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== "first edit"? == | == "first edit"? == | ||
Why not call this '''first edit'''? It more correctly explains what the tags describe. That also makes it clear that you're not trying to describe a whole 'mode' or 'policy'. | Why not call this '''first edit'''? It more correctly explains what the tags describe. That also makes it clear that you're not trying to describe a whole 'mode' or 'policy'. | ||
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:: (b) There are a lot of wiki who don't allow anyone to edit until their "application" has been approved by a real live human being (typically the sysop). However, the front page of the wiki explains in big letters exactly how any random human can get this approval, and the sysop practically always rubber-stamps "approved" on such application, even if the applicant is a total stranger. They would love for me to edit their wiki, even though they've never heard of me before -- the only reason the sysop is doing this "human approval" thing is in hopes of keeping out robotic spammers and/or slowing down human spammers. The most recent example I've seen: [[Synthesizers.com Wiki]]. | :: (b) There are a lot of wiki who don't allow anyone to edit until their "application" has been approved by a real live human being (typically the sysop). However, the front page of the wiki explains in big letters exactly how any random human can get this approval, and the sysop practically always rubber-stamps "approved" on such application, even if the applicant is a total stranger. They would love for me to edit their wiki, even though they've never heard of me before -- the only reason the sysop is doing this "human approval" thing is in hopes of keeping out robotic spammers and/or slowing down human spammers. The most recent example I've seen: [[Synthesizers.com Wiki]]. | ||
:: Can you think of a better term to describe wiki where the sysop *wants* strangers to edit, but you can't actually edit until after some human sets the "allowed to edit" bit on your username? Perhaps "HumanApproved" ? "ApprovedLoginToEdit" ? Is "valid email to edit" is close enough? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 13:31, 16 October 2008 (EDT) | :: Can you think of a better term to describe wiki where the sysop *wants* strangers to edit, but you can't actually edit until after some human sets the "allowed to edit" bit on your username? Perhaps "HumanApproved" ? "ApprovedLoginToEdit" ? Is "valid email to edit" is close enough? --[[User:DavidCary|DavidCary]] 13:31, 16 October 2008 (EDT) | ||
== higher level edit policy == | == higher level edit policy == | ||
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Probably this "mode" stuff needs to expand into [[:category:wiki_edit_policy]] (kill the bad use of capital letters please, it isn't English). It's far more important to know if, like [[Consumerium]], the wiki has [[troll-friendly]] policies (not just [[open edit]], but also [[no outing]], [[no witchhunt]], [[no ad hominem revert]], [[no out of process delete]] or [[only spam deleted]], etc.). It says a lot if the administrators go around, as they do on Wikipedia, and try to kill every single link to "[[sysop vandalism]]", etc.. | Probably this "mode" stuff needs to expand into [[:category:wiki_edit_policy]] (kill the bad use of capital letters please, it isn't English). It's far more important to know if, like [[Consumerium]], the wiki has [[troll-friendly]] policies (not just [[open edit]], but also [[no outing]], [[no witchhunt]], [[no ad hominem revert]], [[no out of process delete]] or [[only spam deleted]], etc.). It says a lot if the administrators go around, as they do on Wikipedia, and try to kill every single link to "[[sysop vandalism]]", etc.. | ||
Wiki moderation capability varies very widely, and many wiki administrators are very very stupid. The vast majority of wikis are killed by arbitrary and capricious behaviour that convinces willing editors that their work won't be respected, and no one cares to consult them on important changes to policy. The flipside of wiki is that while you get free open content contributed, the contributors will disappear if you don't cut the right balance between redirecting out-of-scope concerns elsewhere and letting the contributors decide, or if you don't cut the right balance between pleasing the old trolls and helping new ones. | Wiki moderation capability varies very widely, and many wiki administrators are very very stupid. The vast majority of wikis are killed by arbitrary and capricious behaviour that convinces willing editors that their work won't be respected, and no one cares to consult them on important changes to policy. The flipside of wiki is that while you get free open content contributed, the contributors will disappear if you don't cut the right balance between redirecting out-of-scope concerns elsewhere and letting the contributors decide, or if you don't cut the right balance between pleasing the old trolls and helping new ones. '''(Unsigned, 142.177.72.113, 22:33, 4 March 2007)''' | ||
'''(Unsigned, 142.177.72.113, 22:33, 4 March 2007)''' | |||
== PayToEdit? == | == PayToEdit? == | ||
Just noticed OneBuckWiki listed at WikiIndex, looks like there some websites calling themselves wikis where you have to pay before you can edit them. Should these pay-to-edit "wikis" be listed at WikiIndex? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:34, 17 December 2007 (EST) | Just noticed OneBuckWiki listed at WikiIndex, looks like there some websites calling themselves wikis where you have to pay before you can edit them. Should these pay-to-edit "wikis" be listed at WikiIndex? --[[User:EarthFurst|EarthFurst]] 16:34, 17 December 2007 (EST) | ||
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== SaveAfterPreview == | == SaveAfterPreview == | ||
What about a "SaveAfterPreview" category for wikis such as [[MARJORIE-WIKI]]? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:23, 12 March 2010 (EST) | What about a "SaveAfterPreview" category for wikis such as [[MARJORIE-WIKI]]? --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 15:23, 12 March 2010 (EST) | ||
== When it differs by namespace == | == When it differs by namespace == | ||
[http://pineight.com/mw/ Pin Eight] has open editing of talk namespaces, but editing non-talk namespaces requires registration and [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Pin_Eight:Users either e-mail confirmation or having two talk page edits and four days on your account]. How would that edit mode be classified? --[[Special:Contributions/98.226.71.46|98.226.71.46]] 16:18, 31 July 2012 (PDT) | [http://pineight.com/mw/ Pin Eight] has open editing of talk namespaces, but editing non-talk namespaces requires registration and [http://pineight.com/mw/index.php?title=Pin_Eight:Users either e-mail confirmation or having two talk page edits and four days on your account]. How would that edit mode be classified? --[[Special:Contributions/98.226.71.46|98.226.71.46]] 16:18, 31 July 2012 (PDT) | ||