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:: Honestly, I feel like I am being tested. Like someone is looking how I will react. I don't like it. --[[User:Redgreenfourties|Redgreenfourties]] ([[User talk:Redgreenfourties|talk]]) 23:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC) | :: Honestly, I feel like I am being tested. Like someone is looking how I will react. I don't like it. --[[User:Redgreenfourties|Redgreenfourties]] ([[User talk:Redgreenfourties|talk]]) 23:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::Hmm, yeah, this has happened a few times, that I've made a few minor corrections to someone's userpage and been told to back off. I guess I'll have to quit doing it, even though it's a wiki. Perhaps it's like walking onto someone's lawn to water a flower that seems to have wilted in the sun. The owner might have wanted the plant to live, but he wants even more for people to not trespass. Anyway, I have nothing to do with these other people you mention. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:20, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | :::Hmm, yeah, this has happened a few times, that I've made a few minor corrections to someone's userpage and been told to back off. I guess I'll have to quit doing it, even though it's a wiki. Perhaps it's like walking onto someone's lawn to water a flower that seems to have wilted in the sun. The owner might have wanted the plant to live, but he wants even more for people to not trespass. Anyway, I have nothing to do with these other people you mention. [[User:Leucosticte|Leucosticte]] ([[User talk:Leucosticte|talk]]) 00:20, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
*(edit conflict with above)Leucosticte is not trying to do you any harm, that's clear to me. The IP editors are trolling you. | |||
*Where are you debating with Leucosticte? | |||
*Now, what has happened on your user page is simple. There are hackers and activists on the internet dedicated to attacking sexual deviants, and the most popular target is "pedophiles." While child sexual abuse is a serious problem, these people are not actually involved with protecting children, they are full of hatred and are vicious (and there is real violence, people have been murdered on claims they were pedophiles. | |||
*Leucosticte is, in fact, a long-time wiki user. He came here with information about wikis, though it was largely about his own (I have not looked at the balance, but it's okay for him to do that). Given the nature of what he hosts on his sites, the appearance that he presents, it is not surprising that he was attacked here. He is being targeted by at least two people, I think, and it may be more. | |||
*One person, who registered an account, is a moderator at RationalWiki. I suspect some connection between her and the IP users, some form of communication between them elsewhere, but I have no proof of that, and it may be coincidence. Her behavior here was like her behavior at RationalWiki, which argues against her connection with the IP. Strange bedfellows. I think she was blocked here partly because of that IP activity, though it is likely not her. | |||
*These activists lie, they libel, and activists like them have declared they are not concerned about collateral damage. They don't mind if a hundred "perverts" go to jail, having committed no crime, if one child is protected. | |||
*Leudosticte is not a pedophile. He doesn't fit the definitions. He has no history of molesting children. He was in federal prison and was on parole for a completely different offense, and was under intense scrutiny. | |||
*He writes about these things primarily as an extreme libertarian. He's definitely provocative, he seems to enjoy the fuss created. It's complicated. | |||
*These IP users are after him. However, WikiIndex appears, to them, to be supporting him. So they are also threatening WikiIndex, and attacking administrators here, and, of course, me as well. And you are a new WikiIndex user, so they could also threaten you. It really isn't about you. | |||
*WikiIndex needs to develop specific policies about both Leucosticte's work here (to avoid unnecessary provocation) and vandalism and trolling as has been coming from the IPs. Without the policy and clear procedure, response will be delayed and quite a mess can be created. I've documented the open proxy vandalism/trolling to support possible wiki responses. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 00:41, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | |||
*The recent events are documented at [[User:Abd/Open proxy events/2014-03]]. The IPs which edited your talk page were, of course, noticed by me. They are using open proxies to conceal their location, at the same time as they accuse others of being cowards for refusing to debate with them. I'm a real person, I actually use the name Abd in daily life, and it's easy to find me. I have two small children (10 and 12), as well as five grown children and six grandchildren. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 00:41, 14 March 2014 (UTC) | |||