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The third purpose, essays, has not actually resulted in a large number of essays; only something in the low triple digits.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Essays] Likewise, there are not many issues pages.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Issues] Meta is specifically excluded from the list of projects that adhere to a neutral point of view.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view] Although theoretically,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Inclusion_policy] Meta is a place for debate and advocacy concerning controversial policies and practices, behaving in too opinionated of a manner concerning contentious issues has resulted in blocks and bans.
The third purpose, essays, has not actually resulted in a large number of essays; only something in the low triple digits.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Essays] Likewise, there are not many issues pages.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Issues] Meta is specifically excluded from the list of projects that adhere to a neutral point of view.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view] Although theoretically,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Inclusion_policy] Meta is a place for debate and advocacy concerning controversial policies and practices, behaving in too opinionated of a manner concerning contentious issues has resulted in blocks and bans.


Elections of Wikimedia board members,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections] stewards,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections] global sysops,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global_permissions#Requests_for_global_sysop_permissions] etc. occur at Meta-Wiki, and sometimes users of all projects are invited to comment on proposed global policies at Meta. Sometimes users make complaints about what is going on at other projects, if it appears that the sysops of those projects have run amok, and that intervention from stewards may be necessary. This is usually only allowed when the projects are relatively small and it is clear that the sysops are going against the will of the community; otherwise, the argument will be raised the Meta is not an appeals court.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_Meta_is_not]
Elections of Wikimedia board members,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections] stewards,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Stewards/Elections] global sysops,[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global_permissions#Requests_for_global_sysop_permissions] etc. occur at Meta-Wiki, and sometimes users of all projects are invited to comment on proposed global policies at Meta. Sometimes users make complaints about what is going on at other projects, if it appears that the sysops of those projects have run amok, and that intervention from stewards may be necessary. This is usually only allowed when the projects are relatively small and it is clear that the sysops are going against the will of the community; otherwise, the argument will be raised the Meta is not an appeals court.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_Meta_is_not] The Requests for Comment page is a venue for these types of complaints, as well as debate on a wide variety of other matters, such as policy; proposals for what to do with wikis that are in incubation or that are proposed to be brought under the Wikimedia umbrella; and requests for global bans.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment]


Meta is also the location of the global [[spam blacklist]][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist] and the [[interwiki map]].[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map]
Meta is also the location of the global [[spam blacklist]][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Spam_blacklist] and the [[interwiki map]].[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map]


==Culture==
==Culture==
A lot of high-level Wikimedia staff members, stewards, global sysops, etc. frequent meta. Many of them use it as their home base, and ask that users on other projects contact them there. As a result of these users being so readily accessible on-wiki, and rubbing shoulders now and then with other Meta users in the course of carrying out their duties, participating in the global wikigovernance aspects of Meta, and responding to communications, disputes that occur on Meta often quickly get escalated to the highest levels of Wikimedia, with complaints being posted on those users' talk pages, which would not be the case on other wikis. Thus, it is fairly common to see, for example, attempts to drag high ranking Wikimedia legal counsel into conflicts that would, on another wiki, be settled at a much lower level.  
A lot of high-level Wikimedia staff members, stewards, global sysops, etc. frequent meta. Many of them use it as their home base, and ask that users on other projects contact them there. As a result of these users being so readily accessible on-wiki, and rubbing shoulders now and then with other Meta users in the course of carrying out their duties, participating in the global wikigovernance aspects of Meta, and responding to communications, other Meta users tend to become at least superficially acquainted with them. Accordingly, disputes that occur on Meta often quickly get escalated to the highest levels of Wikimedia, with complaints being posted on those users' talk pages, which would not be the case on other wikis. Thus, it is fairly common to see, for example, attempts to drag high ranking Wikimedia legal counsel into conflicts that would, on another wiki, be settled at a much lower level.  


It is fairly easy to get blocked or banned from Meta, often with little explanation or with a vague and/or misleading explanation. Usually the blocks for common vandalism are for lengthier periods than would be the case on Wikipedia. Although there is no Arbitration Committee, the goings-on at Meta are not completely transparent because there is a great deal of [[revision deletion]] that occurs there.
It is fairly easy to get blocked or banned from Meta, often with little explanation or with a vague and/or misleading explanation. Usually the blocks for common vandalism are for lengthier periods than would be the case on Wikipedia. Although there is no Arbitration Committee, the goings-on at Meta are not completely transparent because there is a great deal of [[revision deletion]] that occurs there.


As is the case on MediaWiki.org, Meta sysops typically have free rein to do what they wish, as the community does not exercise much oversight over them. The difference is that there is more likelihood of disputes because of the controversial subject matter (policies, etc.) that are discussed at Meta, so users are more likely to get blocked. The equivalent of an administrators' noticeboard incidents page is "Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat".[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat] There is no exact equivalent of a Requests for Comment page. As is the case on Wikipedia, repeated bickering tends to result in warnings and/or eventual blocks for the participants, rather than an attempt to sort out who is at fault.
As is the case on MediaWiki.org, Meta sysops typically have free rein to do what they wish, as the community does not exercise much oversight over them. The difference is that there is more likelihood of disputes because of the controversial subject matter (policies, etc.) that are discussed at Meta, so users are more likely to get blocked. The equivalent of an administrators' noticeboard incidents page is "Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat".[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat] As is the case on Wikipedia, repeated bickering tends to result in warnings and/or eventual blocks for the participants, rather than an attempt to sort out who is at fault.


There are not many rules governing conduct, so it is left up to sysops to make their own judgments of what is appropriate or inappropriate.  Specifically, there are only seven policies applicable to Meta in particular.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Policies_and_guidelines] Meta has an "anti 'snowball' policy" that prohibits speedy closure of discussions at this project, but in practice sysops can and do close discussions summarily and implement what they think is best sometimes.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Snowball]
There are not many rules governing conduct, so it is left up to sysops to make their own judgments of what is appropriate or inappropriate.  Specifically, there are only seven policies applicable to Meta in particular.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Policies_and_guidelines] Meta has an "anti 'snowball' policy" that prohibits speedy closure of discussions at this project, but in practice sysops can and do close discussions summarily and implement what they think is best sometimes.[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Snowball]
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