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:Hardly ever does anyone get upset. Exceptions are rare, the most recent involved Leucosticte, who knew that the page he created would be controversial. He did not choose to appeal a deletion decision. (He was advised not to, that he is teetering on the edge of a global WMF ban for his general activity, but he could have appealed, in this case, and would not have been sanctioned for appealing, as long as he didn't do something grossly disruptive. His activity here would get him blocked in a flash on just about any WMF wiki. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | :Hardly ever does anyone get upset. Exceptions are rare, the most recent involved Leucosticte, who knew that the page he created would be controversial. He did not choose to appeal a deletion decision. (He was advised not to, that he is teetering on the edge of a global WMF ban for his general activity, but he could have appealed, in this case, and would not have been sanctioned for appealing, as long as he didn't do something grossly disruptive. His activity here would get him blocked in a flash on just about any WMF wiki. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:02, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::I recommend holding deletion discussions on talk pages, and then preserving those talk pages after the page is deleted. On the other hand, [[Project:Articles for deletion/x]] is a cleaner solution. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | ::I recommend holding deletion discussions on talk pages, and then preserving those talk pages after the page is deleted. On the other hand, [[Project:Articles for deletion/x]] is a cleaner solution. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 23:06, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::Leucosticte has Wikipedia in mind, which is an insanely cumbersome solution. Having been a Wikiversity sysop, and having maintained the Wikiversity RfD page, this is what's important: a single page that all active sysops watch, that lists all deletion discussions. That is, in fact, done on Wikipedia, so every deletion discussion requires two page edits (plus the tag on the article or other page), and then another extra edit closing (on the summary page). Wikipedia discussions can frequently get very long, so having separate discussions there could make sense. Discussing on an article talk page can be useful, but ... few will see it. First of all, the process should avoid contentious deletion discussions where possible. Leucosticte has been a radical inclusionist, he knows the arguments against deletion well. We actually get quite close to it on Wikiversity. Deletion discussions are few. Essentially all deletion is either uncontroversial or represents an established or defacto consensus. Process then exists to challenge or change that. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 23:41, 7 January 2015 (UTC) | |||