standard is, name it favicon.ico and store it in the html root folder. But each page served can call out a favicon file, I guess, so maybe MediaWiki has its own special way of doing things? I'm afraid your design takes the standard graphic too small -- I could not tell what it was supposed to be, even though I am familiar with the current graphic, until I compared them visually. I think it needs to be "simplified", plainer, more contrast, to work on such a small scale. And maybe the keys should be re-arranged but better use the square area available? Maybe just two separate keys? --69.87.203.22 06:36, 12 February 2007 (PST)
Feedback/Suggestions[edit]
There seems to be no clear system here for how/where to discuss how WikiIndex works. This page is one place. WikiIndex talk:Community talk is another place. WikiIndex:Frequently asked questions is another place. User talk pages is another place, particularly those pages of the core folk (you can get a list of them here: Special:ListUsers). (In some cases, you can discuss the matter right at the appropriate location, but for some matters there is no such location.) --69.87.199.67 06:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)
Be merciful[edit]
Let us spread mercy, not conflict. Let us drop the boilerplate phrase "edited mercilessly". It pretends to be a cute warning to newcomers, but is actually in deadly earnest. It is no coincidence that Wikipedia is awash in a tidal wave of antagonism, building on such a base. Let's not repeat this threat to contributors, nor encourage editors to treat other's work in such a fashion. Let us rather encourage ourselves to be sincere, careful, and considerate. *** Here is a suggestion for improved boilerplate:
- All contributions to WikiIndex are considered to be released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. Logos are displayed here as fair use, with copyrights retained by their owners (see WikiIndex:Copyrights for details). Anything you write here may be changed by others, and redistributed. You are promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. DO NOT SUBMIT COPYRIGHTED WORK WITHOUT PERMISSION!
- I like this. What is the page to edit for me to change it? TedErnst | talk 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
- Good question. There are two superficial matches at Special:Allmessages, linking to MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2. Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --69.87.202.225 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
- It seems I've made the change to MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and it works. Please verify. TedErnst | talk 03:59, 27 February 2007 (PST)
- Good question. There are two superficial matches at Special:Allmessages, linking to MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2. Those two pages are locked from edits, but they don't really match the edit boilerplate, anyway, so the true source seems more deeply hidden in the software. --69.87.202.225 10:27, 17 February 2007 (PST)
- I like this. What is the page to edit for me to change it? TedErnst | talk 10:03, 17 February 2007 (PST)
Also, it would improve the editing process if this boilerplate were moved down below the Summary box and Save button. Or, maybe Summary/Save could be right over the toolbar above the edit box? --69.87.199.67 06:45, 15 February 2007 (PST)
Logo[edit]
Um... the logo on the infobox says "WikiIndex - SwitchWiki" while the logo in the corner of the site says "WikiIndex - IndexWiki".
Languages[edit]
I think a subpage for each language would be better than an endless growing WikiIndex entry. BTW: The Welcome page could be translated too (In this case I'd prefer to have an ordinary page for each language, named in this language and coupled by a navigation template). --Wolf | talk 03:14, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Deletion?[edit]
Why does WikiIndex have a page about itself? I thought that this was a site to document other wikis. I could be mistaken, but just thought I'd bring it up. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:22, 2 February 2017 (PST)
Sortable list of articles[edit]
- for the sake of clarity and readability on included talk pages, please ensure this table is kept positioned at the BOTTOM of any talk page, thanks
↓ subject | aSK | AP (en) |
CZ | CP | CW | ED | EOS | IP | Lib | LP | MP (en) |
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RW | RWW | Unc (en) |
Wikinfo | Wikinfo (criticism) |
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a Storehouse of Knowledge |
here | here | here | here | here | a Storehouse of Knowledge | |||||||||||||||
Anarchopedia | here | here | here | here | here | Anarchopedia | |||||||||||||||
Andrew Schlafly | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Andrew Schlafly | ||||||||||
Citizendium | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Citizendium | |||||||||
Conservapedia | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Conservapedia |
CreationWiki | here | here | here | here | here | CreationWiki | |||||||||||||||
Encyclopedia Dramatica |
here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Encyclopædia Dramatica | |||||||||
Encyclopedia of Stupid |
here | here | here | Encyclopedia of Stupid | |||||||||||||||||
Fred Bauder | here | here | here | here | Fred Bauder | ||||||||||||||||
Illogicopedia | here | here | here | Illogicopedia | |||||||||||||||||
Jimmy Wales | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | satire | here | here | here | here | here | here | Jimmy Wales | |||||
Julian Assange | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Julian Assange | |||||||||||||
Larry Sanger | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Larry Sanger | |||||||||||
Liberapedia | here | here | here | here | here | here | Liberapedia | ||||||||||||||
Libertapedia | (Ltn Wiki) | here | here | here | here | Libertapedia | |||||||||||||||
Metapedia (en) | here | here | here | here | Metapedia (en) | ||||||||||||||||
Philip J. Rayment |
here | here | here | here | Philip J. Rayment | ||||||||||||||||
RationalWiki | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | (RW-talk) | RationalWiki | ||||||||
RationalWikiWiki | here | RationalWikiWiki | |||||||||||||||||||
Schlafly | here | here | here | here | here | here | Schlafly | ||||||||||||||
Uncyclopedia | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Uncyclopedia | |||||||
Wikia | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Wikia | ||||||||||
WikiIndex | here | here | here | here | here | WikiIndex | |||||||||||||||
Wikinfo | here | here | here | here | here | (RD-talk) | Wikinfo | ||||||||||||||
WikiLeaks | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | WikiLeaks | ||||||||
Wikimedia Foundation |
here | ||||||||||||||||||||
Wikipedia (en) | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | here | Wikipedia (en) | ||||
Wikipedia (simple) |
here | here | here | Wikipedia (simple) | |||||||||||||||||
Wikipedia (es) | here | here | Wikipedia (es) | ||||||||||||||||||
Wikitruth | WT founder | here | here | Wikitruth | |||||||||||||||||
↑ subject | aSK (talk) |
AP (temp) (talk) |
CZ (talk) |
CP (talk) |
CW (talk) |
ED (talk) |
EOS (talk) |
IP (talk) |
Lib (talk) |
LP (talk) |
MP (en) (talk) |
New CP (talk) |
RW (talk) |
RWW (talk) |
Unc (en) (talk) |
Wikinfo (talk) |
Wikinfo (criticism) |
WP (en) (talk) |
WP simp eng (talk) |
WP (es) (talk) |
subject ↑ |
- Criticism of Wikipedia – at English Anarchopedia
- RW satire on Andrew Schlafly
- The Great Citizendium Conundrum
- About RationalWikiWikiWiki
- Wikipedia – at Scots Wikipedia
I've put this in the following talk pages: — talk:a Storehouse of Knowledge, talk:Citizendium, talk:Conservapedia, talk:Encyclopedia Dramatica, talk:Encyclopedia Of Stupid, talk:Liberapedia (Wikia), talk:Libertapedia, talk:RationalWiki (en), talk:RationalWikiWiki, talk:WikiLeaks, talk:English Wikipedia, talk:Español Wikipedia, talk:Simple English Wikipedia, talk:Wikinfo, and talk:Wikitruth. —206.130.173.53 13:17, 21 January 2011 (PST)