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==wF asking from others what we do not provide ourselves?==
Since the server move and including update of the software we do not provide the popular-pages function any more, needed to determine the [[wikiFactor]]. This functionality is not any more included in the general [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] software. One needs to install it a add-on. But we do not have this add-on. That looks quite inconsistent to me. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 16:22, 19 April 2016 (PDT)
:Can you provide a link to the add-on?  Then we can ask [[Brandon]] to install it. ~~ [[MarkDilley]] (21 April 2016)
::{{U|Thedugganaut}} had informed us about the exclusion of this functionality on 26 May 2015, a day after it happened. A month later {{Mw|Extension:HitCounters}} became available. I left the info here: [[Talk:WikiFactor#New versions of WikiMedia no longer have popular pages page]] --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:08, 18 August 2016 (PDT)


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==Merging of articles==
== Questions about this website... ==
Please someone merge these two: [[:Category:Body modification]] and possibly take another look in [[:Category:Articles to be merged]]. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:06, 18 August 2016 (PDT)
:Took first step. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]


Greetings,
=={{U|BrandonCsSanders}}==
Seems he is dead. No reaction, even on direct email since one year. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 04:49, 22 August 2016 (PDT)
:So, nobody knows his whereabouts? [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 03:54, 15 September 2016 (PDT)


I am expanding the information on my 'Nationstates' history onto this website though for my rugby league page (PopularFreedom Rugby League) one of your admins noted it was probably best if I put that elsewhere.
==Verification of new accounts==
In the light of such announcements: [http://SteamCommunity.com/id/dswissk ** WARNING !!! I AM CURRENTLY BEING IMPERSONATED BY SEVERAL SCAMMERS !!! **] one should check the validity of new accounts like [[User:DSwissK]].


Do you wish for me to relocate the entire information to another website or just the rugby stuff?
Currently there seems do be no procedure of verification whatsoever. How You want to deal with that? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 03:01, 18 October 2016 (PDT)


Also, what sites might you recommend?  I currently have a geocities website for my nation but I liked the whole wiki idea for it too.
:I verified this account by emailing them from one of their wiki accounts elsewhere. This method is probably not perfect. I don't see verification of accounts to be an issue here. [[MarkDilley]]


Again, sorry if I have not formatted or done anything here correctly, and if you wish me to move my stuff all good, and apologies for me not following any protocol I might have overlooked
::Mark, please be precise! Do not say "elsewhere". What account did You take? [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:54, 18 October 2016 (PDT)


Sincerely, Eagle Scream[[User:99.237.166.143|99.237.166.143]] 17:58, 20 February 2008 (EST)
==[[:Category:Pages for deletion|Pages for deletion]]==
Is any of the [[Sysop|admins]] taking care if this? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 16:43, 18 November 2016 (PST)
:From time to time? On a regular basis? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 20:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)


: ''I just saw your message and replied to you at [[User talk:99.237.166.143]]'' - Best, [[MarkDilley]]
::There are 17 Pages waiting to be processed ... --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 00:49, 19 April 2019 (UTC)


== [[Bulbapedia]] database error ==
==[[Argopaedia]]==
Please [[protect]] that wiki page, not the [[Talk:Argopaedia|talk page]], in order to protect it against erosion of this information. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style="color: orange;">Manorainjan</span>''']] 12:19, 11 December 2016 (PST)
:Manorainjan is inserting and maintaining false information. The website is neither [[:Category:Active|active]] and no longer a wiki. To suggest otherwise is a lie. His [[Edit summary|edit summaries]] are also false. To restore the article to it's long held status is not [[vandalism]]. Someone should pull up Manorainjan on his misleading and nonsensical edit summaries both here and his other edits. [[User:Databoy|Databoy]] ([[User talk:Databoy|talk]]) 12:37, 11 December 2016 (PST)
::'''Removal''' I'm not sure why you are removing things like [[:Category:Founded in 2010]]. We don't just keep info that is presently true but we try to make an overview of the history of the [[Wikisphere]] as well. It's fine to provide links to [[:Category:Archived|archived]] wikis or have categories on pages for wikis which are no longer live. If you know about how and why the site went down, then add it to the article. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 13:39, 11 December 2016 (PST)


I am writing to you about a wiki i have been trying access for a few days, BULBApedia. It seems anytime you try and access the wiki all i get is:
==Suspect mail configuration with mandrillapp.com==
I'm getting phishing warnings from my security software. The notification mails from WikiIndex are stragenly configured. The visible linktext in the mail is like
<nowiki>http://wikiindex.org/Category:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki</nowiki>
but behind this is hidden the link:
<pre style="overflow-x:scroll; overflow-y:hidden">
https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30345700/wikiindex.org?p=eyJzIjoiX2kycEJ4SkRCaDJQVHFubzVCVWRVNXdrMEc0IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM0NTcwMCxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd2lraWluZGV4Lm9yZ1xcXC9DYXRlZ29yeTpBY3RpdmVfYWRtaW5pc3RyYXRvcnNfb2ZfdGhpc193aWtpXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiY2JiNTllMDE3MTcxNGU2NGFiN2NiY2Q1YTYzNmY5NDJcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJlNDNjMDkyMDQ5NjcyMzRiYTIwYjM2M2ZmOTRmODhiNzczZjYwYzFjXCJdfSJ9</pre>


Database error
This is a technique normally used by scammers. Why do we have this in the mails and since when and who introduced that and for whos benefit? --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 12:50, 8 May 2017 (PDT)
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:


    (SQL query hidden)
==How to deal with open proxies and anonymous IPs?==
*How to deal with {{Wp|Open proxy}}s and [[IP editor|anonymous IPs]]?
I suggest to [[block]] all IP ranges of any known open proxies. Again, here we can learn from [[:Category:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]]. We could save us a lot of hassle. Remember, that my "success" in totally enervating [[wiki:DaveVoorhis|Dave Voorhis]] was mainly based on the use of few open proxies and a script kid tool. ;-) --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 03:49, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
:Generating a list of all [[IP address]]es from open proxies would be difficult--do you have such a list that already exists? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 09:15, 3 June 2017 (PDT)


from within function "Article::pageData". MySQL returned error "1033: Incorrect information in file: './themozz_mediawiki/page.frm' (localhost)".
::From the above mentioned wp article: {{Wp|Category:Open proxies blocked on Wikipedia}} --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:19, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
:::You're suggesting that we preemptively block 17,000+ IP addresses who haven't edited here? [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 09:20, 3 June 2017 (PDT)


I was wondering if someone can fix this?
::::Regardless of the number of IPs in question, my opinion is, to block open proxies preemptively is in the long run, safer and less work, than dealing with destructive elements one by one. On the other hand I regard it as necessary to be absolutely transparent about which IPs are blocked here. The list of blocked IPs should be available to everyone and also the sources of the list should be named. Ideally it should be an automated function. I see two possibilities:
::::#To get the IPs from a knowledgeable service en block.
::::#To automatically test any IP - that would like to [[edit]] here or open an account - regarding open proxies and block it right away if it is an open proxy. Not without an error message telling that any kind of editing by use of open proxies is not permitted.
::::{{Mw|Manual:Configuration settings#Proxies}} may com handy here. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 10:13, 3 June 2017 (PDT)


- Lord Ares
:::::I don't have access to the server, so the only option I have is manually blocking 17,000 times. Maybe Brandon, Mark, or Ray can help you or give me access. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 12:13, 3 June 2017 (PDT)


: ''do you mean - http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page ?  if so, the contact information I found is: mukashi@bulbgarden.net - also, you might be able to get some contact information from the people [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AListusers&username=&group=bureaucrat&limit=50 who run this wiki] -  maybe you could build out their page here on [[WikiIndex]]?  Good luck! Best, [[MarkDilley]]
::::::I did not mean to create a lot of manual work for You. Regardless of the possible implications I wanted to bring up the topic of open proxies to '''all''' the [[Sysop|admins]]. I do not know, why You are the only one who responds. All the other admins should also be concerned with [[WikiIndex:Anti-spam measures|spam fighting]] and [[:Category:Security|security]] issues. Maybe You check with Your "fellow" admins if at all they are regularly reading this board? And it is in no way whatsoever, that any of the admins should help '''me'''. I'm not responsible for [[WikiIndex:Spam control policy|spam fighting]] and security issues, IP blocking or anything here at all. It is me who helps '''You''' admins by raising consciousness to the issue of open proxies. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 14:14, 3 June 2017 (PDT)


== make a main page for a wiki ==
[[Special:Contributions/70.71.90.6]] also at https://tools.WMFLabs.org/meta/stalktoy/70.71.90.6 is just another example of what I'm talking about. --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 06:35, 24 June 2017 (PDT)


i've built a wikipedia named Nepwiki and i want it to have a main page for itself.
==Inactivity of administrators==
But i'm having problems in making one.
Hello. What {{U|Manorainjan}} said above made me think that there are many inactive admins on this wiki and I just wanted to tell you who they are. This is just a suggestion, you decide if they have to be demoted or not. :-)
Can you please suggest things i have to do to make a main page.
The majority of them last edited in [[:Category:Account used in 2015|2015]] (which means two years of inactivity).
Thank you
<div style=column-width:12em>
*[[User:Arcane]]
*[[User:Comets]]
*[[User:DavidCary]]
*[[User:Emijrp]]
*[[User:Emufarmers]]
*[[User:Peu]]
*[[User:Spud Gun]]
*[[User:TedErnst]]
*[[User:TeraS]]
*[[User:WikiIndexSysop]]
*[[User:Zhuyifei1999]]</div>
Thanks, --[[Special:Contributions/13Reasons|13Reasons]] ([[User talk:13Reasons|talk]]) 00:00, 4 June 2017 (PDT)


: I think you may be confusing a wiki page here at [[WikiIndex]] and an actual wiki, does that sound right?  If not, please give me a link to  your wiki. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
:In the light of progressive thinking, one should not think of demotion but find out, why there is no activity. Every person will most likely have their own, their individual reasons for that. On the base of that information there could be the possibility of a reactivation.  To demote admins does not increase admin-activity. And to leave the admin status on an inactive user does not incur any kind of cost. [[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 03:09, 4 June 2017 (PDT)


== Conservapedia, RationalWiki etc ==
::''[message removed]


''... The discussion at [[Talk:The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] continues here ...''
:::Sure. And next we give {{u|Rock-O-Jello}} and {{‎u|Amanda}} backend access. Hahahah, what a crazy joke :-D
:::That was a bit to easy to find out from which crew You are ;-)
:::Open another account and try again! --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 07:10, 4 June 2017 (PDT)


There’s an [[edit war]] in progress over [[Conservapedia]], [[RationalWiki]], and [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]].  More can be found on the talk pages of all 3 articles and in the page histories.  I’m biased in favour of RationalWiki.  Conservapedia supporters would like an impartial administrator to intervene.  I will try to summarize objectively.
::::''[message removed]
#'''RationalWiki point of view:'''  Conservapedia deserves the criticism. Conservapedia regularly blocks and deletes dissent on its website.  They want to prevent criticism similarly here.  There are especially large articles criticizing Conservapedia on Wikiindex because there are special problems with Conservapedia.
#'''Conservapedia point of view:'''  RationalWiki are wiki vandals <s>and irresponsible atheists.  We struggle to keep our wiki Christian and fundamentalist and</s> RationalWiki vandals cause us constant problems. [As a RationalWikian I feel this criticism is partly true of a few RationalWikians but not all.  Some RationalWikians vandalize Conservapedia. The vandals don't think that is wrong because they have such a low opinion of Conservapedia. Atheists are on average as responisble as other people.] These RationalWiki users have created a website to criticise Conservapedia, and have basically been given full editorial privilege to edit the CP page on this wiki. Understandably, the CP page now includes a long criticism section Additionally, much of the RationalWiki page is a criticism of Conservapedia (less so now), and there is an entire additional page ([[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]])dedicated to yet more criticisms of Conservapedia. No other wiki has such long prominent criticism and Conservapedia shouldn’t either. Criticism does not seem to be the point of this wiki. If criticism is allowed here, critical sections can spread to other wikis and explode out of control. Some users who appear neutral also feel that criticism shouldn’t be allowed because of this.
I’ve considered things.  It can be a shock when a user doesn’t know that he/she is committing a blockable offense and suddenly is looking at a ban window.  This can happen on many wikis.  Problems with users being blocked for expressing dissenting views aren’t unique to Conservapedia.  To address this I’ve made a new category, [http://www.wikiindex.org/Category:Wikis_with_a_strong_viewpoint Wikis with a strong viewpoint].  To be neutral I’ve included many secular wikis as well as religious wikis in this category.  [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 04:47, 22 November 2008 (EST)
:I've editorialized PC's take on thie issue a bit, since I can better represent the views of Conservapedia than he can.
:If we are going to decide this issue based on whether CP is "bad enough" instead of on whether this wiki is supposed to be a criticism, then I should point out that many of the criticisms are exaggurated, isolated issues, or just plain false. If we are going to have this discussion, then I'll expand my explanation. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:49, 22 November 2008 (EST)


I can understand that folks from Conservapedia don't want the page on [[WikiIndex]] about their wiki to be overrun by criticism - and I can also understand that people want to talk about problems they have with the wiki. Why not take it to a page [[Constructive Criticism of Conservapedia]] and simply make one line / link on the [[Conservapedia]] page pointing to this. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
:::::It is getting funnier by the hour ;-) While I hint You might be part of a crew, which is certainly no insult, unless You think that the other members of that crew are real lowlifes with whom You do not want to be associated in any way. On the other hand You call me mentally ill specifying this as {{Wp|Persecutory delusion}}. Obviously I've hit the mark here ;-) --[[User talk:Manorainjan|'''<span style=color:orange>Manorainjan</span>''']] 09:31, 4 June 2017 (PDT)


:I'd be ok with that, if this wiki wants to open itself up for criticism sections. I think it would make sense to remove all criticism from [[RationalWiki]] (as well as [[Conservapedia]], obviously), and delete [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]]. In my greatest dreams, users who have admitted to and condone further vandalism on CP should not be allowed to edit the constructive criticism page, but seeing as how these are likely the only types of people who are going to want to add to the page anyway, I would have to settle for hoping they can keep their critisism fair and verifiable.
::::::''[message removed]


:(There is a third solution here: just put a blurb in the CP article about RationalWiki, a site mainly devoted to criticising Consrvapedia. If users want to hear these criticism, they can hear it from the horses mouth. Err... I mean they can hear it from the horses mouth... while the horse is actually in it's own stable.) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 02:38, 23 November 2008 (EST)
==Disruptive behavior towards Miraheze by Amanda==
Hello. I am requesting action taken (warning / interaction [[ban]] / [[block]]) about [[User:Amanda]]. They were banned by the [[:Category:Miraheze|Miraheze]] community for disrupting the project. They were given many chances, but failed by using [[sockpuppet]]s. Since they are banned, they continuously [[spam]] our channels as well as other test wiki channels, and wikis. Now they have come here to disrupt the [[Miraheze]] page, as well as my own [[user page]] which I find unacceptable. [[User:Reception123|Reception123]] ([[User talk:Reception123|talk]]) 21:54, 8 August 2017 (PDT)
:Thank you for the heads-up. I have just blocked the troublemaker in question and will take any further remedial action needed to curb their little reign of [[vandal]] terror. [[User:Arcane|Arcane]] ([[User talk:Arcane|talk]]) 05:56, 9 August 2017 (PDT)


::I don't think [[The Conservapedia RationalWiki war]] page does either site any favours here.  I haven't looked around WikiIndex enough to know exactly what its aims & boundaries are, but I'm guessing that it should be relatively neutral about the wikis it covers.  Obviously it should mention that RW is heavily critical of CP, but all those criticisms don't need to be reiterated in full here when readers can go straight to RW to find them.
==[[:Category:Search engine|Search engine optimisation]] for [[WikiIndex]] on [[:Category:Google|Google]]==
Found a very handy, and very important issue regarding [[:Category:Search engine|SEO]] for [[:Category:MediaWiki|MediaWiki]] sites.  Rather than reinventing the wheel, the page on [[MediaWiki.org]] is this:  {{Mw|Manual:generateSitemap.php}}.  Basically, it will generate a specific site map of WikiIndex.org for use by spiders and crawlers.


::I think RW is being misrepresented somewhat.  It isn't specifically a liberal site, nor entirely an anti-Conservapedia site.  It may have started as a reaction to CP, & a lot of content & discussion at RW still focuses on CP, but that isn't its ''raison d'etre'', which is about examining & refuting various extremist & anti-scientific ideas.  The "war on Conservapedia" exists to some extent, especially on the WIGO pages, but I don't agree with carrying it out on third-party sites like here, especially drawing attention to things like vandalism of CP, which isn't endorsed by RW policy ''per se'' or condoned by all members.  Also, contrary to what the "war" article says, we (most of us) aren't generally hostile to CP users who choose to edit on both wikis.
Do we have this included and enabled here on WikiIndex?  And how often is it updated?


::That page really belongs on RW (where it's already been copied) or on RWW, rather than a neutral site.  [[User:79.76.178.216|79.76.178.216]] 10:11, 23 November 2008 (EST) (RW editor '''Weaseloid''')
Thoughts and comments please! --[[User:Hoof Hearted|<big>Sean</big>, <small>''aka'' Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 05:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
:::I'll delete it here. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 11:51, 23 November 2008 (EST)
::::I've deleted The Conservapedia RationalWiki war.  A great deal of work went into writing it. Instead I've added external links to RationalWiki articles on the RationalWiki website. That means "they can hear it from the horses mouth... while the horse is actually in it's own stable." I hope that compromise is acceptable. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 12:17, 23 November 2008 (EST)
 
:::::I'm happy with the current situation, and I think that PC will agree. If she's not, I'm very willing to work within the current structure. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:31, 23 November 2008 (EST)
::::::I feel I've compromised a great deal. It seems Conservapedians want a whitewash of their controversial wiki. I've protected a version of the article that I feel is a compromise. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 02:57, 24 November 2008 (EST)
:::::::I think it’s important that users know they can get themselves blocked for writing things that wouldn’t lead to a block on most wikis. Seeing a ban window <i>unexpectedly</i> can be a shock.  That’s why I left the warning in the compromise. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 09:01, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 
Because I support [http://communitywiki.org/ConsolidateInformation ConsolidateInformation], I am glad that Proxima Centauri moved "The Conservapedia RationalWiki war" from WikiIndex to http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Essay:The_Conservapedia_RationalWiki_War . That seems to be a much better place for it.
I'm also glad that Proxima Centauri made a general category, [[:category: wikis with a strong viewpoint]] that is helpful to Wikiindex readers.
 
I've been summoned to act as an neutral admin[http://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADavidCary&diff=59927&oldid=59646].
But by the time I arrived, it appears that JazzMan, Proxima Centauri, Weaseloid, etc. have already worked out a compromise.
 
Is there nothing for me to do here?
Excellent. Good show, people!
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:43, 24 November 2008 (EST)
 
:Heh. Not so fast. ;-)
 
:In keeping with Mark Dilley's suggestion, maybe a compromise could be reached by putting Gulik/Proxima Centauri's guidelines for editing on Conservapedia on a page after a "/". --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 01:27, 29 November 2008 (EST)
 
== New category suggested:  Hate Groups ==
 
For groups like Metapedia or Conservapedia. --[[User:Gulik|Gulik]] 21:19, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:I don't think "hate groups" would be the proper name for those wikis (although they have strong elements of hate). --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:40, 2 December 2008 (EST)
::What would be a better name?  "Delusional Bigots" isn't very "neutral", no matter how accurate it might be. --[[User:Gulik|Gulik]] 15:27, 4 December 2008 (EST)
 
::: Perhaps a better name would be [[:Category:Wikis with a strong viewpoint]] ? Also: Thank you for telling me about Metapedia. I am creating an article about it now: [[Metapedia]]. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:40, 5 December 2008 (EST)
::::From [[WikiIndex]]'s [[Metapedia]] article: ''Metapedia is an electronic encyclopedia about culture, art, science, philosophy and politics.'' No, that's far from the truth. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:29, 5 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::: Please give me a little hint as to how to make WikiIndex's article more accurate? Or better yet, please edit WikiIndex article directly to make them more accurate? Thank you. --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:59, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 
== What about foreigh language wikis ==
 
What do we do about articles where we can't monitor the content because it's in a foreign language?  We need some kind of disclamer. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 08:01, 3 December 2008 (EST)
 
:Seems like a good idea. What should it say? "The content of this wiki has not been evaluated by a native speaker"? Would we want to attach a date to that statement? Or just let someone look at the article history to figure that out? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:35, 3 December 2008 (EST)
 
:On a related note, should we attempt to wikilink the "language speakers" categories to the "wiki language" categories and vice versa? I'm sure people can figure it out on their own, but maybe it would help prompt non-English speakers to look at articles in the languages they speak. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:51, 3 December 2008 (EST)
 
== some wiki seem to be blocked ==
 
Dear active administrators,
 
I feel that WikiIndex should index every public wiki.
 
A few sections above, Gulik mentioned a (infamous?) wiki not yet indexed at WikiIndex, so I went to [[Community Portal]], punched in the name of the wiki, and hit the "Create a new wiki page" button.
 
After filling in some details and hitting "save", I expected WikiIndex to save and publish my rough draft of information about that wiki.
 
Alas, instead I got this error message:
 
: The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site.
: The following text is what triggered our spam filter: ht tp://www.metapedia.org
 
: The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to an external site.
: The following text is what triggered our spam filter: ht tp://en.metapedia.org
 
(I've added spaces to mangle the above URLs, since otherwise the spam filter blocks my attempt to talk about them).
 
Is this the best place to whine and complain about our local WikiIndex spam filter? [[AntiSpamMeasures]] seems to be about discussing AntiSpam measures on *other* wiki.
 
--[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 11:32, 5 December 2008 (EST)
:Well, it wasn't supposed to stop someone like yourself; it was meant to stop vandals, trolls, and spammers from insert Metpedia links everywhere. Unfortunately, the spam filter can't tell the difference between good and bad editors. --[[User:Michaeldsuarez|Michaeldsuarez]] 12:23, 5 December 2008 (EST)
::Well you could add 'www.metapedia.org' to the [[MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist]] which allows you to add links to that site on any page and if you are worried about people abusing it, which i doubt, then you could temporarily ad it to the white list, create the article then remove it :)..--[[User:Comets|Comets]] 05:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)
 
== Do we need this ==
 
[http://www.wikiindex.org/Image:Lolo12.jpg Do we need this?] [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:05, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
:Don't think so. Kill it with fire. ;) --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
::It's dead. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:42, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
 
== Controversial wikis ==
 
Do we want so much [http://www.wikiindex.org/Special:Contributions/Bob_Birdwatcher Porn]? [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 10:32, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
:Well, WikiIndex is an index for ''all'' wikis, including those about porn. As long as the descriptions do not actually contain adult content, such entries are fine, in my opinion. Though [[Pornopedia|this one]]'s logo is really stretching it. --[[User:Koveras|Koveras]] 12:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
::I've deleted the logo. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:40, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
:::The logo was uploaded a second time and I deleted it again. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 13:34, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Sorry, I didn't realise it was deleted because of a TOS violation. Please keep in mind that this logo is absolutely not explicit, actually you don't even see a nipple in this picture. In Germany we have probably one of the highest standards when it comes to the protection of minors, and Pornopedia is meeting all required criterias by not providing any offensive image material. Please keep also in mind that the mother of all wikis, Wikipedia, has way more actual porn than we have, like: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DoublePenetration.svg this] or [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ejaculation_educational_ani_short.gif that one]. And no offense, but maybe it would be interesting to hear another opinion of a second admin, maybe one who doesn't [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pornopedia&diff=66177&oldid=64894 prefer vandalism to Pornopedia]. Cheers, --[[User:Till Kraemer|Till Kraemer]] 05:03, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
 
You don't see a nipple but it's obvious that the couple are having sex from behind. Some people are tolerant about that but others find it distressing.  It's hard to find a compromise that satisfies everybody from every culture and all parts of the English speaking world.  I feel since the majority wants to include wikis like Pornpedia allowing information about Pornpedia without actual images is fairly reasonable.  I feel [http://www.wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Pornopedia&oldid=66179 this revision] was  unreasonable as users clicking onto that image came straight to the wiki with yet more images that they may not want to see.  A link to a wiki like that should at least be clearly marked so users don't click onto it unless they want to look at porn. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 07:06, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
 
:And sex from behind is banned in some states, right? ;) But I agree, it's hard to find a compromise and I don't want to be the source of any trouble. Regarding the linked image, it happens automatically if you hotlink a logo from another server like [[Wikiporno]], so it seems to be kind of intended and you still can watch the status bar of your browser to see where the link is leading, but I have to admit, it's not the usual wiki way that an image links to anywhere else than the file page. Nevermind... Cheers, --[[User:Till Kraemer|Till Kraemer]] 05:10, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
 
Only users who are really computer savvy will know to look at their browser.  I don't mind too much as I'm used to dealing with grossly pornographic vandalism on many wikis but other users may mind.  I think we're agreed, text only for entries on porn wikis. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 06:11, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
 
:FYI, unless I'm mistaken, you two are both from Germany.
 
:As for the issue of allowing pornographic images, it's important to remember that while Wikipedia isn't censored, this isn't Wikipedia. Personally, I'm in favor of a little self-censorship. I don't think that the logo is absolutely necessary to know what the site is about. But I'd like to hear other opinions as well. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 20:48, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
 
[http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Proxima_Centauri I'm British], [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Proxima_Centauri I'm British]  here too but we're both from Europe. [[User:Proxima Centauri|Proxima Centauri]] 01:37, 27 May 2009 (EDT)
 
:Oops, my mistake! I saw the "Advanced German Speaker" tag and mistook it for a "Native German speaker" tag. Still, I imagine that you would not want to comment on what is banned in American states, as Mr. Kraemer suggests. But perhaps he was referring to nation-states. ;) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 17:18, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

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wF asking from others what we do not provide ourselves?[edit]

Since the server move and including update of the software we do not provide the popular-pages function any more, needed to determine the wikiFactor. This functionality is not any more included in the general MediaWiki software. One needs to install it a add-on. But we do not have this add-on. That looks quite inconsistent to me. --Manorainjan 16:22, 19 April 2016 (PDT)

Can you provide a link to the add-on? Then we can ask Brandon to install it. ~~ MarkDilley (21 April 2016)
Thedugganaut had informed us about the exclusion of this functionality on 26 May 2015, a day after it happened. A month later Extension:HitCounters became available. I left the info here: Talk:WikiFactor#New versions of WikiMedia no longer have popular pages page --Manorainjan 09:08, 18 August 2016 (PDT)

Merging of articles[edit]

Please someone merge these two: Category:Body modification and possibly take another look in Category:Articles to be merged. --Manorainjan 09:06, 18 August 2016 (PDT)

Took first step. ~~ MarkDilley

BrandonCsSanders[edit]

Seems he is dead. No reaction, even on direct email since one year. --Manorainjan 04:49, 22 August 2016 (PDT)

So, nobody knows his whereabouts? Manorainjan 03:54, 15 September 2016 (PDT)

Verification of new accounts[edit]

In the light of such announcements: ** WARNING !!! I AM CURRENTLY BEING IMPERSONATED BY SEVERAL SCAMMERS !!! ** one should check the validity of new accounts like User:DSwissK.

Currently there seems do be no procedure of verification whatsoever. How You want to deal with that? --Manorainjan 03:01, 18 October 2016 (PDT)

I verified this account by emailing them from one of their wiki accounts elsewhere. This method is probably not perfect. I don't see verification of accounts to be an issue here. MarkDilley
Mark, please be precise! Do not say "elsewhere". What account did You take? Manorainjan 06:54, 18 October 2016 (PDT)

Pages for deletion[edit]

Is any of the admins taking care if this? --Manorainjan 16:43, 18 November 2016 (PST)

From time to time? On a regular basis? --Manorainjan 20:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
There are 17 Pages waiting to be processed ... --Manorainjan 00:49, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Argopaedia[edit]

Please protect that wiki page, not the talk page, in order to protect it against erosion of this information. --Manorainjan 12:19, 11 December 2016 (PST)

Manorainjan is inserting and maintaining false information. The website is neither active and no longer a wiki. To suggest otherwise is a lie. His edit summaries are also false. To restore the article to it's long held status is not vandalism. Someone should pull up Manorainjan on his misleading and nonsensical edit summaries both here and his other edits. Databoy (talk) 12:37, 11 December 2016 (PST)
Removal I'm not sure why you are removing things like Category:Founded in 2010. We don't just keep info that is presently true but we try to make an overview of the history of the Wikisphere as well. It's fine to provide links to archived wikis or have categories on pages for wikis which are no longer live. If you know about how and why the site went down, then add it to the article. Koavf (talk) 13:39, 11 December 2016 (PST)

Suspect mail configuration with mandrillapp.com[edit]

I'm getting phishing warnings from my security software. The notification mails from WikiIndex are stragenly configured. The visible linktext in the mail is like 

http://wikiindex.org/Category:Active_administrators_of_this_wiki

but behind this is hidden the link: 

https://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30345700/wikiindex.org?p=eyJzIjoiX2kycEJ4SkRCaDJQVHFubzVCVWRVNXdrMEc0IiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDM0NTcwMCxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvd2lraWluZGV4Lm9yZ1xcXC9DYXRlZ29yeTpBY3RpdmVfYWRtaW5pc3RyYXRvcnNfb2ZfdGhpc193aWtpXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiY2JiNTllMDE3MTcxNGU2NGFiN2NiY2Q1YTYzNmY5NDJcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCJlNDNjMDkyMDQ5NjcyMzRiYTIwYjM2M2ZmOTRmODhiNzczZjYwYzFjXCJdfSJ9

This is a technique normally used by scammers. Why do we have this in the mails and since when and who introduced that and for whos benefit? --Manorainjan 12:50, 8 May 2017 (PDT)

How to deal with open proxies and anonymous IPs?[edit]

I suggest to block all IP ranges of any known open proxies. Again, here we can learn from Wikipedia. We could save us a lot of hassle. Remember, that my "success" in totally enervating Dave Voorhis was mainly based on the use of few open proxies and a script kid tool. ;-) --Manorainjan 03:49, 3 June 2017 (PDT)

Generating a list of all IP addresses from open proxies would be difficult--do you have such a list that already exists? Koavf (talk) 09:15, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
From the above mentioned wp article: Category:Open proxies blocked on Wikipedia --Manorainjan 09:19, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
You're suggesting that we preemptively block 17,000+ IP addresses who haven't edited here? Koavf (talk) 09:20, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
Regardless of the number of IPs in question, my opinion is, to block open proxies preemptively is in the long run, safer and less work, than dealing with destructive elements one by one. On the other hand I regard it as necessary to be absolutely transparent about which IPs are blocked here. The list of blocked IPs should be available to everyone and also the sources of the list should be named. Ideally it should be an automated function. I see two possibilities:
  1. To get the IPs from a knowledgeable service en block.
  2. To automatically test any IP - that would like to edit here or open an account - regarding open proxies and block it right away if it is an open proxy. Not without an error message telling that any kind of editing by use of open proxies is not permitted.
Manual:Configuration settings#Proxies may com handy here. --Manorainjan 10:13, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
I don't have access to the server, so the only option I have is manually blocking 17,000 times. Maybe Brandon, Mark, or Ray can help you or give me access. Koavf (talk) 12:13, 3 June 2017 (PDT)
I did not mean to create a lot of manual work for You. Regardless of the possible implications I wanted to bring up the topic of open proxies to all the admins. I do not know, why You are the only one who responds. All the other admins should also be concerned with spam fighting and security issues. Maybe You check with Your "fellow" admins if at all they are regularly reading this board? And it is in no way whatsoever, that any of the admins should help me. I'm not responsible for spam fighting and security issues, IP blocking or anything here at all. It is me who helps You admins by raising consciousness to the issue of open proxies. --Manorainjan 14:14, 3 June 2017 (PDT)

Special:Contributions/70.71.90.6 also at https://tools.WMFLabs.org/meta/stalktoy/70.71.90.6 is just another example of what I'm talking about. --Manorainjan 06:35, 24 June 2017 (PDT)

Inactivity of administrators[edit]

Hello. What Manorainjan said above made me think that there are many inactive admins on this wiki and I just wanted to tell you who they are. This is just a suggestion, you decide if they have to be demoted or not. :-) The majority of them last edited in 2015 (which means two years of inactivity).

Thanks, --13Reasons (talk) 00:00, 4 June 2017 (PDT)

In the light of progressive thinking, one should not think of demotion but find out, why there is no activity. Every person will most likely have their own, their individual reasons for that. On the base of that information there could be the possibility of a reactivation. To demote admins does not increase admin-activity. And to leave the admin status on an inactive user does not incur any kind of cost. Manorainjan 03:09, 4 June 2017 (PDT)
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Sure. And next we give Rock-O-Jello and Amanda backend access. Hahahah, what a crazy joke :-D
That was a bit to easy to find out from which crew You are ;-)
Open another account and try again! --Manorainjan 07:10, 4 June 2017 (PDT)
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It is getting funnier by the hour ;-) While I hint You might be part of a crew, which is certainly no insult, unless You think that the other members of that crew are real lowlifes with whom You do not want to be associated in any way. On the other hand You call me mentally ill specifying this as Persecutory delusion. Obviously I've hit the mark here ;-) --Manorainjan 09:31, 4 June 2017 (PDT)
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Disruptive behavior towards Miraheze by Amanda[edit]

Hello. I am requesting action taken (warning / interaction ban / block) about User:Amanda. They were banned by the Miraheze community for disrupting the project. They were given many chances, but failed by using sockpuppets. Since they are banned, they continuously spam our channels as well as other test wiki channels, and wikis. Now they have come here to disrupt the Miraheze page, as well as my own user page which I find unacceptable. Reception123 (talk) 21:54, 8 August 2017 (PDT)

Thank you for the heads-up. I have just blocked the troublemaker in question and will take any further remedial action needed to curb their little reign of vandal terror. Arcane (talk) 05:56, 9 August 2017 (PDT)

Search engine optimisation for WikiIndex on Google[edit]

Found a very handy, and very important issue regarding SEO for MediaWiki sites. Rather than reinventing the wheel, the page on MediaWiki.org is this: Manual:generateSitemap.php. Basically, it will generate a specific site map of WikiIndex.org for use by spiders and crawlers.

Do we have this included and enabled here on WikiIndex? And how often is it updated?

Thoughts and comments please! --Sean, aka Hoof Hearted • Admin / 'Crat • talk2HH 05:27, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

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