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: We discussed all of this a long time ago, and if we didn't document well our thinking at the time, I suppose we're left with David's questions. :-) Let me see if I can describe how I see things. At first, we had many different categories the we eventually collapsed down to ByInvitation. Definitely (a) above means LoginToEdit. I'm almost certain that type (c) would be ReadOnly for us, because there's no way to know who's allowed to edit when you come upon a wiki like this. All you can see is that there's no way to edit, no way to login and no way to register or apply for a login. So that's how we've been using ReadOnly. Smiddle's "lockdown" scenario isn't specifically addressed, but that would be ReadOnly as well. We're currently using ByInvitation to mean any wiki where you have to register by some publically available means, and a human has to approve you. If that needs some other name, feel free to propose one. That would be fine with me, if ByInvitation isn't cutting it. We discussed it for a long time, but I see no reason to change if there's a term that's more clear. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:51, 9 December 2006 (EST) | : We discussed all of this a long time ago, and if we didn't document well our thinking at the time, I suppose we're left with David's questions. :-) Let me see if I can describe how I see things. At first, we had many different categories the we eventually collapsed down to ByInvitation. Definitely (a) above means LoginToEdit. I'm almost certain that type (c) would be ReadOnly for us, because there's no way to know who's allowed to edit when you come upon a wiki like this. All you can see is that there's no way to edit, no way to login and no way to register or apply for a login. So that's how we've been using ReadOnly. Smiddle's "lockdown" scenario isn't specifically addressed, but that would be ReadOnly as well. We're currently using ByInvitation to mean any wiki where you have to register by some publically available means, and a human has to approve you. If that needs some other name, feel free to propose one. That would be fine with me, if ByInvitation isn't cutting it. We discussed it for a long time, but I see no reason to change if there's a term that's more clear. [[TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:51, 9 December 2006 (EST) | ||
------- | :: I think it is wrong for us to tell people "you're not welcome at that wiki", when those people actually are welcome at that wiki. So I want to change "ByInvitation" to some other term. | ||
:: (c) A few wiki have a sysop who has made a list of people he knows, and has already invited them to edit (by email or face-to-face), and since he doesn't know me, I'm not welcome at his wiki. (Typically, wiki used for college classes, where the only people invited are the people in that class). | |||
:: The term "ByInvitation" sounds like I need that kind of invitation. | |||
:: I think there is a very big difference between that kind of wiki and another kind of wiki: | |||
:: (b) There are a lot of wiki who don't allow anyone to edit until their "application" has been approved by a real live human being (typically the sysop). However, the front page of the wiki explains in big letters exactly how any random human can get this approval, and the sysop practically always rubber-stamps "approved" on such application, even if the applicant is a total stranger. They would love for me to edit their wiki, even though they've never heard of me before -- the only reason the sysop is doing this "human approval" thing is in hopes of keeping out robotic spammers and/or slowing down human spammers. The most recent example I've seen: [[Synthesizers.com Wiki]]. | |||
:: Can you think of a better term to describe wiki where the sysop *wants* strangers to edit, but you can't actually edit until after some human sets the "allowed to edit" bit on your username? Perhaps "HumanApproved" ? "ApprovedLoginToEdit" ? Is "valid email to edit" is close enough? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 13:31, 16 October 2008 (EDT) | |||
== higher level edit policy == | |||
This scheme is actually not very good. Among other things it doesn't deal with the higher level edit policy questions. Who really cares if all editors are required to sign up for a [[throwaway handle]] under an [[obvious troll name]], or worse, a [[seemingly real name]]? This doesn't matter at all. It matters far more if a [[valid email required]], but not much, if that valid email can be from a throwaway supplier of same like hotmail. | This scheme is actually not very good. Among other things it doesn't deal with the higher level edit policy questions. Who really cares if all editors are required to sign up for a [[throwaway handle]] under an [[obvious troll name]], or worse, a [[seemingly real name]]? This doesn't matter at all. It matters far more if a [[valid email required]], but not much, if that valid email can be from a throwaway supplier of same like hotmail. | ||