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: It seems to be no difference between inactive and dead. I'd suggest to merge "inactive" into "dead". An edit on the wiki template could do this automatically. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 09:36, 7 July 2009 (EDT) | : It seems to be no difference between inactive and dead. I'd suggest to merge "inactive" into "dead". An edit on the wiki template could do this automatically. --[[Wolf Peuker|Wolf]] | <small>[[User talk:Peu|talk]]</small> 09:36, 7 July 2009 (EDT) | ||
::MarkDilley prefers using [[Template:Inactive]] because it removes the listing from every category except "Inactive". (He says so on the [[Template:Wiki dead]] page.) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:28, 28 October 2009 (EDT) | ::MarkDilley prefers using [[Template:Inactive]] because it removes the listing from every category except "Inactive". (He says so on the [[Template:Wiki dead]] page.) --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] 14:28, 28 October 2009 (EDT) | ||
== [[:Category:Private]] is not consistent a member of Wiki Status == | |||
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[[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] posed an interesting question on my talk page, which ought to be thrown open to the wider community; his question quoted as follows: | |||
<blockquote>I think here is a change needed. A wiki could be dormant and private at the same time like [[Bible Wiki (biblewiki.net)]]. Private belongs to another aspect similar to editmode. One has to create the aspect "accessibility" or anything else.<br>{public|private|onInvitation|adult|legitimation|etc.} which defines the scope of onlookers not of editors. Naturally the scope of editmode is narrower than "accessibility" the mode nnames would have quite a cut set. [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 21:01, 4 August 2014 (UTC)</blockquote> | |||
So basically, should [[:Category:Private]] remain a sub-category of [[:Category:Wiki Status]], or should Category:Private be a sub-cat of [[:Category:Wiki Edit Mode]] – or even both? Manorainjan expresses good rationale for a change, and I'm inclined to support him. Another example which lends support for change, is that a wiki can be private, but can also have viggorous activity – which might place it in the [[:Category:Vibrant]] sub-cat of Wiki Status. I think if we do move Category:Private under the Category:Wiki Edit Mode umbrella, then it could even be a sub-cat of [[:Category:ByInvitation]]? | |||
Discussions and opinions needed, please! [[User:Hoof Hearted|Sean, aka <small>Hoof Hearted</small>]] • <sub>[[:Category:Active administrators of this wiki|Admin]] / [[WikiIndex:Bureaucrats|'Crat]]</sub> • <small>[[User talk:Hoof Hearted|talk2HH]]</small> 13:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
We started category private after a conversation about inclusion to [[WikiIndex]] or not. My original vision of this wiki was to be a place where people could find active wikis to work on. [[SwitchWiki]] was that idea's name. Just as I don't like having, structurally, inactive / dead wiki in active wiki categories - I feel that way about private. My 2 cents :-) Best, [[MarkDilley]] | |||
:'''Inactive/private wikis''' There is still value in listing and connecting with private wikis which are active, since a reader here could gain access to it. In fact, it might be helpful to have this place be a funnel for invitations to wikis. I am glad that we have information on dead/dormant wikis as well as active ones because this site helps to document the history of wikis. But Mark is also correct that there should be some scheme for navigating only wikis where someone has a legitimate chance to participate rather than an indefinite list of abandoned and locked down wikis which dominate every category. [[User:Koavf|Koavf]] ([[User talk:Koavf|talk]]) 15:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
===call for clarity=== | |||
There are two questions to be dealt with: | |||
# Is the property 'Private' really fitting in the same category with {Active, Dormant, Dead, NeedsLove, etc.}? | |||
# How should dead or private Wikis be listed; shall they 'disturb'/mix with the listings of active/accessible Wikis? | |||
I see the discussion as mixed up on both topics which does not allow for solution. therefore I suggest to solve question 1 first and then try for question 2 which in my opinion calls for another kind of Wiki-Status possibly called [[:Category:Wiki Accessibility]] [[User:Manorainjan|Manorainjan]] ([[User talk:Manorainjan|talk]]) 16:23, 12 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:My inclination is that the designation "Private" has more to do with a wiki's EditMode than it does with a wiki's Status. I don't think a new "Accessibility" class of categories is needed. That's pretty much what "EditMode" is already. I am in favor is making "Private" one of the options for "EditMode". I suppose the clarification which would need to be made the difference between "ByInvitation" and "Private." To my mind, the former indicates that you could ostensibly obtain an invitation whereas the latter would be reserved for those which are closed to new participants. --[[User:MarvelZuvembie|MarvelZuvembie]] ([[User talk:MarvelZuvembie|talk]]) 23:34, 13 August 2014 (UTC) | |||